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TheKentuckian

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16. You can't have one without the other which is why we haven't seen an economically liberal but

Sat May 30, 2015, 04:50 PM

May 2015

socially conservative in the wild in decades and why "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" is a scam of a right wing ideology, essentially a right libertarian meant to assimilate our party as yet another tool of corporate interests.

This entire hubbub is the screeching response to "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" being pushed back on and rejected by sensible and decent people.

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Poll on economic justice and social justice [View all] gollygee May 2015 OP

Glad you posted this. bravenak May 2015 #1

I'm trying to get a feel for where people are gollygee May 2015 #2

Refining what we're about and who is aligned with who orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #6

I keep seeing people arguing who want exactly the same thing. bravenak May 2015 #7

It does and your right . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #11

One is hinged on the other . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #3

I agree bravenak May 2015 #8

What he said ^^ Wounded Bear May 2015 #15

Right there with ya. PETRUS May 2015 #4

Yep bravenak May 2015 #9

i think the talking past is purposeful because of agenda. and privilege. and entitlement. seabeyond May 2015 #5

and i am not thrilled with the choices. that i can necessarily make a choice. the thing. we are seabeyond May 2015 #12

I don't know the difference between social vs. economic justice Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #10

they do overlap. this definition really helped me and i go back and check it out. seabeyond May 2015 #13

I'll try to give an example gollygee May 2015 #14

And if you are poor and a person of color odds cali May 2015 #18

yeah but there's social justice involved there too gollygee May 2015 #19

absolutely. they are deeply entwined. one is no more important cali May 2015 #21

That's true as far as as LGBT rights go gollygee May 2015 #23

Very true, but you can't look at somebody and necessarilly see if someone is gay, but you can't Exilednight May 2015 #28

Neither is functional without the other. Money doesn't solve everything but always beats having none TheKentuckian May 2015 #20

exactly cali May 2015 #24

You can't have one without the other which is why we haven't seen an economically liberal but TheKentuckian May 2015 #16

I know someone who calls himself that gollygee May 2015 #17

and he is lying even to himself unless he is using the global "liberal" which means lazzie fare TheKentuckian May 2015 #22

kick to see gollygee May 2015 #25

i wish there could be more of an understanding without the hostility and animosity. nt seabeyond May 2015 #26

I think most people here are saying the same thing gollygee May 2015 #27

i do not think i agree with you. but it does not mean that i need to have a problem with anyone seabeyond May 2015 #29

There might very well be some gollygee May 2015 #30

Kind of baffled why this is even an issue deutsey May 2015 #31

I am too gollygee May 2015 #32

Yeah, I know deutsey May 2015 #33

They don't though which is why the party has embraced "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" TheKentuckian May 2015 #36

Now you're making assumptions gollygee May 2015 #37

Here is not the party at large and where do you get off implying I don't argue for social justice? TheKentuckian May 2015 #38

I'm not trying to imply that gollygee May 2015 #39

Those that are Of Third Way persuasion believe that Bernie is Exilednight May 2015 #34

They are not different things Man from Pickens May 2015 #35