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Retrograde

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10. You mentioned it in your post

Sat May 12, 2012, 02:02 PM

May 2012

It's about control: despite the Jesuits the traditional Church does not like people to think for themselves. I think this dates back to the time when the local priest was the only (barely) educated person in the village, and people were expected to look to him as being superior. This doesn't work when the parishioners are also educated, and especially when they live in a society that stresses equality. Requiring people to take these classes before getting married in a Catholic church is one of the few remaining ways they can exert control over lapsed Catholics and non-Catholics who want to please their families.

The pre-marital classes are the main reason we chose not to be married in a church almost 40 years ago.

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My husband and I were married in the Catholic church; our civil marriage was NOT RECOGNIZED [View all] K8-EEE May 2012 OP

Did you have to pay for those classes? MADem May 2012 #1

Hmmm.....I don't think so. K8-EEE May 2012 #4

That sounds like an excellent class - too many dioceses hedgehog May 2012 #7

My daughter and her husband were married in the 1980s RebelOne May 2012 #2

The irony is that the husband will now have to get an annullment hedgehog May 2012 #8

Personally, I would never have done the classes in the first place. alarimer May 2012 #22

The Reichwing religionists are vying for control of the theocracy they are creating state by state freshwest May 2012 #3

Those classes are called Pre Cana and I will tell you this much I went through them. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #5

You are onto something there tabbycat31 May 2012 #14

Yes that would be good. But I tell you the Pre Cana classes are really good and everyone should southernyankeebelle May 2012 #17

It's the one-size-fits-all approach I have a problem with Retrograde May 2012 #25

Chile and Italy also do this. Civil marriage is the legal one. Religious is the sacramental one. SharonAnn May 2012 #27

Precisely. rug May 2012 #6

I don't like having to defend the Catholic Church but your story shows they are being snagglepuss May 2012 #9

You mentioned it in your post Retrograde May 2012 #10

LOL. Since the government, and not the RCC hifiguy May 2012 #11

Why we need a complete separation of church state nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #12

I am for the separation of church and hate ashling May 2012 #20

the catholic church does not recognize my marriage; I do not recognize the catholic church rurallib May 2012 #13

"Return" as in rejoin? Ilsa May 2012 #18

yeah - rejoin rurallib May 2012 #21

I don't blame you for being pissed. Ilsa May 2012 #26

Well, my parents were both dead by the time I was 25 rurallib May 2012 #29

This is what's good about that whole separation of church and state stuff.... wandy May 2012 #15

Why did you not tell the RCC to attempt aerial fornication? PavePusher May 2012 #16

Melodie and I were married ashling May 2012 #19

Simply because they have you and me looking at this "christian man and woman thing" rustydog May 2012 #23

Marriage is a sacrament of the church RB TexLa May 2012 #24

My thought to that would be that if my marriage didn't count then their opinion jp11 May 2012 #28

I choose to worship Thor tabasco May 2012 #30