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38. No place to dock on Roosevelt Island

Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:55 PM

Jun 2015

At least not in any capacity. I don't even remember seeing a boat or ferry docked at RI. The powerful running tides in the East River make Roosevelt a terrible place to tie up.

I guess people could rappel from the Queenboro bridge but Port Authority won't like that very much.

Of course the rich and famous could helicopter in, but even then there's not much capacity. I'd love to be there but I'd get there really early in the day and picnic with friends.

Unless the city sets up special subway shuttles there will be thousands left on platforms around the city. It is a transit nightmare.

We put almost a million people in Central Park in March 2003 and the place is surrounded by transit. Even then it was a rough travel day, worse than St. Patrick's Day parade.

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Want to see a big crowd? Wait for this one. [View all] OKNancy Jun 2015 OP

It will be huge. DCBob Jun 2015 #1

BUT NOW THE ARROW IS POINTING UPTOWN! JaneyVee Jun 2015 #69

Actually, it's pointing at Chris Christie.... brooklynite Jun 2015 #81

Yes it is!!! Wilms Jun 2015 #163

I can't wait. KMOD Jun 2015 #2

I think that's a great choice and I'm sure the crowd cali Jun 2015 #3

How small is that island anyway? L0oniX Jun 2015 #100

The park is 4 acres total, w/ tightly controlled access. Divernan Jun 2015 #152

Exactly. And let's hope the crowd looks more like America. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #4

Yes, Bernie should have bussed in some Black Folk as tokens in his almost all-white location. libdem4life Jun 2015 #5

Why would she have it in Arkansas? She was born in Chicago. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #8

That was her political home. You could fill in any state to get the PC ethnic mix. libdem4life Jun 2015 #18

What elected political position did she hold in Arkansas? JaneyVee Jun 2015 #25

Good lord, picky, picky. She was First Lady...seems that's considered a fairly high libdem4life Jun 2015 #30

Some still call her a Carpet Bagger, She isn't as popular in New York as many on DU think. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #66

She is very popular in NY. KMOD Jun 2015 #78

Perhaps opportunistic and skating in on her, gasp, last name? I admire her political skills. libdem4life Jun 2015 #86

Vox: "It's time for the media to admit that Hillary Clinton is popular" Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #101

She is very popular in NY. Her approval here is about 65%. NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #108

Bernie's campaign shouldn't HAVE to bus in some "Black Folk". KittyWampus Jun 2015 #13

It does in Vermont. libdem4life Jun 2015 #19

My point is, if POC were interested, they wouldn't have to be "bussed in". Get it? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #16

So, in the Lilly White NE, where would they have to travel from to hear what they libdem4life Jun 2015 #21

IF, and I say "if" for a reason...POC were interested, there are neighboring states with much more.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #29

Which state, for example. And AFAIK being a supporter does not mean taking a trip to stand in libdem4life Jun 2015 #36

The problem for Bernie, and trust me, it's going to be a problem, is that the MN crowd bore a..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #40

Hate? Hmmm, Ok. Yes, MN has a 5% black population, and as to the Ellison comparison libdem4life Jun 2015 #41

Obviously, Bernie traveling to where his supporters are. Nothing wrong with that. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #47

Indeed. Some of us call that place home. Unlike some other candidates who dare libdem4life Jun 2015 #54

So Bernie announcerd in Brooklyn? He announced in the state where he held office. HRC is doing the Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #58

You know, I called California home for many decades. I was not born there. Another nit to pick. libdem4life Jun 2015 #68

You're the one who introduced Arkansas into the discussion. Why? Neither HRC or BS are announcing Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #74

From a house party in Iowa last week cyberswede Jun 2015 #44

Great. What's your point? You found a picture with a black guy in it? YAY! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #49

I found a picture with Americans in it. cyberswede Jun 2015 #55

Since when does one black guy constitute "a crowd"? I know the point you're trying to make, but.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #65

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #57

WTF???? Just stop digging. Please! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #96

" Exactly. And let's hope the crowd looks more like America." That's digging a hole, libdem4life Jun 2015 #99

Yeah. After that "fried chicken" line, you probably need to go ahead & step away. C'ya. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #105

Was there a sign out front that MuseRider Jun 2015 #83

This is like Debate Class. I kind of enjoy it. The one who "loses it" emotionally libdem4life Jun 2015 #88

Don't misunderstand, I AM SOOOOOO "HAPPY"! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #94

It looks like POC are noticing Bernie. Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #129

Hey, there's 13% up for grabs. It's gotta go somewhere. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #133

Here's a link for you, check it out and get back to us about how many People of Color A Simple Game Jun 2015 #73

Obama didn't introduce himself to the world in Burlington. That came later. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #75

The point is you expect People of Color to drive 5 hours for Bernie when they didn't A Simple Game Jun 2015 #112

Here's something else that happened in VT. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #115

I don't even know what that is that you posted. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #120

Tarheel is flicking boogers at a wall and hoping something sticks Scootaloo Jun 2015 #126

They appear to be stuck on his finger. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2015 #138

My, my...you've gone personal. Is that how you want to proceed? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #149

Your jury results Ruby the Liberal Jun 2015 #157

I could care less. Just pointing out what Bernie was doing in 2012 to "help" Democrats. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #127

Why don't you start talking about something other than meaningless fantasy polls. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #139

Sure. Here ya go. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #141

Oh look, you've got a booger stuck to your finger, bye. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2015 #145

Just trying to give you what you asked for. Or didn't you really want to know? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #146

Did I really want to know about your past fantasies? No and if you A Simple Game Jun 2015 #153

I fantasized about Bernie wanting the sitting Democratic POTUS to be primaried? FYI: Those "fantasy" Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #155

A picture is worth ... well, a lot. libdem4life Jun 2015 #89

Looks like the world's most interesting man was there though G_j Jun 2015 #148

Burlington is hours from anyplace with a significant cali Jun 2015 #92

Well, thanks for that explanation. And I'm assuming we have the same issues in Minneapolis? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #97

Vermont isn't exactly close to many centers of population for minorities mythology Jun 2015 #22

If the area one is speaking about is predominantly white then if you want to have a photo op with jwirr Jun 2015 #26

Were you elected to be a community spokesperson, or are you just assuming the privilege yourself? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #103

As a card carrying member of said "community", when someone shows me who they are..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #106

So you have assumed the privilege to speak for everyone. Gotcha. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #109

Not for everyone....just myself & these guys ------->>>>>>> Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #111

You must not be terribly confident in those numbers though Scootaloo Jun 2015 #117

Right back at ya. Bad optics, coupled with a speech that leaves out a signficant part of the base = Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #118

"As long as she comes up with it in front of a desegregated audience, I'm cool with it." Scootaloo Jun 2015 #123

Oh, as Arkansas Governor, a quarter of Cinton's staff was African American KittyWampus Jun 2015 #17

I have no doubt about her staff...we aren't talking about that. We're talking about libdem4life Jun 2015 #23

Petulance. Pretty near to flatulence. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #6

Right back at ya, my dear Comrade. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #14

Maybe she'll actually come up with a platform and mention some issues! Scootaloo Jun 2015 #51

As long as she comes up with it in front of a desegregated audience, I'm cool with it. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #53

Maybe! Scootaloo Jun 2015 #98

But he won! TWICE! So the Obama coalition is still there, sans the angry white folk who "dumped" us. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #104

I don't think they're gone at all Scootaloo Jun 2015 #107

Obama supporter here, who now supports his former Sec of State. If you're speaking of my Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #110

Do you believe Sanders' staff bounced out black people? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #114

Were these "kickoff" events? Their big introduction to a party they didn't even belong to? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #116

No no. Keep telling me about our segregationist candidates, Tarheel_Dem Scootaloo Jun 2015 #119

I thought not. You have a good one. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #122

I look forward to our next engagement over your baseless BS assertions against Sanders. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #124

Nope. O'Malley is a Democrat. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #150

"Maybe she'll come up with a platform and mention some issues" WHAT!?!?!? lunamagica Jun 2015 #131

Maybe she'll mention those! Scootaloo Jun 2015 #134

She has. I guess you were not paying attention. nt lunamagica Jun 2015 #135

I was distracted by her supporters insisting Sanders is a segregationist, I'll admit Scootaloo Jun 2015 #136

I'm just tired of posters claiming that she hasn't addressed any issues, when she has lunamagica Jun 2015 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #144

Vermont isn't America? arcane1 Jun 2015 #52

Obtuse much? Show me where I said "Real America". But while we're on the subject.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #56

Yeah, I'm the obtuse one in this thread. arcane1 Jun 2015 #62

So, you didn't find the quote? Instead you came back with one of these.....? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #67

I'm not playing this child's game with you. arcane1 Jun 2015 #77

Awwww. TD haz a sad, cuz arcane drew conclusions based on what he "thought". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #93

I don't have a sad, you've been a hoot! But... freshwest Jun 2015 #164

Are you saying this thread is FUBAR? Then, fresh haz given TD another sad. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #165

Well, not your posts. Here's one to give you a happy. It did me: freshwest Jun 2015 #166

How did I miss that? You're right. I'm happy....HAPPY....happy! Magnificent slice of America. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #167

Glad to hear that! They may even vote! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #168

Here's the full video. Will post transcript when I find it. Enjoy: freshwest Jun 2015 #169

What's the over/under on whether more than 1% of the crowd shawn703 Jun 2015 #64

Yea ....I hear there's even a few rich people living on that island. L0oniX Jun 2015 #102

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #143

I wish I could be there. nt Rex Jun 2015 #7

I saw Al Gore in the waning days of Campaign 00 at the Lake Eola Bandshell in Orlando, FL DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #9

Saw Gore and Leiberman at a Tampa Fire House. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #10

This was the General-late October. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #15

Crowd size only comes into play for optics. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #11

More than "optics". It energizes. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #20

It does energize support. No doubt about it. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #28

It does Aerows Jun 2015 #151

I sure wish I could be there. Tipperary Jun 2015 #12

I can't think of a more inconvenient place in central NYC to draw a crowd Simeon Salus Jun 2015 #24

They're being helicoptered in BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #33

No place to dock on Roosevelt Island Simeon Salus Jun 2015 #38

Gosh, I almost forgot about my private yacht ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #39

LOL ! libdem4life Jun 2015 #42

Speaking of security. How does the Secret Service fit into her agenda? I am assuming that she jwirr Jun 2015 #35

They make her ride in a van to the same specs as 'The Beast.' She remembers RFK's murder. freshwest Jun 2015 #158

I had forgotten that the others have the same limitations. It would really bug me to have someone jwirr Jun 2015 #162

To be honest, I do not think this was her choice nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #76

Not far from me but i don't like big crowds. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #27

hrmjustin, You have one week to learn to like big crowds misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #61

Lol i don't know zbout that. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #63

A once in a lifetime event, you should give it some thought. MerryBlooms Jun 2015 #71

Aww I thought u would be there for sure /nt workinclasszero Jun 2015 #84

Don't forget, you are hedged in. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #160

LOL! Phentex Jun 2015 #125

Ya gotta go. n/t zappaman Jun 2015 #80

We shall see. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #82

Me neither, but dang! It's not like you don't know your way around there! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #159

Of course it will. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #31

Undoubtedly huge! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #32

Well, naturally Hillary's going to draw a bigger crowd in NYC KamaAina Jun 2015 #34

It's in New York City, the crowd will be massive. Autumn Jun 2015 #37

It would have been in Central Park Warpy Jun 2015 #128

I just realized another reason I like Bernie...he's a Hometown kind of guy. And he told us he libdem4life Jun 2015 #43

I do not trust Hillary Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #45

me either heaven05 Jun 2015 #48

"I knew it was bullshit, and now I'm sorry because you all know it's bullshit too" arcane1 Jun 2015 #59

That is a fabulous image. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #46

I'm fully a Hillary supporter, but to be fair here bluestateguy Jun 2015 #50

I wish I hadn't made the subject line what I did OKNancy Jun 2015 #60

eh, IMO there is nothing wrong with your subject line m-lekktor Jun 2015 #72

Props for that hootinholler Jun 2015 #130

I'm not fully supporting anyone yet (but I align with Bernie more), and that's a cool thing ScreamingMeemie Jun 2015 #132

Like every other pol she is launching from her home base nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #70

It will not be a big crowd at all. zappaman Jun 2015 #79

I bet there will be a lot of $$$$ ? kentuck Jun 2015 #85

Maybe some yachts sailing in the background too! zappaman Jun 2015 #95

I don't like to pit the crowds of one of our candidates against another. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #87

see post #60 OKNancy Jun 2015 #90

I like Hillary...That's no secret...I like her a lot... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #91

We will see Hillary at her best. She is getting her message to the people. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #113

It's unfair to criticize a crowd from an essentially all-white state for being all white. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #121

All our candidates deserve large and enthusiastic crowds. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #140

+1 freshwest Jun 2015 #161

Will she regale us with folksy tales of colorin' her hair? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #142

I liked her story. KMOD Jun 2015 #147

The story? Maybe. The delivery was unexpected from a Wellesely and Yale educated New York Senator. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #156

I think she knows that lots of women color their hair... CTyankee Jun 2015 #154