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JonLP24

(29,929 posts)
28. Blackouts are incredibly scary
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015

I'll drink every now and then but it isn't something I ever prefer to do that and it was the not remembering what I was doing while I blacked out several years ago that led me to pretty much completely stop. I was afraid that I could get into a car or something kill me or someone else and sitting in prison over something I didn't remember doing.

I appreciate your posts in this thread, I've known of examples where some take advantage of the power whether that be a PO or an employer of their ability to revoke them but even without that the parole rules are very stingy. You may like this though I imagine you already know all this stuff

Why It Might Be Time To Rethink The Rules Of Parole

“I don’t think everyone coming out of prison needs to be supervised,” said Brian Fischer, former commissioner of the New York State Department of Corrections and Community Supervision. In this hypothetical scenario, “the likelihood of recidivism is zero,” he said. “Why do we need to restrict him?”

Parole conditions vary widely from state to state and case to case. As states attempt to reduce their prison populations, and as the number of parolees grows — now up to more than 851,000 people nationally — advocates are increasingly concerned that parole rules can be too restrictive for the average parolee, making it too easy to end up behind bars again for technical violations.1 As states contend with the high cost of incarceration and use parole to cut costs, advocates are calling for consistency in how it’s deployed.

Some restrictions seem practical (“complying with all laws”), while others seem nearly impossible to follow (“abandon evil associates and ways”). Other times, they run counter to mainstream culture; states including Kansas, Kentucky and Hawaii prevent parolees from drinking alcohol and going into bars.2 Also, enforcement of these rules varies from parole agent to parole agent.

“Most of us could not live under the rules of parole because there are too many of them,” Fischer said.

Certain behaviors that break a law, and therefore also violate parole terms, are fairly common in the general public. In 2013, 19.8 million adults were current marijuana users, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Almost half of drivers say they keep up with faster, often speeding traffic. About 660,000 people used a cellphone while driving in 2011, which potentially breaks the law in at least 44 states. Not only do these actions violate parole, they delay the reentry process, especially if a parolee found in violation is sent to a treatment facility or county jail, which costs taxpayers money.3

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-it-might-be-time-to-rethink-the-rules-of-parole/

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Of course it's a false dilemma, and reducing present... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #1
I think nobody has any idea what would happen if we returned to sane incarceration levels Recursion Jun 2015 #3
Well, we are dealing with hypotheticals here... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #6
Themistocles had a quote about empires Recursion Jun 2015 #7
CA has been doing early jail release. joshcryer Jun 2015 #10
How's it gone? (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #11
Pretty damn well, lowest crime since 1967. joshcryer Jun 2015 #16
Depends on the time frame. MH1 Jun 2015 #29
I think in marketing/business terms... Wounded Bear Jun 2015 #30
But it's not really captive, some of us only think we are. MH1 Jun 2015 #33
If the hypothetical scenario means that 2x as many violent criminals are locked up no... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #2
Two points Recursion Jun 2015 #4
No that would be a stupid trade Kalidurga Jun 2015 #5
The needs of the many, etc, etc. joshcryer Jun 2015 #8
OK, let's run with "needs of the many" -- are more people harmed by mass incarceration Recursion Jun 2015 #9
Violent crime. joshcryer Jun 2015 #12
Most of them *were* non-violent when they went in (nt) Recursion Jun 2015 #14
And this transformation into violent people is something you are asserting without evidence. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #24
To say what? That some non-violent offenders become violent in prison? Recursion Jun 2015 #25
I think the reason there are so many people in prison now Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #13
We absolutely do, and we need to control prison violence Recursion Jun 2015 #15
I know of someone formerly close to me Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #17
Thanks. This: JDPriestly Jun 2015 #21
It's really terrible. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #23
Blackouts are incredibly scary JonLP24 Jun 2015 #28
Agree 100%. And as a society we often push alcohol on people. Chathamization Jun 2015 #46
I voted yes on principle ... ucrdem Jun 2015 #18
I agree. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #19
This presents a false choice. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #20
Thanks for repeating my first sentence Recursion Jun 2015 #22
Some of the responses to this thread make me cry. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #36
Sadly, you're right Recursion Jun 2015 #37
I'm sure not what the point is to this JonLP24 Jun 2015 #26
Ridiculous. 99Forever Jun 2015 #27
Yes, it very much is. It forces people to think beyond their comfort zones. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #42
No sir. 99Forever Jun 2015 #48
I would assume that GPS monitoring technology is better today than in 1992. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #31
Can we expect crime levels like in Baltimore? Calista241 Jun 2015 #32
I was thinking of something very similar JonLP24 Jun 2015 #44
"Is it better to spend a year in prison, or to be the victim of one violent crime"? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #34
Right? I think that symmetry is kind of chilling Recursion Jun 2015 #35
I don't find it's chilling, because I doubt it's more than a coincidence. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #38
True. They also have much higher tax rates and higher social spending Recursion Jun 2015 #39
Relevant, but far from the whole picture. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #40
Or you're looking at the wrong thing kcr Jun 2015 #41
This is my favorite part JonLP24 Jun 2015 #47
This year has revealed some police departments don't like investigating rape JonLP24 Jun 2015 #45
Yes with the caveat that we need to focus on rehabilitation davidpdx Jun 2015 #43
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