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379. Actually, economic justice might have meant Trayvon Martin would still be alive

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 01:52 PM

Jun 2015

The lack of it caused Zimmerman to assume that Martin was an intruder from a poor neighborhood, an outsider who was likely up to no good, because without economic justice, no one with black skin could possibly afford to live in a nice area.

Racism is also classism, everybody with black skin automatically clicked into the underclass of welfare families, criminals, and people who do the worst work for the least money. It doesn't matter if they're wearing tailored suits with shoes that represent two months of a cop's pay. If they're black, they're poor. And if they're poor, they're up to no good.

You can't have one without the other. If you have no economic justice, you will have no social justice. If you have no social justice, you have no hope of economic justice.

This whole debate has been a stupid one. The two things are inextricably intertwined.

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They Dared Me to Post This... [View all] qwlauren35 Jun 2015 OP

Who are "they"? pintobean Jun 2015 #1

The Knights Templar Renew Deal Jun 2015 #2

Over in the African American Forum. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #27

I'll have to check it out. Stellar Jun 2015 #65

I don't post in that group. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #81

really? heaven05 Jun 2015 #49

It's nice to get an honest answer to an honest question pintobean Jun 2015 #54

the question is not honest heaven05 Jun 2015 #62

No, it is not. The snark is very obvious. yep randys1 Jun 2015 #181

Where's the personal attack? Octafish Jun 2015 #63

The op wasn't posted by Mr. Heaven05 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #74

That's great. pintobean and I don't approach conspiracy theory the same way. Octafish Jun 2015 #90

This isn't a conspiracy theory pintobean Jun 2015 #97

Thanks. I know. Octafish Jun 2015 #177

No, I haven't been active in threads like this. pintobean Jun 2015 #95

I posted this story here... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #3

Some times things are not what they seem. Once was setting on a small bench at the mall and a jwirr Jun 2015 #59

You can do the right thing and have it misinterpreted. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #61

Yes, that happens here on the reservation also. To some in the community we are all bad period. I jwirr Jun 2015 #67

Interesting points libodem Jun 2015 #4

I double dog dare you to respond to this. cali Jun 2015 #5

See you missed the point entirely... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #12

I did not miss the point. The OP is lacking knowledge and facts. cali Jun 2015 #17

No, what she is trying to say & even pointed out in her OP giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #21

This is very true. I truly believe the only way to change this is with education. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #98

Thank you for trying to teach the unteachable. Number23 Jun 2015 #224

Yet AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #380

I see your point. I just don't agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #32

There are rich POC who don't get treated any different than Trayvon or Brown or Garnet uponit7771 Jun 2015 #252

Well put. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #275

If they are indivisible, why have we spent the last couple of years hearing about BainsBane Jun 2015 #356

You really need to educate yourself. lonestarnot Jun 2015 #42

Maybe you should try listening to the POC on this forum giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #71

Hey, I am a white guy and I know better about Black people and issues than you Black people randys1 Jun 2015 #183

It's been a pretty rough thread, the whitesplaining has been strong. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #185

I get lectured by both the white and the well off, neither cares what I have to say. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #338

Dear goddess... sheshe2 Jun 2015 #216

Well at least they didn't say you people. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #217

Ooops, sorry posted twice. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jun 2015 #218

And not all POC speak for me TM99 Jun 2015 #231

I wasn't speaking for you, I was speaking for myself throughout giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #235

Actually, yes you have as have others. TM99 Jun 2015 #241

I have been at the very bottom, I started there living in giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #247

All you have done is agree with me TM99 Jun 2015 #258

Nobody said anything about being fiscally conservative. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #260

The last paragraph defense TM99 Jun 2015 #263

Exactly BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #253

Nor me WestCoastLib Jun 2015 #371

How dare she speak about what it's like to experience racism BainsBane Jun 2015 #372

Well you cannot change what is in people's hearts and minds zeemike Jun 2015 #259

Particularly when people at the bottom are hurting, racism is a useful wedge issue for Fox News GoneFishin Jun 2015 #277

I understand... unapatriciated Jun 2015 #261

Double Dog Dared. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #20

You really didn't address my points. And I've said over and over that cali Jun 2015 #24

Why did I need to address your points? qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #30

Let's agree to disagree. However, that 27% of black people are below the official cali Jun 2015 #34

But Cali, let's look at the statistics frazzled Jun 2015 #72

Thank you, this is an excellent post & relates very much giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #103

who is writing that off? cali Jun 2015 #109

+1 sheshe2 Jun 2015 #221

I'm only here to say thanks to those who are still trying. Number23 Jun 2015 #226

You are welcome, and thanks. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #229

It won't be acknowledged by some, but I appreciate your presence in this thread. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #376

The tea party recruited racists, but it's founders and financial backers have remained the same mountain grammy Jun 2015 #44

don't have to respond heaven05 Jun 2015 #52

And poverty gives the Rs "evidence" that they should cut programs that help to alleviate poverty. jwirr Jun 2015 #64

Thank you for providing some perspective 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #269

How many people in this thread BainsBane Jun 2015 #373

No more or less absurd than trying to muzzle someone's opinions 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #374

Muzzle someone because they are white? BainsBane Jun 2015 #375

It's ok to chew gum and ride a bike at the same time 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #381

True, you did not BainsBane Jun 2015 #385

I really appreciate your taking the time to discuss this 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #386

K&R for being absolutely right... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #6

anyone reccing this doesn't have a clue. cali Jun 2015 #10

Thank you for whitesplaining it to me Cali.... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #16

and thanks for trying to shut me up. Won't work. I do listen. Shockingly cali Jun 2015 #19

Ditto & I know who my allies are. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #22

But we didn't say it was unimportant. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #25

I really think that racial injustice is the main cause of economic injustice. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #60

good god, can't you give this tactic a rest? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #36

sorry, when someone announces on DU that poverty isn't a big issue cali Jun 2015 #38

You were attacking prior to the remark ^^^ Sheepshank Jun 2015 #58

Who has said poverty isn't a big issue? gollygee Jun 2015 #76

saying that poverty in the U.S. isn't the same as poverty in Africa and India cali Jun 2015 #84

I think she was trying to give her perspective and explain why she had it gollygee Jun 2015 #88

I am going to rec. based on your insightful responses. You got it damned straight! lonestarnot Jun 2015 #43

AA don't have a clue? They are reccing the OP. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #222

Sure you do as soon as we don't toe the line you want. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #345

No one said poverty wasn't an issue just it doesn't matter how much money is make PDs like Fergusons uponit7771 Jun 2015 #256

Cali...sorry, you didn't do your homework on this one.... Sancho Jun 2015 #354

K&R Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #7

So we should just drop concerns about corporatism and lack of regulation? el_bryanto Jun 2015 #8

No, just don't conflate getting rid of those 100% will end male POC being 21 time more likely to be uponit7771 Jun 2015 #257

"So there it is. Addressing economic injustice does not help black people who are part of the 1%" carolinayellowdog Jun 2015 #9

Liberal Democrats cannot be counted on to champion the cause of racial injustice. Ichingcarpenter Jun 2015 #11

Interesting. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #48

Economic justice will result in more minorities moving into Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #13

Interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #68

It is a combination of the two. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #83

Who is downplaying racial injustice here? riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #14

Those saying that economic justice will bring social justice ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #70

I haven't seen that. If anything it's an argument that both are equally important riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #89

What does this mean to you? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #93

Especially when someone gollygee Jun 2015 #94

I would point to Elizabeth Warren whose locked in a battle with Wall St riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #96

The OP didn't de - couple anything, what she did was merely giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #107

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #111

Well when your skin isn't brown it may... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #115

Wait, something needs to be repeated a few thousand times randys1 Jun 2015 #188

Yes it does. What it doesn't do is reduce the difference to zero with a white person of the same TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #355

That is the problem, NO ONE is saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #108

+1000000000 giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #117

Uhm, the OP is about what's in her head and I don't dismiss that riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #124

So it's all in our heads? Thank you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #130

That's just bullshit. I was referring to her thoughts, not that she's fabricating things riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #144

What do we write, other than our thoughts? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #148

Exactly, 1Strong.. sad the way they play the victim card and insist they're being called "racists" Cha Jun 2015 #240

Becoming the kind of nation that consistently creates a net increase in economic justice... Orsino Jun 2015 #273

The great thing is, you do not have to choose. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #15

Good post (the original one) albeit reductionist Rafale Jun 2015 #18

Excellent post. It is unfortunate that one has to be concerned..... NCTraveler Jun 2015 #23

Reverend Barber heads the Moral Monday Movement in N.C., as I'm sure you know cali Jun 2015 #26

"And sorry, but saying that poverty isn't a big deal in the U.S. is a a horrifying claim. And false" NCTraveler Jun 2015 #28

"Poverty in America is not like poverty in Africa" - staggering privilege Prism Jun 2015 #29

That's exactly what I was thinking. historylovr Jun 2015 #41

You're right! qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #45

I agree with you Prism Jun 2015 #46

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #101

I get the feeling heaven05 Jun 2015 #99

I understand it just fine Prism Jun 2015 #106

well said heaven05 Jun 2015 #129

No, I do not. Prism Jun 2015 #132

Well done qw JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #31

I told her, I would have her back & as per the usual crowd giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #37

Or - that JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #73

Of course someone immediately had to start their own giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #75

And you post a link JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #77

Oh it's even better, they ignore the social justice aspect all together giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #86

That person is always like that JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #92

I've tried to explain the fact that once we leave our front porch giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #100

Ahh - it's 1978 JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #152

Selfish & clueless, dude down thread just told me he's going to giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #159

I know - I responded too him JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #164

It's weird how many times my 17yr old has been pulled giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #168

White privilege on display like nowhere else, in these discussions. randys1 Jun 2015 #189

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST randys1 Jun 2015 #191

randy calm down my dear friend JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #214

LOL randys1 Jun 2015 #215

Aww tell your pops congrats... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #219

He was a good guy JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #225

Yeah a lot of us are like that. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #227

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #102

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #184

As stated in the most recent OP, "lets pretend racism is fixed" giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #186

"I wonder if they only like poor black people?" How much shit have the black posters on this site Number23 Jun 2015 #232

Yes I do! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #233

I've lived in a few countries and no matter where I go, I am STILL BLACK. I always will be. Number23 Jun 2015 #237

I hope everyone gives that OP and that particular poster the attention they so rightfully deserve Number23 Jun 2015 #228

That one died so they tried a new approach which I call giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #230

This is what you we all need to do, gg Number23 Jun 2015 #234

Lolololololol, right or this... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #328

I don't know, I've only been here for 2 years but from giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #333

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2015 #353

Who would treat their workers right, if they don't have to treat them like human beings first? Rex Jun 2015 #33

^ women are also part of that equation. Economic injustice is gendered as well as racial. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #50

In a society where money is political speech, it seems obvious that the impoverished will be Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #91

I already see certain posters ignoring your last paragraph ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #35

You saw that! :-) qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #40

Your last paragraph was the ONLY part of your OP with which I disagree. ieoeja Jun 2015 #51

Yes there is. ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #53

Wrong JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #79

I had a few go arounds with that asshole myself. ieoeja Jun 2015 #110

Wait - aj90 was there too? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #155

there is a LOT heaven05 Jun 2015 #118

Even right on this thread JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #157

deep down, I think heaven05 Jun 2015 #192

I see it often bravenak Jun 2015 #244

K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #39

why the dare? heaven05 Jun 2015 #47

Kick for still being right & hitting the nail right on the head. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #55

One should not conflate championing economic injustice, as downplaying racial injustice. Glassunion Jun 2015 #56

Thanks for your post. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #69

Agreed. Glassunion Jun 2015 #87

This was beautiful - thanks~ JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #80

great post heaven05 Jun 2015 #104

.... Tree-Hugger Jun 2015 #143

This^^^ BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #196

Just read your reply TM99 Jun 2015 #243

"They do overlap, yet are separate from one another." Number23 Jun 2015 #265

On the other hand, it wouldn't have hurt. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #57

bravo Mr Dixon Jun 2015 #66

Sorry I posted in this thread, I will self-delete Dems to Win Jun 2015 #78

75% of African Americans JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #82

1+ ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #116

Yep, yep & yet these issues effect us regularly. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Jun 2015 #126

Oh what utter bullshit. The OP did no such thing, but if giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Jun 2015 #151

The OP said absolutely nothing about there not being poor giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #154

No it didn't - JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #163

The Koch Brothers Gave $25 Million to the United Negro College Fund Last Year JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #105

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #112

an important "tool" heaven05 Jun 2015 #114

Please ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #119

Way to completely miss the point of the OP. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #120

Minorities are not the only people being killed by police. WDIM Jun 2015 #113

Tell me ... How does economic injustice affect MY expressing racial injustices? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #121

Show me an example of racial injustice in the upper class WDIM Jun 2015 #125

Funny you mention Oprah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #128

And a homeless white woman would have worse treatment. WDIM Jun 2015 #134

Okayyyyy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #138

Equality is equality and racial equality has to have economic equality. WDIM Jun 2015 #142

Please don't exhibit your mis-understanding of Dr. MLK to me. Thank you. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #153

I still do not see what they see - how do you get economic justice without basic civil rights first? Rex Jun 2015 #158

How do you have basic civil rights without economic justice? WDIM Jun 2015 #165

No sadly a living wage is not a basic civil right, otherwise we would have one right? Rex Jun 2015 #166

Living wage is a civil right WDIM Jun 2015 #171

Show me which amendment deals with a living wage and I might agree with you. Rex Jun 2015 #173

Well that is your first problem Rights do not come from amendments. WDIM Jun 2015 #178

Nonsense, if there was no bill of rights we would have none in this country! Rex Jun 2015 #180

Rights are natural and exist above the laws. WDIM Jun 2015 #187

There used to not be any amendments. Amendments enumerate rights not create them. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #359

What good are basic civil rights?- says the guy that's got his. WOW bettyellen Jun 2015 #194

I give up. nt Rex Jun 2015 #198

One can't ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #167

It is strange imo. Rex Jun 2015 #169

But if you were poor you'd go to jail. WDIM Jun 2015 #174

So I am rich? Just because you need me to be to fit your narrative? Rex Jun 2015 #176

I didnt say rich WDIM Jun 2015 #182

To have true equality it does have to include racial equality. WDIM Jun 2015 #160

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #161

A white woman on welfare JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #150

How do you obtain economic equality, without having basic civil rights first? Rex Jun 2015 #156

Minorities are being killed in a disproportionate number... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #123

If they were poor too that risk would be even greater. WDIM Jun 2015 #127

Racial discrimination is the lowest you've seen in your lifetime? gollygee Jun 2015 #133

I agree they are symbiotic. WDIM Jun 2015 #136

Unfortunately gollygee Jun 2015 #139

and Economic injustice is ignored completely by most. WDIM Jun 2015 #145

Not here on DU gollygee Jun 2015 #146

That's because those who are being hurt are being used, and talk about economic equality would jtuck004 Jun 2015 #349

The 1% is not talking about racism at all gollygee Jun 2015 #351

Most white folk aren't talking about it at all, whether 1% or the rest. If it was just 1%, only jtuck004 Jun 2015 #352

hmmm - not sure JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #147

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2015 #197

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #249

that third and fourth paragraph??????? heaven05 Jun 2015 #201

Serious Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #204

you just really heaven05 Jun 2015 #209

Ive worked store security WDIM Jun 2015 #255

if you say so heaven05 Jun 2015 #358

Males of Color are 21 times more likely to be shot by police even though whites have more guns per uponit7771 Jun 2015 #248

I don't post about this much ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #131

It is very brave of you to share this. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #140

... ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #202

Thank you for posting this.... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #162

I hope so ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #203

you got my respect heaven05 Jun 2015 #195

Thank you kindly ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #205

Baloney. Orsino Jun 2015 #135

You may not be able to, but we POC can which is why the OP giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #137

Echoing giftedgirl JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #149

Excellent point. HornBuckler Jun 2015 #170

Yeah. Rather than tweaking these situations, economic justice would likely have prevented them... Orsino Jun 2015 #190

easy statement(s) heaven05 Jun 2015 #193

But we will never know, as an "economically just" world is so ill-defined ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #211

Sigh, there are rich POC who are treated no different than Trayvon or Brown or Garner ... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #250

Thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #271

But what if we define economic justice more broadly than simple income equality? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #172

You make a good point here - but try this . . . JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #272

Oh, I agree with that completely. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #366

I'd agree! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #367

And if we take a look on the opposite side of that coin... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #368

Amen!!!! JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #369

But it does help you to hire a lawyer and bring people to justice. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #175

I hope you're being sarcastic? bettyellen Jun 2015 #200

Best post of the year? I think so randys1 Jun 2015 #179

damn good!!!! heaven05 Jun 2015 #199

You wish to divide us? Okay, go with that then. See if that furthers your cause. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #206

Not everybody does. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #212

Thank you so much for taking "the dare". Getting them to understand that the two are not the same.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #207

How about those of us who are fighting for both? BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #208

Working for both is great. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #210

I have never expected anyone to fight for my rights BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #213

gw has a great OP heaven05 Jun 2015 #246

If the OP wanted to make her point without the swipe at lower class people of color BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #251

I didn't see ignoring the situation for the less fortunate by op JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #276

sorry heaven05 Jun 2015 #357

"Liberal Democrats cannot be counted on to champion the cause of racial injustice." Number23 Jun 2015 #223

Thoughts On THIS ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #238

That it's clear you totally ignored her last paragraph which addresses giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #254

OP responded to that pretty well in the OP Recursion Jun 2015 #267

Willy T, I think you misstated the original post here. lovemydog Jun 2015 #270

You posted that 4 times but you don't seem to even bother to read the OP you respond to. What does Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #283

Well done. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #239

Excellent OP, qwlauren.. thank you for posting! Cha Jun 2015 #242

Great op bravenak Jun 2015 #245

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #262

Neither side is wrong in this debate. RichVRichV Jun 2015 #264

Yes, one "side" is definitely wrong. stevenleser Jun 2015 #279

Are you being obtuse? RichVRichV Jun 2015 #347

This turned out to be a very important thread Recursion Jun 2015 #266

K & R lovemydog Jun 2015 #268

Bernie Sanders was a SNCC organizer back when SNCC organizers were being KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #274

OP didn't mention any candidate first of all. Second, Joe Lieberman marched with MLK stevenleser Jun 2015 #280

Righteo. The corner that attacks women who've lost children has now KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #281

That's some sort of code I am supposed to understand? stevenleser Jun 2015 #282

You wrote it. You own it. IMO, the Admins should have banned you KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #284

Ah, at least I know what you are talking about now. Except that's not what happened at all stevenleser Jun 2015 #285

We all know how you work. You try to bait people into doing or saying something KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #286

If that's true, complain to admins. But they have already said no one has done that stevenleser Jun 2015 #289

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #301

So many other posters don't take it that way either treestar Jun 2015 #320

And of course it's no coincidence that these people had issues with me before this stevenleser Jun 2015 #323

No unbiased person would. They have an agenda and are mischaracterizing my post to serve it. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #343

. Rex Jun 2015 #327

Oh so you hope the jurors are not objective treestar Jun 2015 #319

Anyone who read can see what happened there demwing Jun 2015 #287

Yes they can, and it confirms my version of events. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #288

cool opinion bro, but not everyone agrees /nt demwing Jun 2015 #303

Only folks who fight with me all the time about issues and candidates, like you, see it your way. stevenleser Jun 2015 #335

SL was referencing her claim she would post a link treestar Jun 2015 #302

He did a ROFL when she stated immediately above that she lost her child. As Bonobo put it, he's KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #305

Why did she post that? treestar Jun 2015 #308

He was responding to a post where she claimed she had lost her own child. With KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #312

No it was to her claim about posting links treestar Jun 2015 #318

Bonobo? I have that poster on ignore for years now. They are still following me around attacking me? stevenleser Jun 2015 #362

Shit that gets posted online stays online demwing Jun 2015 #290

No, it didn't. That is not what happened. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #291

I am so surprised a poster who has had issues with me for years decides to believe this incorrect stevenleser Jun 2015 #292

I really don't give a fuck. He should have been banned for that shit, since what he did KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #293

No he wasn't addressing her personal issues. Sorry but you are reaching here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #295

See, in the Hillary-verse, it's perfectly OK to laugh at the death of a child or to KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #306

oh lord! I can see what you are doing and i am not going to bother trying to convince you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #310

Yep, it's obvious. These folks have been at me for years and now are inventing something stevenleser Jun 2015 #325

Yes it is. Don't pay too much attention to your detractors. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #326

But it was not addressed to that, as is obvious treestar Jun 2015 #346

Exactly correct. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #331

see my PM /nt demwing Jun 2015 #298

Spell out what you think he did. You are making this accusation then back it up. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #299

LOL treestar Jun 2015 #332

So now we see the real issue. Bernie supporters are upset that SKP was banned and want blood from stevenleser Jun 2015 #337

I respect you sir Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #339

I think we can have an honest disagreement about that. But the attempt at retribution at me for it stevenleser Jun 2015 #340

Retribution should not be acceptable Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #341

Poor Bernie supporters! treestar Jun 2015 #321

Steve was not making fun of her situation. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #294

Um, yeah he should - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #296

It looks to me you are purposely misreading his post. Very dishonest on your part. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #297

Calling another DUer dishonest because he doesnt square with your opinion? demwing Jun 2015 #300

Spell out how Steve attacked her about her past. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #304

Spell out where I say he did? demwing Jun 2015 #309

Yet he was not the one who got hidden posts. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #311

Lol, apparently some people like posts that are steaming piles of crap! demwing Jun 2015 #314

Or people can see what is really going on here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #315

Again, some people see it your way, and others see it differently demwing Jun 2015 #316

Just defending someone from false accusations. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #317

Yes it was her post that was hidden ironically treestar Jun 2015 #329

i can not speak to her history but i think the hide speaks for itself. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #330

It is dishonest to use the laughing smilie treestar Jun 2015 #324

Yes it is dishonest. It speaks to how weak they believe their positions are that they resort to this stevenleser Jun 2015 #334

Ugh. Get some context, dude. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2015 #344

I was asked to weigh in here BainsBane Jun 2015 #348

I can't believe you came into this thread of ALL THREADS with this petty bullshit Number23 Jun 2015 #360

Some folks don't realize when they try to attack other people they are in fact saying stevenleser Jun 2015 #361

Not ahistorical shit. It's one thing to march up and down the street, it's another to let jtuck004 Jun 2015 #350

K&R stevenleser Jun 2015 #278

Overt and unconscious racism and sexism are the reasions why peole of color Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #307

K&R. There's a "joke" by a black comedian (whose name is escaping me...)... YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #313

I think They should dare you to post in GD more often! Rex Jun 2015 #322

Thank You stevil Jun 2015 #336

^up Solly Mack Jun 2015 #342

K&R KMOD Jun 2015 #363

I don't believe anyone is saying that economic justice will fix social injustices. cui bono Jun 2015 #364

I'm going to agree to disagree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #365

For those who keep misstating what the original post says: stop it. lovemydog Jun 2015 #370

Saw this a couple of days ago. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #377

I don't see anyone saying social justice isn't as important as anything marym625 Jun 2015 #378

Actually, economic justice might have meant Trayvon Martin would still be alive Warpy Jun 2015 #379

I don't agree. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #382

False choices are appealing to a lot of people Warpy Jun 2015 #383

I guess we're all stupid. qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #384