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Rex

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139. It is hard to understand how Gutierrez forgot who Bernie Sanders is.

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:28 AM

Jun 2015

Because he did not, he took a cheapshot and it backfired.

I've known DR was trending right now for years and years, sad to see her do what she did. An honest apology would have maybe made it less transparent - yet she couldn't even do that!

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House Dem: I'm not sure Bernie Sanders likes immigrants [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 OP

"Guti�rrez, who is backing Hillary Clinton for president" arcane1 Jun 2015 #1

Considering Vermont is a border state to Canada.. Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #5

Guti�rrez even supported Rahm Emanuel instead of Chuy Garcia in the last mayoral Zorra Jun 2015 #46

so did most of the Democratic voters. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #54

Not the hispanic Democrats. Gutierrez sold them out. nt Zorra Jun 2015 #68

NOT Hispanic progressive Democrats, which Gutierrez supposedly is. merrily Jun 2015 #114

The omission of that little fact from the OP hifiguy Jun 2015 #85

there was no omission.It's right there in the OP JI7 Jun 2015 #88

"I'm not sure of his name -- who is it again? -- but I sure am sure of his positions!" villager Jun 2015 #2

Wasn't he from, umm, what state was it? What party? Uh... nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #17

I'm not sure of his name...but, hey, he did get the talking point! HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #95

Funny that a member of the Progressive Caucus could not remember the name of the merrily Jun 2015 #115

"he doesn�t seem to talk about immigrants" KamaAina Jun 2015 #3

VT...96% Caucasian and full of immigrants... Chan790 Jun 2015 #39

actually Burlington has a sizable immigrant minority community cali Jun 2015 #71

Nevertheless...the majority of immigrants to CT, VT, NH, ME, MA, RI are Caucasian. Chan790 Jun 2015 #78

Not MA. MADem Jun 2015 #99

"whether there is" ?? karynnj Jun 2015 #122

What does that have to with where Bernie stands on immigration? Do you know where he stands btw? sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #135

sabrina, all irrelevant to the point I was making... Chan790 Jun 2015 #162

Thank you for explaining what you meant. I misunderstood obviously. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #165

Uh, no... There has been a large exodus of Caucasian immigrants OUT OF Northern NE. PotatoChip Jun 2015 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jun 2015 #180

We don't know that no immigrants were at his launch. We know only what merrily Jun 2015 #125

Classy. smokey nj Jun 2015 #4

I see Robbins Jun 2015 #6

We have intimations about blacks, the blatant "Jewish connection," now immigrants. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #20

It's amazing how fast it was that the counter-attacks became so sleazy... villager Jun 2015 #28

while we may not be happy with obama lately Robbins Jun 2015 #37

Hence the preemptive strikes: discredit him BEFORE anyone else hears him arcane1 Jun 2015 #42

I loved the title of Will Pitt's article, taken from an actual Clinton memo I believe? Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #174

Is it though? Haven't we seen this movie before? merrily Jun 2015 #121

Gay marriage should be next - TBF Jun 2015 #103

The Rehm broadcast was a worthless freebie for the Right... Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #170

.... merrily Jun 2015 #118

The ability of the Far Right to work the MSM regarding harebrained charges is cemented: Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #171

Not many consider the Hillary campaign to be the far right. Or wacko. merrily Jun 2015 #172

Insurance? Habit? merrily Jun 2015 #117

hmm Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #175

I suspect her surrogates will be apologizing a lot, just like last time. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #7

I'm sorry but Hillary doesn't have much madokie Jun 2015 #11

Keith Olbermann commented on this in 2008. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #25

that's our Hillary, champion for... Hillary cali Jun 2015 #30

Exactly. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #34

right on Robbins Jun 2015 #38

Yes he did. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #76

Yep. He had warned them, too. One more time and I'll endorse him. merrily Jun 2015 #120

At this time, Sanders is her opponent. goldent Jun 2015 #97

Racism, anti-Semitism and falsehoods about fellow Dems have not been part of every merrily Jun 2015 #123

Only the ones Hillary has been running in Fumesucker Jun 2015 #144

Which is why the false attacks on Bernie about minorities--of which he is one, btw--are merrily Jun 2015 #146

Maybe not every primary (e.g. when we have a popular incumbent) goldent Jun 2015 #163

No. Mudslinging--who had an affair, a breakdown, is very different from racism and anti-Semitism. merrily Jun 2015 #168

fail. smearing is Clinton special sauce cali Jun 2015 #126

Is it a warm purple sauce? n/t Scootaloo Jun 2015 #148

+1 Marr Jun 2015 #166

well that's an ugly bit of lying crap from a Clinton supporter. cali Jun 2015 #8

And they're sinking this low already. bunnies Jun 2015 #12

The thing about this type of attack is it makes the person making the attack look worse than the smokey nj Jun 2015 #15

Totally. I was just wondering if Luis Whatshisname realized... bunnies Jun 2015 #19

yeah, but Hillary has plausible deniability and this damn well does hurt bernie cali Jun 2015 #24

She has deniability. I wouldn't call it plausible. We've seen this movie before. n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #116

it's cowardly and disgusting. Hillary will either ignore him or continue to say cali Jun 2015 #18

Yep. Here comes the new campaign same as the old campaign. nt bunnies Jun 2015 #21

I am beginning to understand just how clueless some are about Bernie Sanders. Rex Jun 2015 #9

He's not clueless at all. He's doing Hillary's dirty work cali Jun 2015 #27

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #33

...^ that 840high Jun 2015 #94

Willful cluelessness in this case ... nt TBF Jun 2015 #102

Totally. nt Rex Jun 2015 #109

Not only the same building. Please see Reply 115. merrily Jun 2015 #124

Race-baiting and red-baiting all in the same place Prism Jun 2015 #10

I'm sure the OP is aware this reflects terrribly on Hillary's camp.... Fumesucker Jun 2015 #13

We have excessive evidence, compiled over many many posts LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #66

Yup Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #70

Can you believe this shit!? Rex Jun 2015 #23

of course I can believe it. her last campaign did the same unethical, ugly crap cali Jun 2015 #29

I skipped out on the primaries in 2008, just decided not to come here. Rex Jun 2015 #145

Disappointing the hell out of me... randys1 Jun 2015 #101

Sure. We've seen it all before. merrily Jun 2015 #137

It is hard to understand how Gutierrez forgot who Bernie Sanders is. Rex Jun 2015 #139

Studies have been done on misinformation. merrily Jun 2015 #142

Thanks for calling it like it is, Prism. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #77

bernie's record on immigration cali Jun 2015 #14

So wait, he doesn't know who he is, but he slips in that he is a 'socialist' and then that 'he sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #16

Why do you have to be so clinically logical about it. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #22

Lol, I do have to say that while I'm not too familiar with HIM, I have seen far more clever sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #57

This is just the beginning, but silver lining Rex Jun 2015 #26

"And we will call them out each and every time they do." Damn right we will! arcane1 Jun 2015 #31

Yes, compared to Bernie who is out every day just talking about ISSUES, while these little worms sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #129

Gutierrez has zero cred on this. merrily Jun 2015 #127

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." NightWatcher Jun 2015 #32

And so the smears begin. Not like it is out of character or unexpected, though. djean111 Jun 2015 #35

I thought they began with the dual citizenship claim, reminiscent of 2008. merrily Jun 2015 #128

You are right, I meant in general. I think conflating Bernie with that picture of djean111 Jun 2015 #153

Gee, I missed that photo. merrily Jun 2015 #156

Oh, it was used when a blogger was upset because of all the white faces at Bernie's djean111 Jun 2015 #160

Thanks. Yuck. merrily Jun 2015 #169

He hasn't said jackshit about my dachshund either. Guess that means he hate Germans. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #36

What a jag off... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #40

just another charming Hillary surrogate smearing away. cali Jun 2015 #41

Yup. truebrit71 Jun 2015 #43

I know, right? A child would have acted that out better. He's a very bad actor, they need to get sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #130

A chld wouldn't have been pillaging the liquor cabinet before an interview Scootaloo Jun 2015 #149

Maybe he learned that from Boehner? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #154

I'm not sure whether Hillary Clinton likes H-2B slave labor. She likes H-1B slave labor! cascadiance Jun 2015 #44

H-1B workers... quickesst Jun 2015 #83

That is why I also noted H-2B workers too... cascadiance Jun 2015 #87

I get that... quickesst Jun 2015 #105

Oh no. I know you have the bright idea too... cascadiance Jun 2015 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #91

gutierrez is Hillary's attack dog. Sanders needs to get someone to do the same JI7 Jun 2015 #45

no. just know. but he could come out with a statement in response and also deplore cali Jun 2015 #48

it won't do much. he needs someone like axelrod and plouffe JI7 Jun 2015 #53

That is one piss poor attack dog, IMO LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #67

Well, one of her attack dogs, anyway. If Sanders stooped that low, I'd be disappointed. merrily Jun 2015 #131

Attack dog, huh? Scootaloo Jun 2015 #152

So, "Bernie Sanders is a racist" is the new anti-Bernie tactic? Oneironaut Jun 2015 #47

Wow, this is good for goose good for gander treatment. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #49

Big difference: Sanders actually discusses immigration n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #51

I haven't heard him at all about immigration MohRokTah Jun 2015 #52

Then it never happened? arcane1 Jun 2015 #55

I'm just not as concerned about it. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #61

He's a lying little toady. he damn well knows cali Jun 2015 #79

You should probablystep back and take a few minutes to notice some beauty around you. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #80

you should follow your own advice, hon cali Jun 2015 #81

I'm certainly not worked up over this. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #82

Let's not pretend facts have anything to do with this shit. merrily Jun 2015 #134

funny. he spoke about it extensively just yesterday. He's going to Vegas on Friday cali Jun 2015 #58

COOL! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #59

why bother? he knows he's lying. he served with Bernie for 17 years. cali Jun 2015 #63

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #65

. LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #69

Nice selfie Fumesucker Jun 2015 #72

Lol, good one! sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #133

lol. that's the best you can do. wait, I already knew that. you just don't do substantive cali Jun 2015 #73

It is amazing how many chances some get around here. Rex Jun 2015 #147

Results... Major Nikon Jun 2015 #74

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #75

Explanation: As a Hillary supporter I find MRT embarassing frylock Jun 2015 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget Jun 2015 #110

Oh bullshit! Did he personally call you to talk about this? See, if some jagoff says it didn't Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2015 #60

Google much? merrily Jun 2015 #140

It's amazing how completely unaware you are of the candidate you openly despise Scootaloo Jun 2015 #150

I know a lot more than the vast majority of DU. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #155

Clearly you don't. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #157

You prove my point. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #158

If saying that makes you feel better, by all means Scootaloo Jun 2015 #159

. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #161

that's because you don't listen frylock Jun 2015 #178

Oh bullshit. jeff47 Jun 2015 #64

No, it's only the same kind of bs we've seen before. merrily Jun 2015 #132

Gutierrez is the Geraldine Ferraro for 2016 elections JI7 Jun 2015 #50

Oh wow....that's a pretty good comparison Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #62

More ugly will come like this. Considering the level of lies and ugly presented here, they Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #56

Is this the same Luis Gutierrez who was Rahm Emmanuel's campaign chairman? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #84

.... merrily Jun 2015 #136

Nice Democrat. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #86

I also heard that Sanders has not denounced Vivisectionists. JanMichael Jun 2015 #89

yes indeed, ludicrous desperation CrawlingChaos Jun 2015 #107

ah surrogate talking time nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #90

"Excuse me! That's *Vice President* Lickspittle Toady!" lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #92

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #93

Meet the new Hillary. Just like the old Hillary. magical thyme Jun 2015 #96

hasn't changed a thing cali Jun 2015 #98

yes it did. I just got paid today. Motivated me to make another donation magical thyme Jun 2015 #100

Same 2008 campaign, same 2008 supporters, same 2008 results. Scootaloo Jun 2015 #151

I'll certainly remember Rep. Luis Guti�rrez (DINO-Ill.) name.... 99Forever Jun 2015 #104

Kinda patheic CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #106

Bernie Sanders is the son of an immigrant, Luis Guti�rrez is not. So what's that about? Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #111

Don't go bringing facts into this ... nt TBF Jun 2015 #112

Like Rahm, Gutierrez has long aspired to be Mayor of Chicago. What is his best path to that office? merrily Jun 2015 #113

Bernie ' s town is a refugee resettlement town karynnj Jun 2015 #119

Yup. 96% white, versus Chappequa, which is almost 92% white. merrily Jun 2015 #138

Burlington and some surrounding towns volunteered karynnj Jun 2015 #141

Good info, karynnj, now karynvt. Thanks. merrily Jun 2015 #143

Gutierrez is starting to sound like (P)rick Parry davidpdx Jun 2015 #164

Sanders' best PR is going to come from Hillary supporters, I think. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #167

... and oh yeah, we also have the capitalist, I forget her name, oh yes that's right Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #173

He forgot the "some people say" part deutsey Jun 2015 #176