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BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. I would argue that liberals are the majority by a wide margin
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jun 2015

1) Centrists are not traditional the Democrats from before the days of Reagan because there was plenty of room for them in the Republican Party. Because the R party has become so extreme, social liberals have switched over and changed the Democratic Party dramatically.

2) When polled on the issues, a majority of Democrats fall into the liberal spectrum, not centrist, by a wide margin.

3) The midterms where centrist Democrats get whooped and liberal Dems fare much better. Liberals ARE the base because they can define the party as different than Republicans. Centrists can't do that and so people have no idea where they stand.

4) Barack Obama ran as a big time liberal and won *twice*. People didn't flock to him becuase he presented himself as a liberal. His campaign managers knew what the people wanted and so created that campaign.

5) Hillary, O'Malley, and Sanders are all running as liberal populists. The most left sounding field I have seen in a long time. She is trying to sound much more liberal than 2008. I assume there is some kind of internal polling in the party that tells them that populism is the way to go (sparked by Elizabeth Warren).

I think there are many people who might poll as more centrists because they have bought the bullshit about deficits and tax cuts. But for just about every other centrist policy, I can't think of one that is too popular.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166787/liberal-self-identification-edges-new-high-2013.aspx

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I honestly don't understand the DCCC kenfrequed Jun 2015 #1
And these Democrats are the ones that get beaten in midterms too! cascadiance Jun 2015 #4
Oh gods yes. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #5
Stopped reading at, "Real Democrats" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #2
Could you please define what is the difference between a conservative Democrat BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #6
While these are really broad, to the point of uselessness, terms ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #8
Snow came to mind after I posted BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #9
I agree; but, as much as we would like to argue about it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #10
Except polling repeatedly shows this claim is wrong. jeff47 Jun 2015 #12
That is a fair point. I should have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #13
I would argue that liberals are the majority by a wide margin BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #14
I edited that to what I should have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #15
I would edit to say BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #18
+ another Scuba Jun 2015 #22
+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #21
Liberals: you can count on em when the going gets rough BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #24
If you have a quality product, Downwinder Jun 2015 #3
This is precisely why Hillary will have to raise $2 billion plus to run. leveymg Jun 2015 #7
Keep in mind that Bernie got 100,000 volunteers in the first week that he announced... Mr. Robot Jun 2015 #17
Tsk. Tsk. Sad, very sad. Heartbreaking. Tragic. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #11
Boo fuckin' hoo. Mr. Robot Jun 2015 #16
Is it because the blue dogs are in redder states and its more difficult for a leftier democrat... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #19
^ Wilms Jun 2015 #20
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #23
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