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In reply to the discussion: Is anyone watching C-Span for the Vote on Patriot Act & Freedom Act in Senate....... [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)37. UPDATE: 8:25 p.m. --The Senate voted overwhelmingly to advance the USA Freedom Act Sunday Eve..BUT
Senate Advances Patriot Act Overhaul, but Too Late to Foil Rand Paul (Updated)
By Steven Dennis
http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/senate-usa-freedom-act-patriot-act-rand-paul/?dcz=
Updated 8:25 p.m. | The Senate voted overwhelmingly to advance the USA Freedom Act Sunday evening, but too late to prevent Sen. Rand Paul from being able to force a short-term expiration of Patriot Act surveillance authorities at midnight.
The overwhelming vote Sunday came after Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., threw in the towel on advancing any short-term extensions of the Patriot Act authorities under the continuing objections of Paul, the fellow Kentuckian he has endorsed for the presidency.
The Senate voted 77-17, far above the 60-vote threshold to advance the bill. Several more steps are required, however, before a vote on final passage, which wouldnt happen until Tuesday at 2 a.m. at the earliest in the face of maximum obstruction from Paul. And its starting to look like it could take more days beyond that.
Paul acknowledged the bill will ultimately pass as he began an hourlong speech Sunday night.
The Patriot Act will expire tonight. It will only be temporary, he acknowledged. But he said that forcing the expiration was still worth it, and believed most Americans agreed with him.
The administration earlier indicated that the point of no return for cutting off the NSAs bulk phone metadata program is 8 p.m., and Republican leaders effectively gave up trying to prevent the expiration in the face of Pauls obstruction. No more votes were expected Sunday night.
McConnell, who had previously voted to filibuster the USA Freedom Act, preferring a straight Patriot Act extension, switched sides but said hed like to see it amended. That would require going back to the House, potentially delaying any revival of the Patriot Act authorities.
McConnells announcement came after several tense exchanges on the floor with Paul, including a testy back-and-forth with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who repeatedly accused Paul of not knowing Senate rules for when he is allowed to speak. At one point, McCain even objected to letting Paul talk for five minutes, before relenting.
He would be the worst candidate we could put forward, the GOPs 2008 nominee later told reporters about Pauls presidential aspirations.
Republican leaders now hope to finish up action to restore Patriot Act surveillance authorities in the coming days, calling the authorities of critical importance at a time of rising and sophisticated terrorist threats.
This really does raise the risk to the public, said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, who seemed to direct his remarks at Paul.
It does eliminate one of the tools that the intelligence community has to identify homegrown terrorists, and it just seems to me to be reckless to not at least allow a temporary continuation, Cornyn said. But thats not the way its working and unfortunately I think its, you know, part of a presidential campaign and people have to judge it for themselves.
While this has now become an urgent matter, Republican leaders also had allowed the Senate to go home for recess for the past week, despite Pauls threats.
Senators voting to filibuster proceeding to the USA Freedom Act were all Republicans: Susan Collins of Maine, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Michael D. Crapo of Idaho, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Dan Coats of Indiana, Pat Roberts of Kansas, Paul, Deb Fischer of Nebraska, John Barrasso of Wyoming, Jodi Ernst of Iowa, Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Marco Rubio of Florida, Jim Risch of Idaho and John Thune of South Dakota.
Some of those senators, however, made clear that they didnt support Rand Paul.
Its not because I stand with Rand Paul, but because I believe that were not going to be given sufficient opportunity to correct some serious flaws in the House bill, Collins said. I believe that the House bill raises privacy concerns that far exceed what the current law allows.
It wasnt because I was voting with Rand, said Thune, the Republican Conference chairman. I just think we ought to have more of an opportunity to fix the House bill.
Thune said possible amendments included extending the six months in the House bill for a transition away from the bulk program and a certification that the technology is ready to do so.
Niels Lesniewski and Matthew Fleming contributed to this report.
By Steven Dennis
http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/senate-usa-freedom-act-patriot-act-rand-paul/?dcz=
Updated 8:25 p.m. | The Senate voted overwhelmingly to advance the USA Freedom Act Sunday evening, but too late to prevent Sen. Rand Paul from being able to force a short-term expiration of Patriot Act surveillance authorities at midnight.
The overwhelming vote Sunday came after Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., threw in the towel on advancing any short-term extensions of the Patriot Act authorities under the continuing objections of Paul, the fellow Kentuckian he has endorsed for the presidency.
The Senate voted 77-17, far above the 60-vote threshold to advance the bill. Several more steps are required, however, before a vote on final passage, which wouldnt happen until Tuesday at 2 a.m. at the earliest in the face of maximum obstruction from Paul. And its starting to look like it could take more days beyond that.
Paul acknowledged the bill will ultimately pass as he began an hourlong speech Sunday night.
The Patriot Act will expire tonight. It will only be temporary, he acknowledged. But he said that forcing the expiration was still worth it, and believed most Americans agreed with him.
The administration earlier indicated that the point of no return for cutting off the NSAs bulk phone metadata program is 8 p.m., and Republican leaders effectively gave up trying to prevent the expiration in the face of Pauls obstruction. No more votes were expected Sunday night.
McConnell, who had previously voted to filibuster the USA Freedom Act, preferring a straight Patriot Act extension, switched sides but said hed like to see it amended. That would require going back to the House, potentially delaying any revival of the Patriot Act authorities.
McConnells announcement came after several tense exchanges on the floor with Paul, including a testy back-and-forth with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who repeatedly accused Paul of not knowing Senate rules for when he is allowed to speak. At one point, McCain even objected to letting Paul talk for five minutes, before relenting.
He would be the worst candidate we could put forward, the GOPs 2008 nominee later told reporters about Pauls presidential aspirations.
Republican leaders now hope to finish up action to restore Patriot Act surveillance authorities in the coming days, calling the authorities of critical importance at a time of rising and sophisticated terrorist threats.
This really does raise the risk to the public, said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, who seemed to direct his remarks at Paul.
It does eliminate one of the tools that the intelligence community has to identify homegrown terrorists, and it just seems to me to be reckless to not at least allow a temporary continuation, Cornyn said. But thats not the way its working and unfortunately I think its, you know, part of a presidential campaign and people have to judge it for themselves.
While this has now become an urgent matter, Republican leaders also had allowed the Senate to go home for recess for the past week, despite Pauls threats.
Senators voting to filibuster proceeding to the USA Freedom Act were all Republicans: Susan Collins of Maine, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Michael D. Crapo of Idaho, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Dan Coats of Indiana, Pat Roberts of Kansas, Paul, Deb Fischer of Nebraska, John Barrasso of Wyoming, Jodi Ernst of Iowa, Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Marco Rubio of Florida, Jim Risch of Idaho and John Thune of South Dakota.
Some of those senators, however, made clear that they didnt support Rand Paul.
Its not because I stand with Rand Paul, but because I believe that were not going to be given sufficient opportunity to correct some serious flaws in the House bill, Collins said. I believe that the House bill raises privacy concerns that far exceed what the current law allows.
It wasnt because I was voting with Rand, said Thune, the Republican Conference chairman. I just think we ought to have more of an opportunity to fix the House bill.
Thune said possible amendments included extending the six months in the House bill for a transition away from the bulk program and a certification that the technology is ready to do so.
Niels Lesniewski and Matthew Fleming contributed to this report.
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Is anyone watching C-Span for the Vote on Patriot Act & Freedom Act in Senate....... [View all]
KoKo
May 2015
OP
There's enough Democrats who are good on this issue that I don't have to give Paul credit.
peecoolyour
May 2015
#28
I wasn't impressed with his speech and I know he really wanted "Patriot Act" to Expire...
KoKo
May 2015
#11
Thanks..I know it's like Heresy to post this on DU but...if it was Kennedy or Byrd speaking against
KoKo
May 2015
#16
He makes alot of us cringe...but if you find the transcript...you might find it interesting.....
KoKo
May 2015
#20
It's a good watch for the Humor and his focus on "Section 215" of the Patriot Act....
KoKo
May 2015
#30
I like how the conversation changes when people are asked about naked pictures.
Jesus Malverde
May 2015
#31
I've been following the story and was going to write an OP today about some of the
sabrina 1
May 2015
#25
I understand,"Sabrina 1"...I have an Update from Roll Call just posted...Smoke & Mirrors...
KoKo
May 2015
#39
UPDATE: 8:25 p.m. --The Senate voted overwhelmingly to advance the USA Freedom Act Sunday Eve..BUT
KoKo
May 2015
#37