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JonLP24

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94. The debate I was having several months were they don't see Webb or O'Malley voters

Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:19 PM

Jun 2015

abandoning them for Bernie Sanders but where are they now? Abandoning is completely the wrong way to look at polls but you are assuming the people polled are as informed as lefty bloggers or paying attention to this as much as we are. The bottom line overall is no one is paying attention to the primary and Republican polls are far more detailed but they are recently starting to ask more questions on Bernie Sanders. 7 months from today who knows what changes we'll see -- certainly Hillary Clinton's advantages in Iowa anyway hasn't dropped but increased so odds are in her favor no doubt.

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Obama 89% Favorable, Hillary 86% Favorable, Sanders 47% Favorable (the base loves Obama & Hillary) [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 OP

surf's up! ucrdem Jun 2015 #1

Surfin Safari DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #8

LOL, better than '94 at least ... ucrdem Jun 2015 #21

I spoke to people who said there were some people who were so spooked they never moved back./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #24

Nope, she never did either. ucrdem Jun 2015 #31

These people left the state. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #34

It's nice... ucrdem Jun 2015 #54

I live in Woodland Hills but definitely not the tony part... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #56

Yes it was... Also deadly for some... n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #42

Lol! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #15

Hang ten! ucrdem Jun 2015 #18

I'm loving those numbers. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #2

Then you guys can sit back and relax, right? Cool! djean111 Jun 2015 #3

The Democratic base never just sits back and relaxes Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #11

Obama's popularity is why Clinton will support TPP. joshcryer Jun 2015 #4

Guess Bernie's low numbers is because he doesn't support TPP. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #36

You cannot expect a shift until the debates. joshcryer Jun 2015 #40

But you can't say his will be better after the debates, Hillary knows how to handle herself. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #43

We'll see in a little over month. joshcryer Jun 2015 #45

OK, then the candidates has to sell themselves, favorably rates just may determine their votes. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #48

Sure you can demwing Jun 2015 #115

Oh, wow, quiet a complement to Hillary, thanks, she is great. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #116

It's true - she's famous demwing Jun 2015 #117

So he wins the debate because he gets on stage with Hillary. I don't see you saying this because Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #119

It's SO BASIC demwing Jun 2015 #120

I know Hillary is great, it is still Bernie's responsibility to sell himself. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #121

Lol "riding on Hillary's back" demwing Jun 2015 #123

You are the one who said it would help Bernie if he got on the stage with Hillary, maybe Bernie Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #124

And you are the one exhibiting conversational myopia demwing Jun 2015 #125

Why bring it up? If it is a problem for you then don't bring it up. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #129

This is hilarious JonLP24 Jun 2015 #78

Yes once one is polling in the 80's it is harder to rise above this. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #82

OK but I doubt TPP is of big importance of the Iowan vote JonLP24 Jun 2015 #83

Then it might be a problem in giving the voters in Iowa a good reason to support Sanders based on Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #96

I don't see it JonLP24 Jun 2015 #97

Time will tell, I wonder where all the union support during the polls? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #118

I wonder if that will be true if the WTO or ISDS court sues the U.S. for farm subsidies... cascadiance Jun 2015 #130

Well, the TPP is supported by a majority of Democrats. Sanders can possibly persuade them Recursion Jun 2015 #98

Hmm... ALL of the Republican senators support TPP, and only 13-14 Democratic senators support it. cascadiance Jun 2015 #102

I was talking about voters, not elected officials Recursion Jun 2015 #104

Public "support" of the TPP as put out by the corporate media is also rather mythical... cascadiance Jun 2015 #110

Hillary is going to take that 86% workinclasszero Jun 2015 #5

Democrats love them both! William769 Jun 2015 #6

Democrats LOVE: freshwest Jun 2015 #44

awww, KMOD Jun 2015 #47

I forgot about that pic. Thanks for that beautiful reminder. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #108

The president is Teflon! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #7

Yes but she's horrible according to some here. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #9

This is very good for all Democrats. MineralMan Jun 2015 #10

I sincerely hope you are right workinclasszero Jun 2015 #14

Trust me on this~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #17

I will and workinclasszero Jun 2015 #25

Dayum! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #32

Lolz workinclasszero Jun 2015 #35

You are welcome! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #38

Obama has been taunting Fux Noise with that for years! freshwest Jun 2015 #46

IKR? workinclasszero Jun 2015 #49

I want those coat tails to reach all the way to the State Houses ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #76

Yes yes yes workinclasszero Jun 2015 #77

2020 being a Presidential year is good for us in the State Houses Recursion Jun 2015 #99

I want, am working, to get a 2016 head start. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #122

+1 JoePhilly Jun 2015 #63

Every single candidate for the Dem nod will be BEGGING for Obama's endorsement Number23 Jun 2015 #65

Good point, MM.. of course it is! Gotta Love it! Cha Jun 2015 #91

Watch Sander's numbers go up and HRC's go down.... PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #12

These aren't poll numbers, they are favorable, unfavorable. BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #26

A lot more people know of him now than last week when the poll was taken. arcane1 Jun 2015 #57

That's a good, and fair, point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #80

Be careful. TM99 Jun 2015 #107

Definitely later BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #111

Hillary in Iowa-January: 56% Hillary in Iowa-May: 57% brooklynite Jun 2015 #53

Hillary in Iowa in 2008! BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #58

Is Obama running in 2016? brooklynite Jun 2015 #60

Well, we will see BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #64

BERNIE: 47% favorable, 12% unfavorable, 41% unsure (don't know him). AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #13

^^^this^^^ eom Purveyor Jun 2015 #27

Thanks for this! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #79

And Carter, Dukakis, and even Obama and Bill Clinton started lower than Bernie in some stats... cascadiance Jun 2015 #103

Yeah, kind of important. Hissyspit Jun 2015 #112

Yep. Good news for Sanders, too. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #128

"Contrary to what the media keeps reporting, there’s a clear front-runner" Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #16

Kickity kick! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #19

Folk will like Bernie when they find out who he is.... he's good people uponit7771 Jun 2015 #20

sanders is an unknown JI7 Jun 2015 #22

Cool! Anyone know Bernie's "not sure" number? cyberswede Jun 2015 #23

Check out post#26 with all the data BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #29

Thank you!! cyberswede Jun 2015 #33

Yes, since they get so much face time with candidates, this is a good situation for Sanders BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #37

You mean the names are recognized to that extent. Warpy Jun 2015 #28

We have an embarrassment of riches./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #30

Iowa huh CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #39

Yep! She won third place! It's where she lost the primary. morningfog Jun 2015 #69

Yes Obama and Hillary are favorites, Iowa will be the first state voting and we need to be sure Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #41

From the poll DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #50

Biden is burying Bernie and he's not even running . . . ucrdem Jun 2015 #52

The last two graphs tell all... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #55

The last one is the question in polls people rarely pay attention to JonLP24 Jun 2015 #73

If 87% of likely IA voters... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #87

I remember having debates over "not seeing" Webb & O'Malley voters abandoning them JonLP24 Jun 2015 #88

If you plot the candidates on an ideological plane Biden and Webb would be closer to Clinton ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #90

The debate I was having several months were they don't see Webb or O'Malley voters JonLP24 Jun 2015 #94

Polls are snaps shots... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #95

Sanders has a higher "never" than any other candidate Recursion Jun 2015 #100

And that's with ten times as many not sures 30% as HRC 3% DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #101

Count me in the "Never". I'm a lifelong Democrat. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #105

I'm not a Sanders "never" by any means Recursion Jun 2015 #106

I have my 1st, 2nd & even 3rd choices, and he's not among them. But I see his appeal to some. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #109

*Shrug* I don't base my vote on polls. Or likeability, or hair style, or types of underwear. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #51

While I agree with you in part rpannier Jun 2015 #59

Arkansas seems hopeless as does much of the Old South./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #67

Oh goodie another poll. Fearless Jun 2015 #61

love me some obama. love me some clinton. love me some sanders. nt arely staircase Jun 2015 #62

Locozollo, is that you? OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #66

What does that mean? You don't like President Obama's numbers out of Iowa? "President Obama topped Cha Jun 2015 #93

One way of looking at the poll JonLP24 Jun 2015 #68

K&R I am overjoyed knowing how much our president is beloved in the party Number23 Jun 2015 #70

Yeah, it's good to hear from the Real World! Cha Jun 2015 #72

Ask 1000 people to rate three flavors of ice cream: demwing Jun 2015 #71

That is a very impressive analogy JonLP24 Jun 2015 #81

LoZo did it better hobbit709 Jun 2015 #74

:) Hissyspit Jun 2015 #113

I don't think that "Democratic caucus-goers in Iowa" = "the base" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2015 #75

HRC has a 85% favorability among Dems in a nat'l poll. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #84

And only 57% would vote for her if the primary were today. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2015 #86

She has broken sixty percent in several national polls: DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #89

"Only"??? pnwmom Jun 2015 #114

The average of polls is about 62% and not 57% DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #127

We will see in 9 months AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #85

"President Obama topped the list of 89% favorable to 9% unfavorable." THank you, Iowa! Cha Jun 2015 #92

They have spent so much of their lives working toward positive results. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #126

America will get what it deserves. Gregorian Jun 2015 #131