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In reply to the discussion: The worst H1-b visa story I've heard so far... [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... instead of having employers do it illegally the way they've done with unskilled workers for so many years when hiring undocumented workers. And the government's ag subsidies has a double purpose of allowing American ag companies to dump under priced food exports in to south america to force many down there out of work and to sell off their farms because they can't compete against underpriced goods, and subsequently they have to come up here to get work then.
#4 should be corrected to say:
We want the world's best and brightest in our country to work and be paid accordingly to maintain the lead that Silicon Valley had over the rest of the world in employing them for so many years when the tech boom started. The H1-B (and H-2B) is a secret weapon for wealthy bosses and company owners to lower their labor costs GLOBALLY and redistribute the companies profits from added productivity to themselves instead of those who helped produce these products and services. It keeps workers away from their families in other countries, and has money shipped out of the economy where it is being earned instead of infusing economic growth in that (OUR) economy. Ultimately TEMPORARY workers from H-1B will help build the intellectual infrastructure of newer high tech capitals like Bangalore instead of building up the intellectual capital of Silicon Valley as people return home from their TEMPORARY H-1B Visa jobs here.
#5 Add to the end that:
H-1B and H-2B jobs are TEMPORARY and don't accomplish this goal, and that we should emphasize different immigration mechanisms for these workers that provides them the ability to compete on an equal playing field for jobs here, and ENCOURAGES them to become American citizens the way our country has traditionally welcomed immigrants.
#6 should be corrected to say:
Smart American kids going to college here realize that the cost of college is so high now here, AND the liklihood that high tech jobs from a tech education will be either outsourced through free trade deal expansion, or be less available or underpaid due to H-1B programs, and choose intelligently instead to seek careers that are more rewarding and less apt to be outsourced in these fashions in fields such as law and in some forms of medical care (NOT radiology). If you want kids to pursue high tech careers, it is not enough to just make education cheaper (Indian nationals get bachelor degree educations for FREE there), but to also ensure that their jobs won't be outsourced to lower paid H-1B workers or jobs on foreign soil when free trade allows such "race to the bottom" exploitation.
Add #7:
Items 1-3 are not helped AT ALL by outsourcing through free trade deals, or by expanding H-1B or H-2B programs, and don't belong in any kind of justification for these kinds of programs.