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CANDO

(2,068 posts)
95. Let me try again...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:02 PM
Jun 2015

Me personally...I was born in 1964. All I know of times before that are whatever policies I've learned about such as the New Deal, SS, various labor laws benefiting the existence of a middle class, etc. When I yearn for policies of the past which proved successful, it is not meant by me to be a slight toward anyone. And I'm befuddled why others insist that I and others mean it that way. Because we don't! I think there's a ton of preaching to the choir here. There are people who have a message perfectly crafted for right wing teabagger types who direct their message and ire at those allies who do get it here on the left. And then when we get tired of the browbeating, we are then accused of not getting it or not seeing it from another viewpoint. Hello. We are and do view it from other perspectives. We do get it. We do want policies put in place to correct historical injustices. But again...why not direct your message and angst where it belongs...at and toward those on the right?

"try to read this without being in a defensive mindset from the get-go." Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #1
"If you want blacks, Latinos, and young people to tune you out.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #2
I agree. the so called golden age wasn't golden for minorities cali Jun 2015 #3
Yep. nt cyberswede Jun 2015 #18
Agreed on al points. cali. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #44
Kick and Rec. YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #4
Good post workinclasszero Jun 2015 #5
Given that the article exerpt you provided contains at least one major historical inaccuracy mythology Jun 2015 #6
. gollygee Jun 2015 #8
Awesome post. Thanks. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #10
Careful: Katznelson apparently draws a lot of hate on DU Recursion Jun 2015 #26
Well then they can read the other articles gollygee Jun 2015 #36
A lot of the AFofL trade unions 1939 Jun 2015 #15
Please link to the source of your (mis)information. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #58
Just wanted to add, that if you want to find a racist agenda you'll probably find it Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #7
Are economic populists trying to go back to the worst aspects of the 50s? I think not. bklyncowgirl Jun 2015 #9
The point being that white progressives geek tragedy Jun 2015 #11
l agree, but the trick is to do this without turning off too many working and middle class whites. bklyncowgirl Jun 2015 #12
A friend of mine in law school, who was a consummate sum of privilege hifiguy Jun 2015 #45
Frederick Douglass said the same things about free Blacks and Irish immigrants back in the 1850s. bklyncowgirl Jun 2015 #79
"Workers of the world unite! You have nothinig to lose but your chains. You have KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #80
Reference please ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #90
The concern that I/we have with the economic populist "looking back, going forward" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #89
Love me some Joan BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #13
Before they left, there were black posters here who talked about how they had land that was straight Number23 Jun 2015 #20
I hear you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #39
That would be MY family. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #65
When black people say these things, we are "manufacturing outrage" and "calling Sanders a racist" Number23 Jun 2015 #14
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #16
Nancy LeTourneau is saying basically the same, 23.. Cha Jun 2015 #32
If they will only stop and listen. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #40
Yes, "stop and listen" would be a great strategy when running for Pres. Imagine Bernie feels Cha Jun 2015 #51
This web site has been hostile to black opinions for a long time. NONE of this shit is new Number23 Jun 2015 #43
"NOT ONE of the folks that dived head long over the cliff with the "manufactured outrage" and "Stop Cha Jun 2015 #52
Yes indeed. ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #86
Good article. cyberswede Jun 2015 #17
Some things were better in the 1950s, like tax rates. We have to be able to say that. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #19
Whoosh. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #21
Yeah ... whoosh! A simple shame; but not unexpected. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #68
Not going back to the 50's culturally, or economically The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #22
al la carte One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #23
1950s - 1980 AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #24
What I don't get is how Hillary Clinton is supposed to be better. redgreenandblue Jun 2015 #25
Point is not that she is any nobler or geek tragedy Jun 2015 #33
I've never heard ANYONE- except members of the religious right- say things were awesome in the 50s. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #27
You've missed the past 6 years of geek tragedy Jun 2015 #34
I hear you, and on some of it i agree. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #50
I think advocating ideas that have been proven to work geek tragedy Jun 2015 #56
like the song says, you can't go back, and you can't stand still. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #69
blacklivesmatter CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #28
+a million. Number23 Jun 2015 #29
It shouldn't have to wait until the debates. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35
Exactly! bravenak Jun 2015 #37
Spot on. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #41
+1 million Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #59
Anyone who did not bail on the GOP by 1972, fails the racial awareness test. McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #30
Not that it matters since she isn't running for the presidency, Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #42
I don't hold that republican membership against Warren or anyone that has awaken ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #71
You should work on the examples and timeline madville Jun 2015 #94
"But the golden age wasn’t golden for people who weren’t white.." Cha Jun 2015 #31
Reaganomics and deregulation aren't good policy because they happened after the civil rights act TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #38
The consenus is that Obama has not addressed these issues, as his approach was not specific to Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #46
If this election were strictly about who has the best voting record, Bernie would be the geek tragedy Jun 2015 #60
Give it time. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #67
The Pres hasn't rejected all "race specific solutions", Jefferson.. from my previous post to the OP Cha Jun 2015 #81
The OP is what I am referring to, Cha..and good morning. Here she lends her opinion Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #84
Sometimes I wonder if I am in an alternate universe... Bonobo Jun 2015 #47
87% of African Americans view Hillary Clinton favorably Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #48
Yeah, and if I thought that that bland descriptor was an accurate gauge, I would agree. Bonobo Jun 2015 #49
True. bravenak Jun 2015 #55
I do admit it. Bonobo Jun 2015 #63
It sure ain't. bravenak Jun 2015 #64
I would say compartmentalized it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #73
That is also true. bravenak Jun 2015 #74
If black folks wrote off every white person who showed gross geek tragedy Jun 2015 #57
I'm not saying they "wrote her off" but... Bonobo Jun 2015 #61
2008 definitely strained relations, but this is someone who's been in the public geek tragedy Jun 2015 #66
there is no lack of memory, it's brought up by the black community all the time JI7 Jun 2015 #77
Did you NOT read the part about her efforts to repair that damage? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #72
I won't rise to your bait there. Bonobo Jun 2015 #75
Of course there isn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #78
Won't rise to that bait either, mister man. Bonobo Jun 2015 #82
Yep. That tactic is as old as the hills. And it certainly helps when some of the folks in that 13% Number23 Jun 2015 #87
Have you seen this? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #88
Okay. Let's try ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #91
There are POC on THIS site that still consider it an issue. Bonobo Jun 2015 #96
Yes. That's why the favorability numbers ar 87%/13% ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #98
2008 is recent to me. Bonobo Jun 2015 #99
Some people are going to be shocked when this campaign goes south and west DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #53
Joan Walsh has been reading from the AA Group of DU! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #54
Here's something I don't undertsand? CANDO Jun 2015 #92
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #93
Let me try again... CANDO Jun 2015 #95
Let ME try again ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #97
Warren was a Republican for 30 years. She is very much not my cup of tea due to her reluctance Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #62
I hear you on that. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #70
Everybody who had a job on the books got paid better in the 1950s Warpy Jun 2015 #76
Not African American domestic workers gollygee Jun 2015 #85
This proud liberal hopes that .. ananda Jun 2015 #83
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