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laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
100. Interesting post.
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:13 PM
May 2012

I agree with most things you have said, especially the first paragraph. I'd take issue with GWB not being a sociopath - I think he definitely is one - I have no doubt he lacks a conscience and his patterns of behavior go back to adolescence (a must to be diagnosed with AsPD). Sociopaths ('dumb' ones) often turn to substance abuse because it fills the void they feel from not being concerned with other people's feelings/lives. 'Smarter' sociopaths, you are correct, love power because it enables them to manipulate everyone around them.

Robert Hare, an expert on psychopaths (he uses the term sociopath interchangeably with psychopath), says that most of them get a kick out of causing turmoil and just watching it play out. The power/fortune/fame is just a tool that they use.

I agree Palin is more narcissistic than anything. I DO think Gingrich is also a sociopath. He has the same easy way of blurting out complete lies as totally believeable statements, without flinching or stuttering (or pausing to think), as my ex-husband has (who checks off every single item on the DSM-IV list for AsPD) - in addition to all the other things. That's one thing that weirds me out about Romney - he stutters an awful lot - I wonder if it's because he's been coached too much and wants this so bad he's petrified of making a mistake, or if deep down he's worried soon he'll be found out for what he really is. Most sociopaths don't like to be 'found out' because it wrecks their games. People don't want to play the 'life' game with sociopaths. It's part of the reason why the good ones get so adept at appearing to be normal/caring people.

I disagree about Santorum. I think he's just plain brainwashed by religion, as Michelle Bachman is. I honestly think the disdain Santorum has for Romney has to do with religion and Romney's perceived 'moderate' status.

Anyhow, thanks for the intersting conversation.

sociopathic behavior frequently shows up first with treatment of animals phantom power May 2012 #1
Absolutely - and he is a sociopath adigal May 2012 #18
Classic serial killer development. His actions in business were a form of murder, too. freshwest May 2012 #50
Remember young W liked to torture frogs Capn Sunshine May 2012 #59
I'm surprised that incident didn't turn off most rethugs. But I guess Auntie Bush May 2012 #66
The MSM could have cared less about that eridani May 2012 #81
his brain lacks the empathy module magical thyme May 2012 #2
Which would tend to endear him with the Right IDemo May 2012 #14
My thoughts exactly goclark May 2012 #93
and narcissism, arrogance and entitlement spooky3 May 2012 #3
"These incidents are not mutually exclusive, HCE SuiGeneris May 2012 #4
not only that barbtries May 2012 #5
I can see it in his eyes tridim May 2012 #6
Bully for you, Mr. Romney. Bully for you! longship May 2012 #7
There is no doubt a pattern of assholeness here uponit7771 May 2012 #8
I agree with every word of it except the use of psychopath. zeemike May 2012 #9
Sociopath Aerows May 2012 #10
I don't think he's either, and I'm disturbed by how the word sociopath is thrown around on DU. harmonicon May 2012 #16
I remember a discussion I heard on the radio of a doctor adigal May 2012 #21
Yep. laundry_queen May 2012 #54
The sociopath MBAs have ruined this country. n/t AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #56
The main problem being laundry_queen May 2012 #65
QED: authority should always be questioned. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #68
Absolutely laundry_queen May 2012 #74
Sociopathy kurt_cagle May 2012 #92
Sociopathy diagnostics: habitual lying and lack of empathy CitizenK9 May 2012 #98
Interesting post. laundry_queen May 2012 #100
I agree with you. My boss was a sociopath, cared nothing for his employees, crunch60 May 2012 #73
Please explain the family dog on the roof of the car for a 12-hour drive + the relentless coalition_unwilling May 2012 #30
Here's the thing... harmonicon May 2012 #77
I'd simply point you to comments by fellow DUer DevonRex who coalition_unwilling May 2012 #88
Romney Aerows May 2012 #34
I'm not defending him. harmonicon May 2012 #78
It isn't giving him a pass Aerows May 2012 #102
"a made up religion" <--- HAHAHAHA!!! harmonicon May 2012 #104
Well you are right I am no doctor and cannot label someone zeemike May 2012 #46
I said the same to another poster re: the dog. harmonicon May 2012 #79
I think your point about what class division does to society is very interesting renate May 2012 #47
Agreed 100% Auntie Bush May 2012 #67
How could he empathize with employees of those companies? harmonicon May 2012 #80
+100% Myrina May 2012 #84
No. You need to look up the DMV definitions. DevonRex May 2012 #20
Yep Aerows May 2012 #35
That's what let him put the damned dog on the roof. DevonRex May 2012 #38
Probably Aerows May 2012 #41
You've got it backwards tcaudilllg May 2012 #85
That is what I was trying to say zeemike May 2012 #87
Perhaps kurt_cagle May 2012 #94
Excellent analysis. Hope to see more of your writing. Your final paragraph coalition_unwilling May 2012 #97
Thank you for saying so well what I've been trying to say this morning!!! hamsterjill May 2012 #11
Fits right in with his work at Bain. emulatorloo May 2012 #12
Yeah, a lot of.. girl gone mad May 2012 #26
EXACTLY!!!! Too many people don't understand how important BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #13
They are going to try very hard to bury this, to blow it off as "30 years ago". MH1 May 2012 #15
join "Dogs Against Romney" on Facebook shireen May 2012 #17
Just like he enjoys firing people and closing down factories. DevonRex May 2012 #19
Exactly. He was obviously born without the "empathy" gene. It happens. Entitlement explains..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #23
Yep. DevonRex May 2012 #29
Remember, this is the man who would be entrusted to appt people to the bench. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #31
That's what makes us human. DevonRex May 2012 #33
Ann Romney said that? extreme jealousy is common harbinger of abuse zazen May 2012 #89
Yes. DevonRex May 2012 #99
Very well stated! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #22
Like his incredible proposition that bank foreclosures should just run their course aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #24
Spot on! and it seems all solid Repukes & Teabags share this personality profile! n/t hue May 2012 #25
Dog on the Roof and 5 young boys had to hold their pee grantcart May 2012 #27
Evil is as evil does Aerows May 2012 #37
This story (and the bullying incident) confirms my thought that he is a control freak and... Zookeeper May 2012 #76
Repukes ALL suffer from various personality disorders just1voice May 2012 #28
Mitt Romney: Sick Fuck Blue Owl May 2012 #32
there is something really off about that guy. Whisp May 2012 #36
Agreed Aerows May 2012 #39
I don't agree. Mitt didn't destroy a lot of brain cells with booze and coke eridani May 2012 #82
add the "i like to Fire People" to that list JI7 May 2012 #40
I always thought it was a big deal. Chorophyll May 2012 #42
THIS is why his interactions with people have always been so OFF. OMG OMG OMG DevonRex May 2012 #43
Precisely Aerows May 2012 #44
Maybe that's why it's been said that all the other rethug candidates hated him. Auntie Bush May 2012 #69
I'm convinced now that anyone DevonRex May 2012 #70
Sometimes I actually feel sorry for Ann Romney. n/t Auntie Bush May 2012 #71
Mitt Romney = Patrick Bateman Yavin4 May 2012 #45
Exactly!!! K&R n/t DeSwiss May 2012 #48
And this cruelty translates itself into firing people and moving jobs off shore. He did not care jwirr May 2012 #49
Beaver Cleaver outside, hifiguy May 2012 #51
Yes, plus I've seen some posts saying that they also did some things in their youth tanyev May 2012 #52
He's maybe even crazier than Bush. He's dangerous. nt Zorra May 2012 #53
thank you connecting the dots!!!!!! dembotoz May 2012 #55
Ditto!! how can we make the meme "sociopath" stick! This is important! nt nanabugg May 2012 #57
That, and his apology was conditional nytemare May 2012 #58
I liked the term "casually vicious" as applied to Rmoney CanonRay May 2012 #60
Our system as currently designed actually benefits sociopaths RufusTFirefly May 2012 #61
BINGO! fascisthunter May 2012 #63
he's a sociopath fascisthunter May 2012 #62
He seems to be some sort of sociopath to me. mwb970 May 2012 #64
There is a saying about character being revealed in how we treat DirkGently May 2012 #72
I wish I could rec your post and hope you will consider fashioning it into an OP. You've coalition_unwilling May 2012 #96
It was always a big deal to me. Lugnut May 2012 #75
Add to that onlyadream May 2012 #83
I've been saying this about the man since I heard the dog story combine it NotThisTime May 2012 #86
"a fucking psychopath hiding behind a "Gee Willikers!" personality" varelse May 2012 #90
The man's character is written in how he treats the MOST annabanana May 2012 #91
In all the interviews colorado_ufo May 2012 #95
My theory is that Rmoney is actually a Cylon. backscatter712 May 2012 #101
He is the living definition of cruel and unusual. lonestarnot May 2012 #103
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