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Scootaloo

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49. Too bad that's not my argument, Geek. But nice straw man

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:40 AM

Jun 2015

It needs to be elective, decided by the individual in question, just like any other body modification. It's an issue of consent.

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No one should be cut against his/her stated wishes SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #1

The background is a couple using their 4yo son as a political football during a messy divorce Recursion Jun 2015 #2

Well, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #3

Circumcised men are not 'mutilated' nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #4

If you say so. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #5

I do. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #6

Just for the record, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #7

Yes they are. The procedure results in irreparable damage Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #14

"Irreparable damage" geek tragedy Jun 2015 #16

Please tell me your procedure for bringing that foreskin back. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #22

No damage. Had they removed my appendix I would feel the same way. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #28

Haha, laugh it up. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #56

I'm not so much "anti-circumcision"... Scootaloo Jun 2015 #8

I have more sympathy to that view Recursion Jun 2015 #9

Link? (Not being snarky, seriously interested) nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #11

Here you go Recursion Jun 2015 #12

"high HIV and low male circumcision prevalence" joshcryer Jun 2015 #23

Yeah, the issue is the age not the merits of the procedure. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #34

Here's one Lancero Jun 2015 #13

I don't think that's a very valid argument Scootaloo Jun 2015 #15

Asdf geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18

And when performed on an adult, there is consent from the person receiving the procedure Scootaloo Jun 2015 #21

As is the case for all medical decisions regarding kids. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #25

Foreskins are not an airborne communicable disease with high infant mortality Scootaloo Jun 2015 #27

Parents make medical decisions for their kids. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35

Rubella is a childhood disease, caught and transmitted by infant and toddlers Scootaloo Jun 2015 #40

Toddlers grow up to be adults with sex lives. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #41

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #44

I will go with what pediatricians recommend. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #46

And I will go with what ethics demand Scootaloo Jun 2015 #51

Cervical cancer rates were known to be much lower among people with historically higher circumcision Hekate Jun 2015 #30

We are Catholic - both 840high Jun 2015 #54

Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #10

The decision is pretty much made one way or the other by the parent. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #17

And the person with the foreskin can have it removed if he wants to Scootaloo Jun 2015 #19

It's a much more difficult, complicated, and painful procedure for an adult. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #20

And the adult will be weighing those benefits and risks and coming to his own decision Scootaloo Jun 2015 #24

Nice academic argument, but not one that has much meaning to geek tragedy Jun 2015 #26

If you want it done, you can have it done Scootaloo Jun 2015 #32

Again, illusory choice. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #33

All cosmetic surgery hurts and requires some psychological adaptation Scootaloo Jun 2015 #36

It's not cosmetic surgery. There are clear public health benefits geek tragedy Jun 2015 #37

It is cosmetic surgery, Geek Scootaloo Jun 2015 #42

And if they never had non-monogamous sex at all there would be zero STDs! geek tragedy Jun 2015 #45

Too bad that's not my argument, Geek. But nice straw man Scootaloo Jun 2015 #49

I've been told informed consent is an important part of medical ethics Dragonfli Jun 2015 #29

I don't know the details, but the fact that he is being used by two parents davidpdx Jun 2015 #47

You state that you are not sure of the accuracy of this info, but we should all contact the hospital Hekate Jun 2015 #31

Not sure DOXing is what DU wants to be known for. This should be deleted or hidden. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #38

Not sure what DOXing is...? Hekate Jun 2015 #39

Here Bonobo Jun 2015 #43

Ah yes, Internet stalking is a well known technique among anti-choice terrorists. They like to... Hekate Jun 2015 #48

I did. Bonobo Jun 2015 #50

Good call Hekate Jun 2015 #52

I think the "circumcised men are mutilated" angle is particularly bad. Bonobo Jun 2015 #53

I can't understand the human obsession with altering and mutilating genitalia. underahedgerow Jun 2015 #55