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cascadiance

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61. Yep! Many H-1B workers don't like the way this program works either...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

They don't like the "indentured servant" conditions that they have to work on and dealing with the "guest houses" which I PERSONALLY witnessed when I lived in the bay area in the apartment right next door to me that is described in this report, and where they talk to an H-1B employee about what he doesn't like about it as well!

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Silicon-Valleys-Body-Shop-Secret-280567322.html

For those out there who say all of us who have problems with this program are just xenophobic in our wish to push out foreign workers, you really don't know us either.

I moved to the west coast from the midwest partially because I WANTED a more diverse community to work in. Some of my best friends are immigrants from places like India and Iran. I'm arguing against this program, because it works against them as much as it works against us to serve fattening the profits of the wealthy and powerful. We should all be for shutting down H-1B, H-2B, and other similar "guest worker" programs that gives employers the ability to hire people in the same way they would have hired undocumented workers without being criminally liable for doing so. But in addition, we should be looking to globally organize labor so that there is no "bottom" that the wealthy and powerful can race to to force slave labor conditions to their benefit and not pay attention to the welfare of the environment and the communities they have factories in. If we work together, we have a better chance of stopping this mess for the benefit of all!

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. Wilms Jun 2015 #1
Who supported more H-1Bs? davidn3600 Jun 2015 #2
H1-B is a complicated issue clayton72 Jun 2015 #3
Most of those points were made in the story... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #4
Not that complicated really. TM99 Jun 2015 #5
Bingo! There are an awful lot of highly qualified folks in engineering & SW engineering who get peacebird Jun 2015 #28
Oh, yes, I am sure the Disney employees would have been thrilled as fuck to train, say, Germans or djean111 Jun 2015 #9
Your point 6 is dead wrong GummyBearz Jun 2015 #16
For lower pay I am sure... Greedy corporate moFos. peacebird Jun 2015 #29
It sure is. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #38
The current employees were obviously bright enough to do the job TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #17
Young people need STEAM, not STEM FrodosPet Jun 2015 #26
H-1B AND H-2B visas are ways to "legalize" hiring indentured servants... cascadiance Jun 2015 #34
"Cheap" as in "importing cheap labor" is not a race. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #44
And a lot of them are getting graduate degrees here as they are given free BA's in their country... cascadiance Jun 2015 #54
+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #59
Did you even read the goddamned article in the OP you replied to? X_Digger Jun 2015 #47
Yet another US Chamber of Commerce PR flack brentspeak Jun 2015 #52
These are always untrue stories treestar Jun 2015 #6
That's incredibly naive. Scuba Jun 2015 #7
No it is informed treestar Jun 2015 #8
It is not reality. Not in the least. djean111 Jun 2015 #10
It is. People would only have to have the Department of Labor treestar Jun 2015 #11
People - displaced IT workers - cannot afford the lawyers. And the deck is stacked. djean111 Jun 2015 #12
Excuses, excuses treestar Jun 2015 #13
LOL. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #19
The real problem gd770226 Jun 2015 #23
That sucks GummyBearz Jun 2015 #33
Furthermore, based on the experience of someone I Ilsa Jun 2015 #53
And you really think our corporate owned government will do anything? Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #32
get a grip - you don't know if you haven't worked there - hollysmom Jun 2015 #55
Well, class action lawsuits have been "redirected" or thrown out by this SCOTUS... cascadiance Jun 2015 #57
See this recent DU OP and #15 Re the NYT, June 2015 article stating lower payment appalachiablue Jun 2015 #15
I can do one better... Chan790 Jun 2015 #21
So, a for-profit company is spending MORE money TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #18
They let go a senior engineer, hire a junior H1B to do the job at lower pay peacebird Jun 2015 #30
So the 250 employees who got laid off did not loose this jobs? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #31
You obviously haven't worked in the field like many of us here have... cascadiance Jun 2015 #35
The TPP will depress wages globally. The Race to the Bottom= Corporate Heaven. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #65
The DOL says otherwise. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #37
treestar, unfortunately you are wrong. This actually happens. pnwmom Jun 2015 #42
Bwaahahaha! *takes a breath* Ahahahahahahahhaa! X_Digger Jun 2015 #48
White collar workers..... quickesst Jun 2015 #14
Agreed. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #20
+1 n/t Chan790 Jun 2015 #22
I gotta say that watching the dueling agendas around here is what keeps me clicking Fumesucker Jun 2015 #24
don't get me wrong... quickesst Jun 2015 #25
Here's what's not so funny. pnwmom Jun 2015 #43
I have several grandchildren and I worry about them Fumesucker Jun 2015 #45
My daughter is 13 AwakeAtLast Jun 2015 #46
This is what we've told our kids. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #63
The smart kids we want in STEM, AVOID STEM degrees, because they know the system is rigged! cascadiance Jun 2015 #64
+1 AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #40
So then we can get outsourced for even LOWER paid workers with the equally crappy H-2B visa program! cascadiance Jun 2015 #60
only when qualified American workers can't be found right? TheFarseer Jun 2015 #27
Cost savings. What else drives American business? AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #39
How are job add like this legal? gd770226 Jun 2015 #36
I think that's a pretty common arrangement. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #41
Non-compete contracts should be null and void TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #49
I agree. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #50
H1-Bs need to simply end. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #51
not quite, just prosecute those misuing it. hollysmom Jun 2015 #56
I have no problem with wanting to hire the best people. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #58
Yep! Many H-1B workers don't like the way this program works either... cascadiance Jun 2015 #61
It's basically become slave labor. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #62
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