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cherokeeprogressive

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31. Done this before, and I'll gladly do it again. Your ignorance is such that one could cut it with a
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

knife. That is to say THICK.

"Pre-primed." What is that... priming it before you prime it? Is that all you know about the Oriskany Fire? For that matter, what do you know about jet engines? I'll tell you all you need to know, and take this for what it is... information from someone with almost 500 days of flight deck experience.

You're claiming (without really knowing what you're claiming obviously) that McCain intentionally caused his A-4 to spit fire when he started it. You're also claiming, (again unintentionally since you DON'T KNOW how flight deck operations go) that McCain's aircraft, while spitting fire, cooked a bomb hanging from the wing of the plane parked behind it that eventually exploded.

May I give you a clue? Since the advent of jet engines, no aircraft on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier has ever started its engine while its exhaust was pointed at another parked aircraft ESPECIALLY if that aircraft had live weapons hanging from its wings. That's just now how it goes.

McCain's aircraft was parked on the port side aft. It was TOW (I'm going to make you look this term up yourself). An AO, testing the bomb-rack on an F-4 Phantom parked on the starboard side aft caused a ZUNI rocket to shoot across the deck, hit the drop tank (an auxilliary tank meant to be dropped when it was empty) on McCain's plane and ignite it. McCain was simply sitting in his A/C waiting for his turn to taxi (and I'm not talking about a Yellow Cab) to the catapult.

When his plane ignited McCain kept his cool, and was able to climb over his canopy and exit his plane by jumping from it's radome (yeah maybe you should look that one up too) to the ground.

I know men who were there that day. Most of them knew men who died in the aftermath. Your stupid bullshit post denigrates those brave men who lost their lives fighting the fire, and those men who died below the flight deck when bombs on OTHER planes cooked off and exploded.

Post about things you know.

"I did my homework will you???" is fucking laughable. Fucking laughable and sad to the Nth degree.

I've got a few minutes... post and tell me ALL YOU KNOW about flight deck operations in the US Navy... I say a few minutes, because I think that's about all it will take for you to tell me ALL YOU KNOW.

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Great. Fucking. Post. K&R 11 Bravo May 2012 #1
+1. OK not to serve. Not OK. . . Faygo Kid May 2012 #12
So you're implying McCain, by virtue of his service, was better than Obama? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #2
i think she is just calling romney an elitist La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #3
It is the trait of the Chicken-hawk to have others serve in their place. bahrbearian May 2012 #6
You nailed it! Romney promoted the Vietnam War while living it up in France. freshwest May 2012 #7
Mc Cain nahant May 2012 #16
I'll forgive anything McCain did while at the hands of the North Vietnamese. Scuba May 2012 #18
Yep. McCain may have been a colossal fuckup as a Navy pilot hifiguy May 2012 #35
Why? Adm. Stockdale didn't. Chan790 May 2012 #49
Can you provide a reference for this? Not a challenge, a request. Scuba May 2012 #50
Stockdale? Chan790 May 2012 #51
No, McCain's behavior while a POW. Scuba May 2012 #52
I never knew that. Clearly Stockdale was one tough hifiguy May 2012 #53
I know all about Ace, SongBird or Nightingale bahrbearian May 2012 #28
I think it has something to do with the five planes he downed jmowreader May 2012 #29
I think that one of them were sitting on the flight deck behind him. bahrbearian May 2012 #30
That one, IIRC, is in addition to the five he was in when they were destroyed jmowreader May 2012 #33
Done this before, and I'll gladly do it again. Your ignorance is such that one could cut it with a cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #31
Posts that make me go hmm ya ok bahrbearian May 2012 #32
I don't care what you go. I worked on the "roof". cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #34
Thanks for your post, saving me the effort caraher May 2012 #37
I can't even begin to imagine what your experiences hifiguy May 2012 #54
Hummmm "...500 days of flight deck experience...." panzerfaust May 2012 #44
USS Forrestal not Oriskany. Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #45
USS Forrestal (aka USS Fireball) NOT USS Oriskiney ... Might also mention panzerfaust May 2012 #43
Yeah. That was it. Exactly. It's a clear as the nose on the face of anyone ... 11 Bravo May 2012 #10
You are the owner of a finely-tuned Bullshit Detector. Ikonoklast May 2012 #14
Wasn't Obama like 5 when the Vietnam war was going? XemaSab May 2012 #13
No. Hissyspit May 2012 #17
Obama's family has veterans riverwalker May 2012 #20
Obama's grandfather served. James48 May 2012 #36
wow, that is the most non sequitur leap I've ever seen anyone take here. SemperEadem May 2012 #42
DUzy!! hifiguy May 2012 #4
agreed demtenjeep May 2012 #8
Yep! KT2000 May 2012 #15
No kidding!! Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #19
+1 treestar May 2012 #26
+1,000!! SunSeeker May 2012 #47
ROTFLMAO - You have a talent for names. Wife and I both laughing coalition_unwilling May 2012 #5
So funny! bluedeminredstate May 2012 #9
indeed ibegurpard May 2012 #11
OMG, what a douchebag--same smile and all! Thanks for the link! nt SunSeeker May 2012 #48
Interesting. Mitt forcibly assaulted a kid and gave him his version of a proper haircut riderinthestorm May 2012 #21
Great Names! CanonRay May 2012 #22
Tee-hee.Too true.Guess they all had other priorities. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #23
I don't see how that is a criticism. Vattel May 2012 #24
This relates to Mitt having held a kid down and cut his hair in prep school. Chorophyll May 2012 #41
My Dad used to say this is a "Do as I say, not as I do" n/t cr8tvlde May 2012 #25
k&r... spanone May 2012 #27
Well, I don't know what his sons' names are, liberalhistorian May 2012 #38
As for the Romneys: Meow meow! DinahMoeHum May 2012 #39
K and freaking R. Chorophyll May 2012 #40
Mitt: "My sons serve the country by getting me elected" DesertRat May 2012 #46
So true! FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #55
Well, just to set the record straight, I served with a cousin of Willard in 1974. HereSince1628 May 2012 #56
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