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H2O Man

(79,206 posts)
39. Depends who you ask.
Sun May 31, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

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I suspect that everyone experiences DU in their own way -- and that includes their understanding of what the site is for. As an example, a related question might be: why did the fellows start DU? Opinions here vary: some think it was some young guys, connected to things political, that are “computer geeks,” and wanted to cash in; others believe they were inspired by the theft of the 2000 election to try to wake the grass roots up; some think they were operatives, hoping to harness the potential of the liberal-progressive community, for corporates’ sake; and others may never give it as much as a split-second’s thought.

Why, pray tell, have people joined here? There’s still lots of old-timers here. Something good has kept them. Others have left in disappointment. Others become meteors streaking through the discussions. Still others have become falling walt stars.

During presidential primary seasons, as you well know, this place becomes curious. Not curious enough, in many individual cases; they come to convert, or destroy, others. A rigid mindset is displayed, as if there is only one correct opinion on every question. Others are equally focused on supporting a candidate, and provide thoughtful, insightful analysis on both what they think is possible today, and/or what they hope to see tomorrow.

In my opinion -- for whatever it may be worth -- DU can and should be used in extremely positive ways. One, as your OP notes, is electing Democrats to public office. That’s an important goal, especially when we consider it in the generic sense of “Democrat versus republican.” Because it can be more complicated in non-generic, real life contests, the rules are such that in general elections, one cannot advocate for the Democrat’s defeat. That seems fair to me.

I’m not saying that because I am a life-time registered Democrat, I have voted the party line in every election over the decades. In many instances, local elections do not feature that generic Democrat vs. republican. In recent years, the number of registered independents has become far greater than registered Democrats. This includes the region’s Democratic Left. But the majority are registered republicans. Even the semi-splinter “tea party” continues to register as republicans.

Now, of course, to have Democrats win in local elections, there are two options: [1] to appeal to moderate republicans, and hope for their support; or [2] coordinate with the Democratic Left, and work to elect the best candidate possible. For a long time, the local party leadership has opted for #1, with limited success. In recent years, there’s been more emphasis on #2, with far greater success.

And that’s the type of thing that I would hope that there will be more discussions about. Again, it is trying to win elections -- but it is more. It’s discussing options that members of the Democratic Party have, on so many levels, regarding who they really want to work with. What other groups can we coordinate with? We are at a point in time where people need to master change, if our country is ever to regain its status as a constitutional democracy.

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Can you name one? trumad May 2015 #1
Lyndon Larouche Octafish May 2015 #11
Well, yes HassleCat May 2015 #2
i noticed the hypocrisy of that thread. the demand to allow on the one hand, and the demand to be seabeyond May 2015 #3
I think that perception is held by a huge majority here. kentuck May 2015 #6
you think majority is wanting a dem? at all cost? over losing a race to the repugs? i hope so. or seabeyond May 2015 #8
Like what? Adrahil May 2015 #25
I'm pretty sure that's the actual, stated objective. Recursion May 2015 #4
It is one of five stated goals. kentuck May 2015 #7
True. This site was a very early social network Recursion May 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck May 2015 #10
As of now there are only two members of the Democratic party running... Peacetrain May 2015 #5
I guess it depends on how you read the TOS. The first 4 paragraphs: Cerridwen May 2015 #12
Thank you Cerridwen Hekate May 2015 #14
You're welcome. Seemed pretty straight-forward. Cerridwen May 2015 #18
Nobody is saying "don't vote for Democrats"... kentuck May 2015 #15
You posted in your OP: Cerridwen May 2015 #17
Sorry. kentuck May 2015 #19
No problem. How many browser tabs with DU do you have open Cerridwen May 2015 #20
Usually only one... kentuck May 2015 #21
Well...if that's the case we only need to check in and post in election years. canoeist52 May 2015 #13
There has always been LWolf May 2015 #16
You can vote for who you like. hrmjustin May 2015 #22
I think we are in agreement? kentuck May 2015 #23
If she were running as an independent against a Democrat? Adrahil May 2015 #26
No matter how sorry the Democrat might be? kentuck May 2015 #31
Well.... Adrahil May 2015 #34
Do you think Bernie Sanders is not an authentic Democrat? kentuck May 2015 #36
I assume you are asking if she ran as an independent after losing the nomination. hrmjustin May 2015 #30
Which is kinda like buying a car based only on the hood ornament. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #24
Your Senators are Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell and your complaint with others is that they Bluenorthwest May 2015 #27
The TOS is pretty explicit on this. MADem May 2015 #28
I disagree olddots May 2015 #29
Well, you may be right about that? kentuck May 2015 #32
I agree. DU should support Democrats, not Republican Lites. Nt HooptieWagon May 2015 #33
"electing Democrats is the objective of DU..." k. so lets get to work. i am having a blast seabeyond May 2015 #35
The Democratic Party is stronger when we listen to the people... kentuck May 2015 #37
i think three such different styles, what they bring to the table, smart and competent, confident. seabeyond May 2015 #38
Depends who you ask. H2O Man May 2015 #39
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