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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:21 PM Jun 2015

I gotta make a point about language and issues [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Sabrina has made the point, and I have observed the same. You cannot really have a discussion here about ISSUES. You really cannot deal in this place with real policy issues. That is a fact.

People spend a LLLLOOOOTTT of time on things like shitty novels, and the use of a WORD.

Some of us would like to talk policy in the depth some do here over a so called novel.

Over the last few years I have spent my time with people who are actually affected by things like pay, unequal pay, getting enough hours at work, what WELFARE REFORM has done to them, childcare, or more precisely lack of it. There are other issues that matter to these folks, including rape in the workplace, not just in the armed forces. Trust me, a word is not at the top of the list. Not even near the middle to be exact. It is the kind of things parents tell children you do not use.

Posts on policy sink like a rock. Why? There is no obvious interest in those things.

We have two main tribes regarding issues that affect working people, including minorities and women. One is concerned mostly about language (which matters, but not as much as you think), and the other group that deals with issues, including the ERA.

Not that it matters to me. I really don't give a shit about the reputation this place has as far as policy discussion in other places of the web. It is not my concern. Suffice it to say, when it comes to issue centered discussions, it is not that good. In fact, it is pretty bad.

And yes, we have to watch what we say and what we do... becuase of a small, but very loud clique.

And I must say today we saw far more evidence of that war between two major tribes and several sub groups. It makes taking this place seriously even less likely.



I expect this to be locked, par for the course. It is what it is... it is DU and very predictable as well.

I am honored to know labor leaders, strong women, who do fight the fight and walk the walk. They are the real people doing the real fight. I am honored to know leaders in education who also talk the talk and walk the walk. Those are real flesh and blood folks.

I am honored to know mothers, taking on the judicial system, to save their kids from mass incarceration. They walk the walk and talk the talk.

And I concluded this place is NOT a place to talk budgets, which are economic and political documents. It is also not the place to talk infrastructure... or for that matter issues of war and peace.

Now I return myself to the elections in Mexico... where we already have had one municipality anul the elections, and we are not even at midday to the end of the election. Not that I expect many here to care, and those who do, like me, find alternate sources. DU is not, hardly anymore, a good source for foreign news. That is by design. It is not a bug, as I tell myself often, but a feature.

As to those who were insulted by the PSA regarding the movie Spy, I mean it, if you get easily offended by language do NOT watch it. It has plenty of it. It is a good comedy, but.

Have an excellent day.


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I agree. H2O Man Jun 2015 #1
Reminds me of this... kentuck Jun 2015 #2
Very good! H2O Man Jun 2015 #3
I am often average. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #39
Totally agree. jwirr Jun 2015 #4
Yup. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #5
Thank you for spending so much time here at DU zappaman Jun 2015 #6
Lovely personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #9
No, it's just an observation. zappaman Jun 2015 #12
That was nasty. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #31
Whoops. Evidence purge. nt Codeine Jun 2015 #33
That's a nasty post especially for someone always condemning bullying. tammywammy Jun 2015 #36
It's been blocked. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #40
Frank had this to say... bluesbassman Jun 2015 #16
mmm hmm PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #19
K&R! marym625 Jun 2015 #7
"some of us" treestar Jun 2015 #8
Your recent hidden post was about language pintobean Jun 2015 #10
For someone who doesn't like to spend a lot of time discussing language and certain words gollygee Jun 2015 #11
Anul? BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #13
Rather curios. pintobean Jun 2015 #15
+1000 hobbit709 Jun 2015 #14
Well, there's the door. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #17
I agree. I tried have a policy debate the other day and was Exilednight Jun 2015 #18
I challenge your notion that there are two "tribes" here as you described. Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #20
You are correct nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #24
Yes. Thanks. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #34
I sometimes forget how much smarter and better you are than the rest of us, Codeine Jun 2015 #21
I am sorry you feel you need to take it that way nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #27
And miss all that wisdom?! Codeine Jun 2015 #30
lol PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #29
Sure you can. There will be attempts to derail the conversation, but they don't have to succeed. Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #22
hmmm mercuryblues Jun 2015 #23
Don't. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #25
Don't what? mercuryblues Jun 2015 #35
But whining about image and perception ARE policy issues! DRoseDARs Jun 2015 #26
I'm sorry you waste your time on such a "crappy" place to be demtenjeep Jun 2015 #28
Absolutely Zamen Jun 2015 #32
You are correct, Nadin. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #37
If it's not controversial qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #38
Locking... one_voice Jun 2015 #41
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