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cheapdate

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145. We'll just have to disagree.

Sun May 31, 2015, 08:59 PM

May 2015

No legislation gets through this congress unless it's a must-pass appropriation, or some symbolic nonsense, and no elected member of congress can boast of any grand legislative accomplishments since 2010.

Bernie Sanders is an exceptionally hard working public servant, and O'Malley's careless and dismissive jibe was unwarranted and unnecessary. I don't know O'Malley, but I have less respect for him because of his loose talk, and I'll have even less if he continues on this tack as the campaign draws on.

For all of O'Malley's easy talk about "replacing the board of directors" at US financial institutions, he'll hit the exact, same brick wall that Sanders, Obama, and anyone else in Washington has experienced for the past several years -- as long as the GOP controls either chamber of congress.

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In case you missed it in his speech: O'Malley took the gloves off and hit Hillary where it hurts [View all] bigtree May 2015 OP

He should have left the gloves on lest he end up like the poor fella rolling around on the canvass. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #1

Way to address the substance of the issue! RufusTFirefly May 2015 #6

Iron Mike addressed Trevor Berbick's issues within six or so minutes. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16

"St. Hillary"? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #155

LOL, I am not sure any of your posts are really helping Hillary. nt Logical May 2015 #7

LOL, If i thought my advocacy For St. Hillary here is of any moment I would put a cap im my own ear. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #9

he's not going to pull any punches in this primary bigtree May 2015 #10

Bookmark this post. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #12

oh never underestimate her talent at being her own cali May 2015 #23

Exactly JonLP24 Jun 2015 #173

Hillary lost a 30 point lead in 2008! Don't sell her short! nt Logical May 2015 #39

Did they repeal the 22nd Amendment? /NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #42

OK, you are blaming Obama for her loss. Not her weak support. I see where you are confused. nt Logical May 2015 #48

She received nearly 50% of primary votes against a political phenom. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #53

Wait, from what I read back in '08 and again lately I thought Hillary was the phenom. A Simple Game May 2015 #60

The little known first term senator DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #69

And was given a snowball's chance in hell against the Juggernaut that was Hillary. A Simple Game May 2015 #96

A lot of pundits identified Barack Obama as a rising star. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #98

And I have to agree with your header, he was considered a rising star. A Simple Game May 2015 #101

And he was Black rock May 2015 #100

Once he won IA and demonstrated his crossover appeal... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #105

if that was the case Sharpton would have done a bit better than he did JI7 May 2015 #127

Black AND Handsome rock May 2015 #129

i would say his personality and amazing political talent , but yes, there was excitement JI7 May 2015 #133

You're giving President Obama way too little credit. Cha Jun 2015 #159

How so Cha? rock Jun 2015 #166

He and his team were smart in their primary campaign.. they knew the rules.. eyes on the prize and Cha Jun 2015 #169

Well now, you got me there rock Jun 2015 #171

Mahalo, rock.. and when he won he chose Hillary for SOS.. Cha Jun 2015 #172

The term is 'crediting Obama' and O'Malley geek tragedy May 2015 #72

Why do people ignore that fact? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #75

You're already breaking one rule of winning... Ghost in the Machine May 2015 #92

I addressed your point in Post 53.... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #97

Do you offer to meet them on the Metro? U4ikLefty May 2015 #142

I don't think he is meant to beat Hillary. zeemike May 2015 #111

I have a feeling, knowning your posting history, you made a similar 'call'... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #149

You would be sorely mistaken. I had more respect for Barack Obama. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #150

Amen. Hillary 2016 Laser102 Jun 2015 #165

Would be nice if you'd post this as an OP Duppers May 2015 #73

here it is bigtree May 2015 #77

Thank you! Duppers May 2015 #80

When I consider the national polls this board appears to be irrelevant. olegramps May 2015 #93

^^^ concise and accurate description. erronis May 2015 #99

All I can tell you is that DU is not a proxy for the nation. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #102

Indeed - we need our own version of the "Eleventh Commandment." calimary Jun 2015 #156

This is not a very good argument Scootaloo Jun 2015 #158

I am emchanted to be the recipent of such superior logic. olegramps Jun 2015 #175

...and he stated that those numbers are subject to change. Maedhros Jun 2015 #177

Please do not confuse "working to defeat Hillary in the primary" Maedhros Jun 2015 #176

You haven't seen any posts saying that they would sit out the election? olegramps Jun 2015 #179

Will not vote PERIOD, or will not vote for Hillary? Maedhros Jun 2015 #181

You might as well say that you are not voting. olegramps Jun 2015 #182

I will not be bullied into surrending my vote to a candidate I don't believe in.[n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #183

You are going to really know about bullied if a Republican President is elected. olegramps Jun 2015 #184

The protection-racket approach to campaigning just doesn't do it for me. Maedhros Jun 2015 #185

The Romans had a phrase for this : cheapdate Jun 2015 #188

K&R. n/t FSogol May 2015 #2

this Martin O'Malley? VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #3

Looky there. Charts Autumn May 2015 #5

I don't get it, they all look the same to me. NYC_SKP May 2015 #13

I've noticed that Sanders's fans don't like being challenged on the notion... Buzz Clik May 2015 #17

nah, I see o'malley as a progressive cali May 2015 #26

Your insights have been noted for years. Buzz Clik May 2015 #36

Never mind those stupid charts, I'll get to the bottom of this as soon as I get back from the attic. A Simple Game May 2015 #67

I'm a host there but all of my awesome Hillary Smack Downs are posted in GD. NYC_SKP May 2015 #32

Yeah, and you ban everyone who steps into the hallowed ground. Buzz Clik May 2015 #34

I haven't blocked anyone. And, TBH, I don't support some of the blocks. NYC_SKP May 2015 #51

You and I have never crossed swords before, NYC_SKP, but I will tell you... Buzz Clik May 2015 #63

This post would have been better used as retraction and apology for your post #34. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #84

That will happen when hell freezes over. Buzz Clik May 2015 #85

"Yeah, and you ban everyone who steps into the hallowed ground." cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #91

I post an opinion, you call it bullshit and demand an apology? Yeah, there's a fantasy for you. Buzz Clik May 2015 #117

"you ban eeveryone" ain't an opinion; it's a claim. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #123

For the love of God Buzz Clik May 2015 #124

I like O'Malley and so far he is my second choice. Far as I can see, a vast majority of DUers sabrina 1 May 2015 #40

I love that picture! And, yes, we aren't ashamed of our choices. NYC_SKP May 2015 #50

"so why would his supporters 'retreat' anywhere". But they have their own group... Buzz Clik May 2015 #64

So should Hillary and O'Malley supporters retreat to their 'own groups' also? Lol! sabrina 1 May 2015 #78

I was referring to the complaints about being challenged in GD. Buzz Clik May 2015 #81

Who's complaining? I WILL debunk any lies told, not just about my Candidate, but about any of them sabrina 1 May 2015 #112

At no time in this thread did I direct a comment to you. Buzz Clik May 2015 #115

That is an AWESOME pic!!! cui bono May 2015 #128

This is absolutely true... Springslips May 2015 #44

These types of things are great for manipulating low knowledge/information voters. FlatBaroque May 2015 #58

regarding these charts: Raine1967 May 2015 #79

On the charts, no explanation is provided for how they are generated. NYC_SKP May 2015 #94

Thank you, NYC_SKP. Raine1967 May 2015 #113

IIRC, that site takes what politicians *say*, as in their *campaigns*, but does nothing to examine cui bono May 2015 #130

Looky! Charts that challenge the Sanders's crowd notion that Bernie is the only lib in the group. Buzz Clik May 2015 #14

Bernie? Which one is he in that unlabeled mix? CandyLand is much better. Autumn May 2015 #20

Yeah, ignorant comments are so funny. Buzz Clik May 2015 #25

No the entire country is not laughing at Sanders. Which chart was he again? Autumn May 2015 #29

bwahaha. you chiding anyone about ignorance cali May 2015 #30

And here comes cali! Right on cue. How are you! I missed you SO much. Buzz Clik May 2015 #33

Yeah, Bernie trolls are getting big bucks, you bet. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #54

... And there would have been a time that I wouldn't have needed it either. Buzz Clik May 2015 #59

Cali isn't working near as hard as you are in this comedy of a thread. bvar22 May 2015 #119

I really don't think we have to go there... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #35

I fully agree, but the Sanders crowd have been relentless in pounding on Clinton... Buzz Clik May 2015 #37

I know people hate Vanilla Rhapsody's charts... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #41

"I do believe there is a lot more daylight between Bernie and Hillary... " agreed, but... Buzz Clik May 2015 #43

My concerns are kitchen table issues DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #49

And I suspect your kitchen table issues ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #65

YOU bring Sanders up in a thread about O'Malley Autumn May 2015 #45

Gee ... what could make me think you are a Sanders fan. What could it be? Buzz Clik May 2015 #47

So as a Sanders 'fan" I can't comment on another Democrat running for President? Autumn May 2015 #52

I like Sanders and O'Malley... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #82

I don't like bashing Democrats but I do like discussing Democratic candidates. Autumn May 2015 #131

Crowd? I had no idea that there were Jackpine Radical May 2015 #61

We are a crowd, and a crowd that's getting bigger all the time. Autumn May 2015 #132

Lib? Thanks for that. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2015 #186

Charts LOL Robbins May 2015 #15

" i don't know how any can call Obama a democrat anymore." Of course you can't. Buzz Clik May 2015 #22

You are a grown man or woman so I can't tell you what to do... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #8

I agree with you....but I am not trying to prove a point to them necessarily.... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #11

Holding up empirical evidence to some folks is like holding up a cross to a vampire./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #19

Yeah....they hiss and wrap themselves in their capes! VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #21

It really is sad and they get outraged when you refuse to engage them in a serious discussion. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #28

We don't have capes my friend. Neither do we hiss. Autumn Jun 2015 #187

Results: R B Garr May 2015 #83

Resolved @11:01; I'd LOVE to know what time the alert was sent... cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #89

Thanks for posting that. Looks like a couple of jurors are hip to some things around here Number23 May 2015 #136

+1 ... So true ... So true. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #66

Where are those charts from? Fiendish Thingy May 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #86

that didn't last long neverforget May 2015 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #114

Now *that's* a chart I can get behind! cui bono May 2015 #135

facts suck uponit7771 May 2015 #154

Yes he did. elleng May 2015 #4

I don't think that's where it hurts. Orsino May 2015 #18

Actually no Bernie Supporter... VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #24

who is pro Death Penalty? Why Hillary is a "strong advocate" for the DP cali May 2015 #141

Yeah, so far to the right of Hillary he came out against TPP, and Hillary can't make her mind up snooper2 Jun 2015 #180

What "dynasty" are you talking about? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #74

The Clinton dynasty is already established... Orsino May 2015 #118

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #122

Hillary will hit OMalley where it hurts workinclasszero May 2015 #27

We need more folks like you. My pops had all of a ninth grade education. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #31

Sure... kenfrequed May 2015 #38

um, Sanders has both spoken highly of Hillary, personally (as has O'Malley) bigtree May 2015 #68

Interesting reactions to Gov. O'Malley entering the race by some Peacetrain May 2015 #46

I'm already unimpressed treestar May 2015 #55

Exactly.. not after losing in 2008 and 4 years as SOS... she's working her way back. I still Cha Jun 2015 #161

That was the only line of his Announcement speech ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #56

That stings... Jesus Malverde May 2015 #57

great line heaven05 May 2015 #103

. geek tragedy May 2015 #70

eight years ago, many folks here with different choices this election expressed support for Clinton bigtree May 2015 #76

Charts! Charts! We've all got charts! RufusTFirefly May 2015 #71

Interesting. How will he position himself relative to Bernie? polichick May 2015 #87

I would highlight his experience in actually enacting the things he's advocated for bigtree May 2015 #104

Here we go again, 2008 all over. Faygo Kid May 2015 #88

possible second choice heaven05 May 2015 #90

Blankfein would be just fine Depaysement May 2015 #95

Why would anyone want to hurt a fellow Democrat? cutroot May 2015 #106

good stonecutter357 May 2015 #107

excellent hit! O'Malley can pack a punch & that's good wordpix May 2015 #109

His announcement speech was fuzzy, bland, and instantly forgettable. cheapdate May 2015 #110

like saying Hillary 'hustles money' bigtree May 2015 #116

I'm aware of that, and I was aware of it when I wrote it. cheapdate May 2015 #121

Then there's this -- cheapdate May 2015 #125

What I need to know... Koinos May 2015 #126

I don't know. cheapdate May 2015 #143

Not in my opinion. Koinos May 2015 #144

We'll just have to disagree. cheapdate May 2015 #145

Most people don't know O'Malley -- yet. Koinos Jun 2015 #170

it's clear that you favor Sanders here bigtree May 2015 #146

Yes, Sanders is not immune, a fact which I recognized, for Pete's sake. cheapdate May 2015 #151

Oh, Zing at Bernie from O'Malley! Cheap shot or not? Cha Jun 2015 #160

Cheap shot. cheapdate Jun 2015 #168

I didn't miss it... Kalidurga May 2015 #120

Meh. Same ole, same ole.n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #134

Same ole truth. n/t whatchamacallit May 2015 #138

Good, sing it from the mountaintops whatchamacallit May 2015 #137

zzzzzwap bam zok pow kapow biff pam thunk whamm boomffff L0oniX May 2015 #139

I am a strong Bernie supporte hifiguy May 2015 #140

Here's what I thought was hilarious - SusanCalvin May 2015 #147

I think that Elizabeth Warren would not have been "fine" with him. Koinos May 2015 #152

I'm not fine with him either, of course. SusanCalvin May 2015 #153

O'Malley has been impressive so far. Keep it up. nt Joe the Revelator May 2015 #148

Oh, the "dynasty" trope? Disgusting sexism, and I'm surprised to see it from a self-styled NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #157

Precisely, NYC Liberal.. good analysis. She is not her husband Bill. It's too lazy an attack. Cha Jun 2015 #163

He sort of reminds me of Howard Dean loyalsister Jun 2015 #162

Gov O'Malley zings Bernie, too.. Cha Jun 2015 #164

Good for you, Mr. O'Malley bigwillq Jun 2015 #167

Cheap shot by a demagogue. Nitram Jun 2015 #174

I imagine if it did indeed hurt, a major shift in the polls will be evident. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #178