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247. I have been at the very bottom, I started there living in

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:17 PM

Jun 2015

the projects in Miami. I saw my first friend die before I was 13 & have been swarmed by the police with guns drawn & in our face's too many times to count. I sowed up my first bullet wound that was given to my friend a gift from a cop at 16. My first home with my son was a rental that I paid $300 a month for, we didn't go outside because of the shootings & random drug paraphernalia that could be found laying around.

Eventually I joined the military to get my kid's away from that shit & you know what, even living in a neighborhood where the homes were well over $200,000 my 9yr old got a shotgun pulled on him for walking on the curb so he wouldn't get hit by a car (even though the white kids cut through his yard regularly to get to the neighborhood pool).

My oldest is 17 we now live in a very economically & racially diverse neighborhood yet a moderately small city & my son's are hassled regularly by the cops. So while your opinion may differ some of us have vastly different views & experiences to back them up.

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They Dared Me to Post This... [View all] qwlauren35 Jun 2015 OP

Who are "they"? pintobean Jun 2015 #1

The Knights Templar Renew Deal Jun 2015 #2

Over in the African American Forum. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #27

I'll have to check it out. Stellar Jun 2015 #65

I don't post in that group. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #81

really? heaven05 Jun 2015 #49

It's nice to get an honest answer to an honest question pintobean Jun 2015 #54

the question is not honest heaven05 Jun 2015 #62

No, it is not. The snark is very obvious. yep randys1 Jun 2015 #181

Where's the personal attack? Octafish Jun 2015 #63

The op wasn't posted by Mr. Heaven05 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #74

That's great. pintobean and I don't approach conspiracy theory the same way. Octafish Jun 2015 #90

This isn't a conspiracy theory pintobean Jun 2015 #97

Thanks. I know. Octafish Jun 2015 #177

No, I haven't been active in threads like this. pintobean Jun 2015 #95

I posted this story here... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #3

Some times things are not what they seem. Once was setting on a small bench at the mall and a jwirr Jun 2015 #59

You can do the right thing and have it misinterpreted. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #61

Yes, that happens here on the reservation also. To some in the community we are all bad period. I jwirr Jun 2015 #67

Interesting points libodem Jun 2015 #4

I double dog dare you to respond to this. cali Jun 2015 #5

See you missed the point entirely... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #12

I did not miss the point. The OP is lacking knowledge and facts. cali Jun 2015 #17

No, what she is trying to say & even pointed out in her OP giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #21

This is very true. I truly believe the only way to change this is with education. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #98

Thank you for trying to teach the unteachable. Number23 Jun 2015 #224

Yet AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #380

I see your point. I just don't agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #32

There are rich POC who don't get treated any different than Trayvon or Brown or Garnet uponit7771 Jun 2015 #252

Well put. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #275

If they are indivisible, why have we spent the last couple of years hearing about BainsBane Jun 2015 #356

You really need to educate yourself. lonestarnot Jun 2015 #42

Maybe you should try listening to the POC on this forum giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #71

Hey, I am a white guy and I know better about Black people and issues than you Black people randys1 Jun 2015 #183

It's been a pretty rough thread, the whitesplaining has been strong. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #185

I get lectured by both the white and the well off, neither cares what I have to say. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #338

Dear goddess... sheshe2 Jun 2015 #216

Well at least they didn't say you people. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #217

Ooops, sorry posted twice. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jun 2015 #218

And not all POC speak for me TM99 Jun 2015 #231

I wasn't speaking for you, I was speaking for myself throughout giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #235

Actually, yes you have as have others. TM99 Jun 2015 #241

I have been at the very bottom, I started there living in giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #247

All you have done is agree with me TM99 Jun 2015 #258

Nobody said anything about being fiscally conservative. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #260

The last paragraph defense TM99 Jun 2015 #263

Exactly BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #253

Nor me WestCoastLib Jun 2015 #371

How dare she speak about what it's like to experience racism BainsBane Jun 2015 #372

Well you cannot change what is in people's hearts and minds zeemike Jun 2015 #259

Particularly when people at the bottom are hurting, racism is a useful wedge issue for Fox News GoneFishin Jun 2015 #277

I understand... unapatriciated Jun 2015 #261

Double Dog Dared. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #20

You really didn't address my points. And I've said over and over that cali Jun 2015 #24

Why did I need to address your points? qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #30

Let's agree to disagree. However, that 27% of black people are below the official cali Jun 2015 #34

But Cali, let's look at the statistics frazzled Jun 2015 #72

Thank you, this is an excellent post & relates very much giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #103

who is writing that off? cali Jun 2015 #109

+1 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #221

I'm only here to say thanks to those who are still trying. Number23 Jun 2015 #226

You are welcome, and thanks. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #229

It won't be acknowledged by some, but I appreciate your presence in this thread. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #376

The tea party recruited racists, but it's founders and financial backers have remained the same mountain grammy Jun 2015 #44

don't have to respond heaven05 Jun 2015 #52

And poverty gives the Rs "evidence" that they should cut programs that help to alleviate poverty. jwirr Jun 2015 #64

Thank you for providing some perspective 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #269

How many people in this thread BainsBane Jun 2015 #373

No more or less absurd than trying to muzzle someone's opinions 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #374

Muzzle someone because they are white? BainsBane Jun 2015 #375

It's ok to chew gum and ride a bike at the same time 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #381

True, you did not BainsBane Jun 2015 #385

I really appreciate your taking the time to discuss this 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #386

K&R for being absolutely right... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #6

anyone reccing this doesn't have a clue. cali Jun 2015 #10

Thank you for whitesplaining it to me Cali.... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #16

and thanks for trying to shut me up. Won't work. I do listen. Shockingly cali Jun 2015 #19

Ditto & I know who my allies are. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #22

But we didn't say it was unimportant. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #25

I really think that racial injustice is the main cause of economic injustice. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #60

good god, can't you give this tactic a rest? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #36

sorry, when someone announces on DU that poverty isn't a big issue cali Jun 2015 #38

You were attacking prior to the remark ^^^ Sheepshank Jun 2015 #58

Who has said poverty isn't a big issue? gollygee Jun 2015 #76

saying that poverty in the U.S. isn't the same as poverty in Africa and India cali Jun 2015 #84

I think she was trying to give her perspective and explain why she had it gollygee Jun 2015 #88

I am going to rec. based on your insightful responses. You got it damned straight! lonestarnot Jun 2015 #43

AA don't have a clue? They are reccing the OP. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #222

Sure you do as soon as we don't toe the line you want. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #345

No one said poverty wasn't an issue just it doesn't matter how much money is make PDs like Fergusons uponit7771 Jun 2015 #256

Cali...sorry, you didn't do your homework on this one.... Sancho Jun 2015 #354

K&R Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #7

So we should just drop concerns about corporatism and lack of regulation? el_bryanto Jun 2015 #8

No, just don't conflate getting rid of those 100% will end male POC being 21 time more likely to be uponit7771 Jun 2015 #257

"So there it is. Addressing economic injustice does not help black people who are part of the 1%" carolinayellowdog Jun 2015 #9

Liberal Democrats cannot be counted on to champion the cause of racial injustice. Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #11

Interesting. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48

Economic justice will result in more minorities moving into Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #13

Interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #68

It is a combination of the two. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #83

Who is downplaying racial injustice here? riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #14

Those saying that economic justice will bring social justice ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #70

I haven't seen that. If anything it's an argument that both are equally important riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #89

What does this mean to you? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #93

Especially when someone gollygee Jun 2015 #94

I would point to Elizabeth Warren whose locked in a battle with Wall St riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #96

The OP didn't de - couple anything, what she did was merely giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #107

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #111

Well when your skin isn't brown it may... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #115

Wait, something needs to be repeated a few thousand times randys1 Jun 2015 #188

Yes it does. What it doesn't do is reduce the difference to zero with a white person of the same TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #355

That is the problem, NO ONE is saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #108

+1000000000 giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #117

Uhm, the OP is about what's in her head and I don't dismiss that riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #124

So it's all in our heads? Thank you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #130

That's just bullshit. I was referring to her thoughts, not that she's fabricating things riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #144

What do we write, other than our thoughts? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #148

Exactly, 1Strong.. sad the way they play the victim card and insist they're being called "racists" Cha Jun 2015 #240

Becoming the kind of nation that consistently creates a net increase in economic justice... Orsino Jun 2015 #273

The great thing is, you do not have to choose. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #15

Good post (the original one) albeit reductionist Rafale Jun 2015 #18

Excellent post. It is unfortunate that one has to be concerned..... NCTraveler Jun 2015 #23

Reverend Barber heads the Moral Monday Movement in N.C., as I'm sure you know cali Jun 2015 #26

"And sorry, but saying that poverty isn't a big deal in the U.S. is a a horrifying claim. And false" NCTraveler Jun 2015 #28

"Poverty in America is not like poverty in Africa" - staggering privilege Prism Jun 2015 #29

That's exactly what I was thinking. historylovr Jun 2015 #41

You're right! qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #45

I agree with you Prism Jun 2015 #46

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #101

I get the feeling heaven05 Jun 2015 #99

I understand it just fine Prism Jun 2015 #106

well said heaven05 Jun 2015 #129

No, I do not. Prism Jun 2015 #132

Well done qw JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #31

I told her, I would have her back & as per the usual crowd giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #37

Or - that JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #73

Of course someone immediately had to start their own giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #75

And you post a link JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #77

Oh it's even better, they ignore the social justice aspect all together giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #86

That person is always like that JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #92

I've tried to explain the fact that once we leave our front porch giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #100

Ahh - it's 1978 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #152

Selfish & clueless, dude down thread just told me he's going to giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #159

I know - I responded too him JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #164

It's weird how many times my 17yr old has been pulled giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #168

White privilege on display like nowhere else, in these discussions. randys1 Jun 2015 #189

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST randys1 Jun 2015 #191

randy calm down my dear friend JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #214

LOL randys1 Jun 2015 #215

Aww tell your pops congrats... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #219

He was a good guy JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #225

Yeah a lot of us are like that. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #227

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #102

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #184

As stated in the most recent OP, "lets pretend racism is fixed" giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #186

"I wonder if they only like poor black people?" How much shit have the black posters on this site Number23 Jun 2015 #232

Yes I do! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #233

I've lived in a few countries and no matter where I go, I am STILL BLACK. I always will be. Number23 Jun 2015 #237

I hope everyone gives that OP and that particular poster the attention they so rightfully deserve Number23 Jun 2015 #228

That one died so they tried a new approach which I call giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #230

This is what you we all need to do, gg Number23 Jun 2015 #234

Lolololololol, right or this... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #328

I don't know, I've only been here for 2 years but from giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #333

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #353

Who would treat their workers right, if they don't have to treat them like human beings first? Rex Jun 2015 #33

^ women are also part of that equation. Economic injustice is gendered as well as racial. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #50

In a society where money is political speech, it seems obvious that the impoverished will be Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #91

I already see certain posters ignoring your last paragraph ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #35

You saw that! :-) qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #40

Your last paragraph was the ONLY part of your OP with which I disagree. ieoeja Jun 2015 #51

Yes there is. ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #53

Wrong JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #79

I had a few go arounds with that asshole myself. ieoeja Jun 2015 #110

Wait - aj90 was there too? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #155

there is a LOT heaven05 Jun 2015 #118

Even right on this thread JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #157

deep down, I think heaven05 Jun 2015 #192

I see it often bravenak Jun 2015 #244

K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #39

why the dare? heaven05 Jun 2015 #47

Kick for still being right & hitting the nail right on the head. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #55

One should not conflate championing economic injustice, as downplaying racial injustice. Glassunion Jun 2015 #56

Thanks for your post. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #69

Agreed. Glassunion Jun 2015 #87

This was beautiful - thanks~ JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #80

great post heaven05 Jun 2015 #104

.... Tree-Hugger Jun 2015 #143

This^^^ BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #196

Just read your reply TM99 Jun 2015 #243

"They do overlap, yet are separate from one another." Number23 Jun 2015 #265

On the other hand, it wouldn't have hurt. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #57

bravo Mr Dixon Jun 2015 #66

Sorry I posted in this thread, I will self-delete Dems to Win Jun 2015 #78

75% of African Americans JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #82

1+ ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #116

Yep, yep & yet these issues effect us regularly. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Jun 2015 #126

Oh what utter bullshit. The OP did no such thing, but if giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Jun 2015 #151

The OP said absolutely nothing about there not being poor giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #154

No it didn't - JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #163

The Koch Brothers Gave $25 Million to the United Negro College Fund Last Year JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #105

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #112

an important "tool" heaven05 Jun 2015 #114

Please ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #119

Way to completely miss the point of the OP. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #120

Minorities are not the only people being killed by police. WDIM Jun 2015 #113

Tell me ... How does economic injustice affect MY expressing racial injustices? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #121

Show me an example of racial injustice in the upper class WDIM Jun 2015 #125

Funny you mention Oprah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #128

And a homeless white woman would have worse treatment. WDIM Jun 2015 #134

Okayyyyy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #138

Equality is equality and racial equality has to have economic equality. WDIM Jun 2015 #142

Please don't exhibit your mis-understanding of Dr. MLK to me. Thank you. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #153

I still do not see what they see - how do you get economic justice without basic civil rights first? Rex Jun 2015 #158

How do you have basic civil rights without economic justice? WDIM Jun 2015 #165

No sadly a living wage is not a basic civil right, otherwise we would have one right? Rex Jun 2015 #166

Living wage is a civil right WDIM Jun 2015 #171

Show me which amendment deals with a living wage and I might agree with you. Rex Jun 2015 #173

Well that is your first problem Rights do not come from amendments. WDIM Jun 2015 #178

Nonsense, if there was no bill of rights we would have none in this country! Rex Jun 2015 #180

Rights are natural and exist above the laws. WDIM Jun 2015 #187

There used to not be any amendments. Amendments enumerate rights not create them. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #359

What good are basic civil rights?- says the guy that's got his. WOW bettyellen Jun 2015 #194

I give up. nt Rex Jun 2015 #198

One can't ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #167

It is strange imo. Rex Jun 2015 #169

But if you were poor you'd go to jail. WDIM Jun 2015 #174

So I am rich? Just because you need me to be to fit your narrative? Rex Jun 2015 #176

I didnt say rich WDIM Jun 2015 #182

To have true equality it does have to include racial equality. WDIM Jun 2015 #160

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #161

A white woman on welfare JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #150

How do you obtain economic equality, without having basic civil rights first? Rex Jun 2015 #156

Minorities are being killed in a disproportionate number... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #123

If they were poor too that risk would be even greater. WDIM Jun 2015 #127

Racial discrimination is the lowest you've seen in your lifetime? gollygee Jun 2015 #133

I agree they are symbiotic. WDIM Jun 2015 #136

Unfortunately gollygee Jun 2015 #139

and Economic injustice is ignored completely by most. WDIM Jun 2015 #145

Not here on DU gollygee Jun 2015 #146

That's because those who are being hurt are being used, and talk about economic equality would jtuck004 Jun 2015 #349

The 1% is not talking about racism at all gollygee Jun 2015 #351

Most white folk aren't talking about it at all, whether 1% or the rest. If it was just 1%, only jtuck004 Jun 2015 #352

hmmm - not sure JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #147

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #197

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #249

that third and fourth paragraph??????? heaven05 Jun 2015 #201

Serious Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #204

you just really heaven05 Jun 2015 #209

Ive worked store security WDIM Jun 2015 #255

if you say so heaven05 Jun 2015 #358

Males of Color are 21 times more likely to be shot by police even though whites have more guns per uponit7771 Jun 2015 #248

I don't post about this much ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #131

It is very brave of you to share this. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #140

... ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #202

Thank you for posting this.... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #162

I hope so ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #203

you got my respect heaven05 Jun 2015 #195

Thank you kindly ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #205

Baloney. Orsino Jun 2015 #135

You may not be able to, but we POC can which is why the OP giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #137

Echoing giftedgirl JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #149

Excellent point. HornBuckler Jun 2015 #170

Yeah. Rather than tweaking these situations, economic justice would likely have prevented them... Orsino Jun 2015 #190

easy statement(s) heaven05 Jun 2015 #193

But we will never know, as an "economically just" world is so ill-defined ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #211

Sigh, there are rich POC who are treated no different than Trayvon or Brown or Garner ... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #250

Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #271

But what if we define economic justice more broadly than simple income equality? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #172

You make a good point here - but try this . . . JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #272

Oh, I agree with that completely. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #366

I'd agree! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #367

And if we take a look on the opposite side of that coin... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #368

Amen!!!! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #369

But it does help you to hire a lawyer and bring people to justice. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #175

I hope you're being sarcastic? bettyellen Jun 2015 #200

Best post of the year? I think so randys1 Jun 2015 #179

damn good!!!! heaven05 Jun 2015 #199

You wish to divide us? Okay, go with that then. See if that furthers your cause. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #206

Not everybody does. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #212

Thank you so much for taking "the dare". Getting them to understand that the two are not the same.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #207

How about those of us who are fighting for both? BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #208

Working for both is great. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #210

I have never expected anyone to fight for my rights BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #213

gw has a great OP heaven05 Jun 2015 #246

If the OP wanted to make her point without the swipe at lower class people of color BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #251

I didn't see ignoring the situation for the less fortunate by op JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #276

sorry heaven05 Jun 2015 #357

"Liberal Democrats cannot be counted on to champion the cause of racial injustice." Number23 Jun 2015 #223

Thoughts On THIS ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #238

That it's clear you totally ignored her last paragraph which addresses giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #254

OP responded to that pretty well in the OP Recursion Jun 2015 #267

Willy T, I think you misstated the original post here. lovemydog Jun 2015 #270

You posted that 4 times but you don't seem to even bother to read the OP you respond to. What does Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #283

Well done. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #239

Excellent OP, qwlauren.. thank you for posting! Cha Jun 2015 #242

Great op bravenak Jun 2015 #245

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #262

Neither side is wrong in this debate. RichVRichV Jun 2015 #264

Yes, one "side" is definitely wrong. stevenleser Jun 2015 #279

Are you being obtuse? RichVRichV Jun 2015 #347

This turned out to be a very important thread Recursion Jun 2015 #266

K & R lovemydog Jun 2015 #268

Bernie Sanders was a SNCC organizer back when SNCC organizers were being KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #274

OP didn't mention any candidate first of all. Second, Joe Lieberman marched with MLK stevenleser Jun 2015 #280

Righteo. The corner that attacks women who've lost children has now KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #281

That's some sort of code I am supposed to understand? stevenleser Jun 2015 #282

You wrote it. You own it. IMO, the Admins should have banned you KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #284

Ah, at least I know what you are talking about now. Except that's not what happened at all stevenleser Jun 2015 #285

We all know how you work. You try to bait people into doing or saying something KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #286

If that's true, complain to admins. But they have already said no one has done that stevenleser Jun 2015 #289

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #301

So many other posters don't take it that way either treestar Jun 2015 #320

And of course it's no coincidence that these people had issues with me before this stevenleser Jun 2015 #323

No unbiased person would. They have an agenda and are mischaracterizing my post to serve it. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #343

. Rex Jun 2015 #327

Oh so you hope the jurors are not objective treestar Jun 2015 #319

Anyone who read can see what happened there demwing Jun 2015 #287

Yes they can, and it confirms my version of events. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #288

cool opinion bro, but not everyone agrees /nt demwing Jun 2015 #303

Only folks who fight with me all the time about issues and candidates, like you, see it your way. stevenleser Jun 2015 #335

SL was referencing her claim she would post a link treestar Jun 2015 #302

He did a ROFL when she stated immediately above that she lost her child. As Bonobo put it, he's KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #305

Why did she post that? treestar Jun 2015 #308

He was responding to a post where she claimed she had lost her own child. With KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #312

No it was to her claim about posting links treestar Jun 2015 #318

Bonobo? I have that poster on ignore for years now. They are still following me around attacking me? stevenleser Jun 2015 #362

Shit that gets posted online stays online demwing Jun 2015 #290

No, it didn't. That is not what happened. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #291

I am so surprised a poster who has had issues with me for years decides to believe this incorrect stevenleser Jun 2015 #292

I really don't give a fuck. He should have been banned for that shit, since what he did KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #293

No he wasn't addressing her personal issues. Sorry but you are reaching here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #295

See, in the Hillary-verse, it's perfectly OK to laugh at the death of a child or to KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #306

oh lord! I can see what you are doing and i am not going to bother trying to convince you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #310

Yep, it's obvious. These folks have been at me for years and now are inventing something stevenleser Jun 2015 #325

Yes it is. Don't pay too much attention to your detractors. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #326

But it was not addressed to that, as is obvious treestar Jun 2015 #346

Exactly correct. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #331

see my PM /nt demwing Jun 2015 #298

Spell out what you think he did. You are making this accusation then back it up. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #299

LOL treestar Jun 2015 #332

So now we see the real issue. Bernie supporters are upset that SKP was banned and want blood from stevenleser Jun 2015 #337

I respect you sir Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #339

I think we can have an honest disagreement about that. But the attempt at retribution at me for it stevenleser Jun 2015 #340

Retribution should not be acceptable Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #341

Poor Bernie supporters! treestar Jun 2015 #321

Steve was not making fun of her situation. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #294

Um, yeah he should - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #296

It looks to me you are purposely misreading his post. Very dishonest on your part. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #297

Calling another DUer dishonest because he doesnt square with your opinion? demwing Jun 2015 #300

Spell out how Steve attacked her about her past. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #304

Spell out where I say he did? demwing Jun 2015 #309

Yet he was not the one who got hidden posts. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #311

Lol, apparently some people like posts that are steaming piles of crap! demwing Jun 2015 #314

Or people can see what is really going on here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #315

Again, some people see it your way, and others see it differently demwing Jun 2015 #316

Just defending someone from false accusations. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #317

Yes it was her post that was hidden ironically treestar Jun 2015 #329

i can not speak to her history but i think the hide speaks for itself. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #330

It is dishonest to use the laughing smilie treestar Jun 2015 #324

Yes it is dishonest. It speaks to how weak they believe their positions are that they resort to this stevenleser Jun 2015 #334

Ugh. Get some context, dude. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #344

I was asked to weigh in here BainsBane Jun 2015 #348

I can't believe you came into this thread of ALL THREADS with this petty bullshit Number23 Jun 2015 #360

Some folks don't realize when they try to attack other people they are in fact saying stevenleser Jun 2015 #361

Not ahistorical shit. It's one thing to march up and down the street, it's another to let jtuck004 Jun 2015 #350

K&R stevenleser Jun 2015 #278

Overt and unconscious racism and sexism are the reasions why peole of color Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #307

K&R. There's a "joke" by a black comedian (whose name is escaping me...)... YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #313

I think They should dare you to post in GD more often! Rex Jun 2015 #322

Thank You stevil Jun 2015 #336

^up Solly Mack Jun 2015 #342

K&R KMOD Jun 2015 #363

I don't believe anyone is saying that economic justice will fix social injustices. cui bono Jun 2015 #364

I'm going to agree to disagree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #365

For those who keep misstating what the original post says: stop it. lovemydog Jun 2015 #370

Saw this a couple of days ago. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #377

I don't see anyone saying social justice isn't as important as anything marym625 Jun 2015 #378

Actually, economic justice might have meant Trayvon Martin would still be alive Warpy Jun 2015 #379

I don't agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #382

False choices are appealing to a lot of people Warpy Jun 2015 #383

I guess we're all stupid. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #384