The worst H1-b visa story I've heard so far...

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64. The smart kids we want in STEM, AVOID STEM degrees, because they know the system is rigged!

That is what we are losing every day for the last decade or two in terms of our intellectual capital. They work in medicine, law, or other fields instead that are less likely to be outsourced overseas or with "guest workers" coming here through crap like H-1B.

Until we stop this and other forms of outsourcing enablement, and have companies pay what they should for people living in this society with these skill sets, our country is going to continue to see the high tech industry moved overseas to other countries that both keep their salaries low, and subsidize their kids educations like India, and build their intellectual capital when H-1B visa workers come back from their "stint" here and build up places like Bangalore to take over the position in the world as high tech capitol from Silicon Valley.

And they probably also love that the money sent back from H-1B visa employees to their families back in India invigorates THEIR economy and not ours! So much for job stimulus with hiring people here when their money goes overseas instead of staying here!

If we offered them a path to citizenship and full participation in our society, then I bet they bring their families here and our intellectual investment gets made here, and their money also builds up our economy too!