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In reply to the discussion: White progressives’ racial myopia: Why their colorblindness fails minorities — and the left [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)97. Let ME try again ...
I was born in 1961. All I know of times before that are whatever policies I've learned about such as the New Deal, SS, various labor laws benefiting the existence of a middle class, etc. ... well, not really, I have read a lot about the programs and learned that Yes, they benefited the white middle class, while largely locking out/offering less to black folks, that remain a proximate cause of the present day wealth disparity between Black and white folks. So our memories, and continuing effects, of that golden age are vastly different.
When I yearn for policies of the past which proved successful, it is not meant by me to be a slight toward anyone.
Yes, those policies proved successful in creating, while lifting up much of America, lifted some more than others ... do you not see why that would be a problem for those "lifted less"? ... why we would not yearn for programs that were denied to us? And, sorry to say, your refusal to see/acknowledge that IS, in fact, a slight, whether intended or not.
And I'm befuddled why others insist that I and others mean it that way. Because we don't! ...And then when we get tired of the browbeating, we are then accused of not getting it or not seeing it from another viewpoint.
You trumpet the success of the programs and harken back to such a day ... I tell you those programs you herald did not include me, so I am less than enthralled with those programs, or those that enacted them ... You assist you did not intend my exclusion, the herald those programs, no the less ... and you wonder why people "browbeat you and/or claim you don't get it or are not seeing it from another viewpoint? I suggest it's because you DON'T.
Hello. We are and do view it from other perspectives. We do get it. We do want policies put in place to correct historical injustices.
Hello ... the programs you herald, LOCKED into place those historical injustices.
But again...why not direct your message and angst where it belongs...at and toward those on the right?
Oh ... I have plenty for the right ... I only talk with the good old days left because I hope to open their eyes how their pining comes across.
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White progressives’ racial myopia: Why their colorblindness fails minorities — and the left [View all]
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