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Divernan

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156. And the jury says . . . (5 to 2) LEAVE IT!

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:05 AM

Jun 2015

Looks like someone lost a sock.
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Memo to the Clinton Campaign [View all] cali Jun 2015 OP

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #1

Considering that he is a son of an immigrant Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #40

I 'was' ready to enthusiastically support Hillary. fleabiscuit Jun 2015 #181

I am starting to wonder why I took you off "ignore" corkhead Jun 2015 #182

And what did Gutierrez say? MineralMan Jun 2015 #2

here cali Jun 2015 #3

Thank you. MineralMan Jun 2015 #5

He's not sure if Bernie likes immigrants. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #4

He flat out attacked Sanders in a thoroughly ugly and dishonest way. cali Jun 2015 #7

Did you even read what he said. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #25

yeah questioning whether Bernie likes minorities and immigrant- and immigrants cali Jun 2015 #27

It most certainly wasn't an attack. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #47

pitiful defense of smearing. cali Jun 2015 #51

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #55

sure. you keep on with that. it's a winner! cali Jun 2015 #58

You bet it is. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #60

yup DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #119

Kinda like Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild's of PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) 2banon Jun 2015 #160

If you have not accepted Bernie as your personal savior ... JoePhilly Jun 2015 #134

"Smearing"? How did he "smear" him? George II Jun 2015 #108

Some of Bernie's supporters... quickesst Jun 2015 #92

It was a smear and an attack. Can't fool us. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #114

If it means smearing good 840high Jun 2015 #116

It was a clear attack. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #112

if he has nothing for immigrants, he has nothing for his own father. roguevalley Jun 2015 #194

No, he's not sure if...uh...what's his name...Sanders likes immigrants jeff47 Jun 2015 #11

that anyone would compare Bernie asking Hillary to clarify her position cali Jun 2015 #15

it speaks volumes.. frylock Jun 2015 #39

And apparently that goes for some of her supporters cali Jun 2015 #48

Don't you know cali, only Sanders supporters are big ol' meanies. cui bono Jun 2015 #197

And here we are again Aerows Jun 2015 #96

This tactic turned off millions of voters in 2008 and drove them into the Obama camp. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #120

+1 BeanMusical Jun 2015 #188

Personally I hope the Clinton surrogates continue to do this davidpdx Jun 2015 #180

And the usual suspects are here to tell us how wrong we are. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #117

Yes, because implying one's opponent is a bigot is exactly the same as asking one's opponent to smokey nj Jun 2015 #14

disgusting cali Jun 2015 #28

Disgusting is all they have and I honestly think this tactic is going to backfire. smokey nj Jun 2015 #32

Could not agree more MissDeeds Jun 2015 #137

Just because you're not paying attention to Bernie, doesn't mean Exilednight Jun 2015 #16

This is not a tit for tat. Sanders wanting to know Hillary's stand on TPP is a legitimate question. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #29

Trying to nail down a position on a trade agreement vs implying Sanders doesn't like immigrants.. frylock Jun 2015 #38

Yeah, same thing. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #122

Perhaps Bernie would elaborate on his stance in regards to immigration, if he A Simple Game Jun 2015 #104

are you suggesting he is losing control of his message? He has relinqueshed it to the media? DrDan Jun 2015 #168

No I am not suggesting Bernie has lost control. I am suggesting that maybe the A Simple Game Jun 2015 #169

no - I cannot help you out - just reacting to your post where you claim he DrDan Jun 2015 #170

And it sounds to me that no matter what I say you will always find fault with Bernie A Simple Game Jun 2015 #171

I have yet to find fault with Bernie, and have yet to claim support for Hillary DrDan Jun 2015 #173

His position isn't hard to find, but I doubt you will look for it. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author DrDan Jun 2015 #177

please show me where I found fault with Bernie. Quite the contrary . . . DrDan Jun 2015 #178

apparently he never read this: DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #111

I wonder if Hillary Clinton doesn't care about immigrants SCREWED by our H-2B program... cascadiance Jun 2015 #125

Sanders and Clinton are both set to address Latino politicians group next week in Las Vegas... Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #6

not to mention that Bernie has repeatedly addressed immigrant issues cali Jun 2015 #8

Maybe his website could reflect that better BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #13

doing him a favor. what bull. And Hillary has nothing on her website- about any issue cali Jun 2015 #17

She does have the whole thing translated into Spanish though BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #20

Any idiot can run it through Google translate Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #43

Or anyone who speaks Spanish might be grateful and feel valued. bettyellen Jun 2015 #103

When every link is a donate page, the verb you want is "priced," not "valued" Scootaloo Jun 2015 #164

I honestly think O Malley's site is by far the best right now, Hill's is largely a place holder bettyellen Jun 2015 #179

Dona ahora frylock Jun 2015 #129

For real? (I haven't looked at it.) SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #101

Not even a "This space for rent, asking price $500,000" sign? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #163

Maybe Hillary's website could reflect any issues other than her quest to be a champion. morningfog Jun 2015 #26

lol...maybe she's still making up her mind BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #30

She is mining votes not supporting issues. Wake up - this is political. jwirr Jun 2015 #94

Oh, I'm awake BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #141

Clinton on the issues.. frylock Jun 2015 #41

Just about the only content there.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #46

This is more like it BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #50

I like both O'Malley and Sanders Aerows Jun 2015 #99

+1 N/t Raine1967 Jun 2015 #105

Thanks for that link, BeyondGeography . sheshe2 Jun 2015 #147

He's not so polished as some might like. Its a dull website. But the candidate is on the issues. marble falls Jun 2015 #196

They'll change their minds after Sanders.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #42

Clinton and Carson arranged to speak at the conference LuvLoogie Jun 2015 #158

I'm in the company . . . fadedrose Jun 2015 #9

Yeah. I wouldn't think it clever to make the lesser evil too evil, ya know. djean111 Jun 2015 #10

even if those talking points weren't handed to Gutierrez, there should be some kind geek tragedy Jun 2015 #12

this seems like an intentionally planned Geraldine ferraro moment JI7 Jun 2015 #18

no doubt Gutierrez thought he was scoring some points geek tragedy Jun 2015 #22

Did you actually send this to Mook, Clinton, Podesta, etc Renew Deal Jun 2015 #19

Do you think it is impossible for truedelphi Jun 2015 #23

I actually sent it. cali Jun 2015 #31

She can't help it. The Clintons are despicable. They were in 2008 and they will be in 2016! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #21

Yep bravenak Jun 2015 #34

Totally agree. 840high Jun 2015 #155

Only Hillary bashing is aloud! No criticism of anyone else! DanTex Jun 2015 #24

pathetic. this is about her surrogate, not poster's on a message board cali Jun 2015 #33

Of course, Hillary put him up to this. Yay conspiracy theories! DanTex Jun 2015 #35

Bernie has never run a negative campaign/ad in his life. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #44

I can honestly say I wasn't aware about Andrew Cuomo. Had to look it up. Raine1967 Jun 2015 #118

It's starting again. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #162

every public official, elected dem who endorses her is a surrogate cali Jun 2015 #45

Hmm. That's an interesting standard. Seems to me that you're running out DanTex Jun 2015 #52

that's the commonly accepted standard. or don't you remember 2008? cali Jun 2015 #53

If you say so. This was just a guy speaking his mind without any DanTex Jun 2015 #56

Just like Geraldine Ferraro in 2008. jeff47 Jun 2015 #61

If you think this guy was somehow being coached by the Clinton campaign then, yes, DanTex Jun 2015 #66

So Clinton's campaign is utterly incompetent? jeff47 Jun 2015 #67

First of all, Hillary's campaign hasn't even launched yet. DanTex Jun 2015 #71

Pssst...those happened in 2008. Her campaign was definitely launched. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #72

I was talking about the incident in the OP, not the 2008 incidents. DanTex Jun 2015 #73

Which is why you were replying to a post about the 2008 incidents. jeff47 Jun 2015 #74

My mistake. I don't care about the 2008 incidents, seeing that it's now 2015. DanTex Jun 2015 #75

Uh...the primary reason Clinton argues for her campaign is her lengthy track record. jeff47 Jun 2015 #77

Her track record is a lot more than the 2008 campaign, you know. DanTex Jun 2015 #81

Not according to what your previous post. jeff47 Jun 2015 #93

Again, I don't care about those 2008 incidents. At all. DanTex Jun 2015 #95

I wish to associate myself with the comments of the Gentleman from Texas. ellisonz Jun 2015 #97

Do you believe that Campaign HQ is anything other... bvar22 Jun 2015 #62

No supporters? think4yourself Jun 2015 #79

If you can't compete debating the issues, I guess Swiftboating comes next. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #191

Starting out by pretending not to even know his name??? Paka Jun 2015 #36

So the Clinton campaign goes negative and it already backfires on them.. big time.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #37

I suspect Bernie's surrogates would make the same mistake from time to time... brooklynite Jun 2015 #49

I know you're wrong. her pattern is clearly established, as is his. cali Jun 2015 #54

Excellent job showing us just how classy Clinton's fans are. jeff47 Jun 2015 #57

...something the Sanders fans mastered months ago... brooklynite Jun 2015 #68

Yes, asking for Clinton's position on the TPP is totally offensive and out-of-line. jeff47 Jun 2015 #70

You lie. Did you keep a 840high Jun 2015 #121

Didn't see Sanders fans accusing Clinton of having dual loyalties. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #166

At least according to the DU talking points. cui bono Jun 2015 #198

Rattling one's jewelry and bragging about one's political junkets also does wonders, I hear - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #187

What the hell does Gutierrez suppot of Sen O'Malley on immigration have to do with Hillary misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #59

Wrong candidate. Gutierrez backs Clinton. jeff47 Jun 2015 #65

fail. he is a Clinton supporter. way to demonstrate you don't have a clue cali Jun 2015 #136

No You are the big Fail. Try informing yourself. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #138

Psssst....dude.....you owe Cali an apology. TM99 Jun 2015 #154

Maybe wait until you're not high and wasted before posting, mister. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #167

Gutierrez supported Rahm Emanuel over Chuy Garcia for Chicago Mayor. Zorra Jun 2015 #63

And so did most of the voters in Chicago. brooklynite Jun 2015 #69

and that DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #176

Sorry to know that, it says much about Gutierrez. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #183

Why do you think his comment comes from the Clinton Campaign? oberliner Jun 2015 #64

Of course it is his own opinion, but blaming Hillary is more fun for Bernie supporters. leftofcool Jun 2015 #76

He's a Clinton surrogate. I'm asking the campaign to tell surrogates cali Jun 2015 #82

I'm not defending his statement oberliner Jun 2015 #83

Maybe Bernie's campaign can tell surrogates like you to stop the smearing still_one Jun 2015 #140

You should heed your own advice. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #78

I'm not a surrogate for any campaign. duh cali Jun 2015 #85

Sen. Sanders would be so proud of you---not. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #130

I'm sure they'll give your memo all the consideration it deserves LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #80

if they were smart they would. I'm not alone cali Jun 2015 #86

I get it now. murielm99 Jun 2015 #84

Did you read what Gutierrez actually said? Maedhros Jun 2015 #151

A Bernie supporter accusing someone of whining? murielm99 Jun 2015 #161

Memo to the Bernie Hacks on DU . . . Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #87

Why do you call Sanders supporters "hacks?" cyberswede Jun 2015 #89

Looks like someone lost a sock. smokey nj Jun 2015 #102

And the jury says . . . (5 to 2) LEAVE IT! Divernan Jun 2015 #156

Supporters are hacks? 840high Jun 2015 #123

More sleazy Clinton bullshit, guess they didn't learn anything from 2008 tularetom Jun 2015 #88

maybe you should talk to Michelle Kwan antigop Jun 2015 #90

Michelle Kwan is going to talk to us about working families? TBF Jun 2015 #148

When I first read the article posted elsewhere here, I thought it was a derogatory comment... George II Jun 2015 #91

how about pretending he didn't know his name ? JI7 Jun 2015 #100

I'm not making excuses for him, but I'm also not going to say he "pretended" to not know his name... George II Jun 2015 #106

he has a long time relationship with sanders JI7 Jun 2015 #109

A couple of years ago I sat down at a bar next to a guy I worked with for eleven years.... George II Jun 2015 #124

Ah yes! The joys of plausible deniability. n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #98

Wow! ibewlu606 Jun 2015 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Jun 2015 #110

feel the bern , eh? DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #113

Bernie's position on this issue is as good or better than Hillary's. Maedhros Jun 2015 #152

I agree with you Cali jalan48 Jun 2015 #115

If she is the candidate - I'll write 840high Jun 2015 #127

Typical. If you don't support the Democratic nominee, you will not vote for that nominee. still_one Jun 2015 #145

NOTHING will null & void my vote for our Democratic candidate. Duppers Jun 2015 #126

Absolutely correct, and though I suspect that the majority of Democrats and Progressives will still_one Jun 2015 #146

Yes, you have company. navarth Jun 2015 #128

Why do you do this sort of thing? Almost every day baiting others asjr Jun 2015 #131

it's just screwed up to see this as baiting cali Jun 2015 #135

Its like an addiction for some people. Fits of spiteful hate misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #139

I'm gonna guess... Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #144

I can only speak for myself, but I don't want to see Hillary anywhere near the White House. Maedhros Jun 2015 #153

+1 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #157

you seem desperate! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #132

She won't say her position on the TPP zentrum Jun 2015 #133

The two faces of Hillary are seen time and again, forthcoming only orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #142

The Clintons have repeatedly shown hifiguy Jun 2015 #143

Straw-grasping at its finest! n/t NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #149

I believe the congressman spoke for himself bigtree Jun 2015 #150

Well Done, Cali! 2banon Jun 2015 #159

So you would risk throwing this country completely to the Republicans?? DCBob Jun 2015 #165

my vote is irrelevant, as is yours if you live in D.C. cali Jun 2015 #172

So if you lived in any of the battleground states then that changes your statement. DCBob Jun 2015 #175

You've got it backwards. Sen Sanders will unite the Democratic Party while rhett o rick Jun 2015 #192

You've got it confused. DCBob Jun 2015 #201

Exactly. If HRC wins the nomination the Democratic Party risks losing to the Republicons rhett o rick Jun 2015 #202

Which if the so called "progresives" did that.. DCBob Jun 2015 #203

The main point is that we will all lose if a Republicon wins. It doesn't make it any better rhett o rick Jun 2015 #204

K & R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #184

I'll keep you company. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #185

Kicked SoapBox Jun 2015 #186

�We�ve got the socialist, uh I can�t remember his name. Bernie Sanders,� sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #189

There is an old folk saying, "Birds of a feather flock together". Zorra Jun 2015 #190

+++++ Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #193

Hear, hear! +1000 marble falls Jun 2015 #195

Nailed it!! Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #199

Just the start of the Sleazefest Indepatriot Jun 2015 #200