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47. Oh yeah, I was seriously not for Hillary in 2008.. but,

Sat May 30, 2015, 04:34 AM

May 2015

like I said.. among other things.. she's worked with President for 4 years, and that's got to have been good experience even if they're not exactly on the same page with FP.

I'm leaning towards Hillary now.. lots of reasons. She's learned a lot since then and she's surrounding herself with many good people(see, right there she's learned.. no Mark Penn-"mr fix it..didn't" in sight.)..

one thing that has turned me off Bernie, fair or not, is a lot of his supporters on DU have treated President Obama like shite for years.. and their arguments hold no persuasion. I've seen too much disingenuous pot shots aimed Obama.

Whomever wins the Dem Nom will not be running from his accomplishments.. they'll want that Obama coalition and the Prez to campaign with them and for them.

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Sounds good, when you abstract from actual issues! delrem May 2015 #1

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Yes. delrem May 2015 #36

Then you accept the premise rock May 2015 #73

Heheh - you're just being ridiculous for the hell of it, right? delrem May 2015 #75

Heheh yourself rock May 2015 #78

I've spent more time on you. Bye now. delrem May 2015 #79

Wow. MohRokTah May 2015 #72

She checks a lot of boxes, but let's not go crazy. Best EVER? hughee99 May 2015 #3

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My argument is that it's easily recognizable hyperbole hughee99 May 2015 #89

Voting for Iraq war disqualifies her though. Too bad. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #4

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Yeah, Cheese, cheer up. She won't be the nominee anyway is my guess. My guess silvershadow May 2015 #14

Hmmm... She starts out with huge advantages Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #17

Yep, my husband and I decided tonight. mimi85 May 2015 #33

Your guess? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #67

I am sorry but this puff piece might not be something she really wants. TM99 May 2015 #5

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Which is just a really positive non-sequitor TM99 May 2015 #9

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not according to the poll DesertFlower May 2015 #13

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not really - I heard on morning joe yesterday that his entry would really shake things DrDan May 2015 #77

Aloha DesertFlower.. I found this one, too.. I think this will change and get better for Hillary Cha May 2015 #31

And your point is??? MattSh May 2015 #34

Why wouldn't she? ucrdem May 2015 #11

K'n'R. She's earned her stripes. ucrdem May 2015 #10

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and what would you say are her most significant accomplishments cali May 2015 #15

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That first article considers Libya and Syria as success stories... MattSh May 2015 #39

horrifying and sickening cali May 2015 #64

do you think Libya is her number one success? cali May 2015 #63

At the time, she certainly seemed to be enjoying herself. leveymg May 2015 #71

Best EVER. By what metric? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #18

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Yeah... that's what I would have said as well. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #22

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Especially if you want to continue things as they are. Couldn't be better for that. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #19

Things are going pretty well. ucrdem May 2015 #24

I really think she would be the Unknown Beatle May 2015 #25

She's definitely experienced. And she's unquestionably smart. And she's tough & knows how DC works. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #27

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we've got a year until the convention. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #30

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And I am totally open to being won, or wooed. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #52

wasn't nixon the most qualified before her? captainarizona May 2015 #29

Just wait until Fox "News" gets started on her... SoapBox May 2015 #35

The problem is, what FOX might "have on her" might not be popular with Dems. delrem May 2015 #38

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Whatever you think ugly is, it will be 10x worse with Hillary. Exilednight May 2015 #94

And, thanks to President Barack Obama she's had those 4 years as SOS.. that's got to Cha May 2015 #37

+100 ucrdem May 2015 #40

Oh yeah, I was seriously not for Hillary in 2008.. but, Cha May 2015 #47

Absolutamente. ucrdem May 2015 #48

Oh, they're very demanding.. phiift! Can Hillary Cha May 2015 #50

LOL, good point. ucrdem May 2015 #60

I read that somewhere(forget where) Recently.. but, thought it made sense. Cha May 2015 #62

I'm not happy with what she did with "Friends of Libya" and "Friends of Syria". delrem May 2015 #41

Hillary scares the republicans, too. She doesn't scare me. Cha May 2015 #51

I know. delrem May 2015 #56

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A little food for thought: why did Obama take away the responsibility of Iraq and Afghanistan and Exilednight May 2015 #95

She has my vote. NaturalHigh May 2015 #44

She definitely has my support. The country needs BreakfastClub May 2015 #45

Feminism and war don't go together. Ken Burch May 2015 #46

Who says she's going to war? ucrdem May 2015 #49

Her track record. Scuba May 2015 #53

As president? ucrdem May 2015 #54

No, as a US Senator. Remember when millions across the globe knew going to war in Iraq was wrong? Scuba May 2015 #57

She isn't running for senator. ucrdem May 2015 #58

Good point, u. Cha May 2015 #59

Her track record on military adventurism is dismal, disturbing and should be a disqualifier. Scuba May 2015 #61

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #65

She's going to war. Enthusiast May 2015 #98

She a regular candidate drone, with ambiguous reasoning, and all those connections orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #55

LOL DiverDave May 2015 #66

Mrs. Clinton is a good candidate. RoccoR5955 May 2015 #68

Our best president fadedrose May 2015 #69

Yes she is.. by far, especially in comparison to anyone else running. DCBob May 2015 #70

I've seen this opinion floated before... ms liberty May 2015 #74

Shhhh.......don't ruin their fun. nt Logical May 2015 #76

But he will bring balance to the force Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #81

I do not know what you are saying here... ms liberty May 2015 #86

I counted two absolutes Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #90

Thanks - I didn't get the Sith reference... ms liberty May 2015 #91

IMO the woman is as phony as three dollar bill, an unqualified megalomaniac bowens43 May 2015 #80

John Kerry is/was much more qualified and has a similar resume. Ouch. nt tridim May 2015 #82

Yes, very well qualified riversedge May 2015 #83

"Qualified" to carry water for... 99Forever May 2015 #84

KMOD, I notice your post was completely positive rock May 2015 #85

Oh She Is Qualified colsohlibgal May 2015 #87

She certainy has the notches in her belt (1,000,000+ dead KingCharlemagne May 2015 #88

Did Al Gore get erased from history and I missed it? bunnies May 2015 #92

True as long as one can't remember as far back as say Joe Biden. TheKentuckian May 2015 #93

What other candidate has a twice elected spouse who was president? McCamy Taylor May 2015 #96

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