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Cal Carpenter

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32. A dumb comment? Insensitive? Saying something stupid?

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:17 AM

Jun 2015

Okay, so I followed the link to her actual words and I am sort of appalled to see anyone here implying that what she said could be written off as dumb, insensitive, stupid... The OP seems to present a dishonest hypothetical scenario, because I think there are probably cases in which teachers do say something dumb on facebook and punished for it, and perhaps in some of those cases it is debatable.

But this? It was flat-out racist hate speech, pro-segregation rife with stereotypes and assumptions and a wish to go back to the old days of Jim Crow. Nasty disgusting garbage that has no place in the mind of a school teacher.

Regardless of the skin tone of my (hypothetical) children, I would not want a racist POS teaching them. This is over the top, and the fact that she was stupid enough to broadcast her blatant racist disgusting bullshit publicly? Oh my fucking god.

She's an asshole and deserves to be fired.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Stuart G Jun 2015 OP

I guess it would depend on the comment. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #1

Making racist comment about policeman who drew gun and sat on black teenager Stuart G Jun 2015 #3

Yes, that teacher should be fired. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #5

I agree, she needed to be fired...nt StopTheNeoCons Jun 2015 #10

exactly uppityperson Jun 2015 #120

Do you think it is an accident the black kids are the ones who get tblue37 Jun 2015 #76

I was gonna say no, but then read the quote 6chars Jun 2015 #79

For that comment? Jamastiene Jun 2015 #80

Absolutely. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #95

That person has no business teaching children. yardwork Jun 2015 #108

How does what she obviously feels transfer to her students? djean111 Jun 2015 #2

Do we know for sure, that these opinions were indeed transfered to her students? Stuart G Jun 2015 #13

we can assume that they will be. there is a very strong presumption that geek tragedy Jun 2015 #24

People who are that blatently racist are ALWAYS going to transmit those feelings into behavior. alphafemale Jun 2015 #43

Ok, well aside from that Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #49

i'm only racist after 5pm noiretextatique Jun 2015 #70

I wouldn't want my child sitting in one of her classrooms notadmblnd Jun 2015 #102

that wasn't a dumb comment. It was a racist screed. cali Jun 2015 #4

You nailed it, Cali. brush Jun 2015 #7

Exactly. Why is it even a question whether she should be fired? Good heavens. If I Nay Jun 2015 #29

She shouldn't be in front of ANY children, minority or not. madinmaryland Jun 2015 #62

It depends. If you're talking about the teacher who wrote: lovemydog Jun 2015 #6

She Lost Me At "the blacks" ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #38

I'd have to question every grade she's ever given in the past daredtowork Jun 2015 #78

she's not only racist, she's barely literate noiretextatique Jun 2015 #71

Yeah, I think making racist comments on Facebook is grounds MineralMan Jun 2015 #8

Should someone with rascist views be teaching children? Can they really be fair to all students FSogol Jun 2015 #9

Nope and nope. nt Nay Jun 2015 #31

sometimes if you are correcting spelling hfojvt Jun 2015 #83

That's the real issue Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #117

That teacher deserved to lose her job over those comments. Paladin Jun 2015 #11

It depends how bad the statement is and whether its possible it was misconstrued. stevenleser Jun 2015 #12

I think it was enough to fire a teacher treestar Jun 2015 #14

People post lots of things on the internet that should not be posted. Stuart G Jun 2015 #18

she's a white supremacist. no need to inquire further. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #21

Stupid is a stupid does TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #28

why should they waste money on her? noiretextatique Jun 2015 #82

In this case, YES! nt frogmarch Jun 2015 #15

Did she have tenure? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #16

I never really understood the concept of tenure to elementary, or even high school students. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #22

no but to take one example dsc Jun 2015 #53

I think her post was extreme enough to be fired over. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #17

What the racist teacher said was far beyond an opinion. alp227 Jun 2015 #68

Yes, I very clearly stated that I think the teacher should be fired. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #72

Yes, extreme enough to get fired..but, due process?, hearing? etc. Stuart G Jun 2015 #87

Yeah, interesting topic in my opinion. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #103

Thank You..that was my reason for that topic. Stuart G Jun 2015 #113

If there's a whites-only school she's qualified to teach there. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #19

Teachers like this are bad for white kids, too. nt Nay Jun 2015 #37

presumably a school with a whites-only admission policy would disagree. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #40

Such as school would be illegal in the US, so straw man. A racist teacher is bad for students of the Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #99

Teachers get fired all the time for comments Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #20

Yes, no, maybe so. It depends on the specific comments. Throd Jun 2015 #23

Not only racist, but she showed HORRIBLE decision making skills by posting it NightWatcher Jun 2015 #25

a mere dumb comment, no? White supremacism, yes nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #26

what's the comment? samsingh Jun 2015 #27

Here ya go. Hate speech. Nasty. Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #33

that's very nasty. the teacher has no business teaching samsingh Jun 2015 #48

one calling for a return to Jim Crow apartheid geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35

Her bigotry is based on ignorance and she is a teacher who embraced bigotry when she decided Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #30

A dumb comment? Insensitive? Saying something stupid? Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #32

Bullying it's the new way to get what you want. ileus Jun 2015 #34

who's doing the bullying in your view? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #36

Always interesting to read the views of people who like to post in RKBA Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #42

gender too. We had a RKBA'er defending Florida's Scarlet Letter Law the other day nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #50

Who's doing the bullying in this case? Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #41

Pretending the consequences of bigoted speech is "bullying." It's the new way to rationalize... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #52

Not a shock coming from you, please explain your comment! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #94

Ask youself two things: Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #39

Some people really should just stay off of social media altogether. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #44

That was NOT a dumb comment. 99Forever Jun 2015 #45

Yes kimbutgar Jun 2015 #46

Honestly, I can't believe you are even asking this. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #47

I am asking this because of this idea. Stuart G Jun 2015 #56

she said she doesn't want black kids in her school or in her geek tragedy Jun 2015 #60

i would not that woman anywhere near my black niece noiretextatique Jun 2015 #73

"Black on white" racism?? kath Jun 2015 #109

If she can't keep it off facebook, she sure as shit can't keep it out of the classroom Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #121

Yes of course she has to be fired, and beware of righty who will find a way to turn (TENURE) randys1 Jun 2015 #51

Why not? BklnDem75 Jun 2015 #54

It was beyond "dumb" ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #55

In that particular case, Yes. Absolutely. Iggo Jun 2015 #57

Absolutely. Igel Jun 2015 #58

Firing her was the right thing to do, and good riddance! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #59

In this case... sendero Jun 2015 #61

Do you think this is a case of reverse racism? nt. LexVegas Jun 2015 #63

What do you mean? nt alp227 Jun 2015 #67

the poster noiretextatique Jun 2015 #74

And he speaks of "black on white" racism in a post above... kath Jun 2015 #110

my opinion Skittles Jun 2015 #64

I bet her black students didn't care for her, either. LeftyMom Jun 2015 #65

If it's a racist comment, absolutely n/t kcr Jun 2015 #66

It wasn't the comment so much as the feelings and attitude behind the comment. pnwmom Jun 2015 #69

as others have pointed out: you are minimizing her comment noiretextatique Jun 2015 #75

Yes Kalidurga Jun 2015 #77

are you the one who made the post about reverse racism and how all the black teachers hated you ? JI7 Jun 2015 #81

Yes, immediately Prism Jun 2015 #84

In this womans case Egnever Jun 2015 #85

Should a moronic, racist teacher be defended on a liberal forum? 6000eliot Jun 2015 #86

Yes. THAT teacher should be fired immediately for THAT comment about THAT issue. Orrex Jun 2015 #88

As to this woman? You betcha. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #89

If the comment is "the blacks are the ones causing the problems" then yes. DanTex Jun 2015 #90

Well in this new age of social media, they will be fired. Glassunion Jun 2015 #91

The social media does indeed have a "do it now", "right now" attitude.. Stuart G Jun 2015 #96

Of course not! In 1960s Alabama or South Africa, she would've been Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2015 #92

You are ok with obvious racists teaching? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #93

You got that wrong, I am not OK..with obvious racist teaching...that was not my point at all. Stuart G Jun 2015 #100

Then your mistake was the choice to leave the actual comment out of your post while characterizing Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #104

I did not include the comment for this reason. Stuart G Jun 2015 #107

Unions didn't "institute procedures" Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #122

Reread your OP. You didn't stress procedure, you didn't even use the word. JHB Jun 2015 #114

I'm conflicted. LWolf Jun 2015 #97

The fact that you left out the actual comment while demanding absolution for it caused me to go Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #98

I will try to answer that again Stuart G Jun 2015 #101

That does not explain why you characterized the quote as merely a 'dumb comment'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #105

That was wrong on my part. Stuart G Jun 2015 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2015 #106

I think you have your answer etherealtruth Jun 2015 #111

Yes. Even if she never made explicitly racist comments in class, there is still her implicit bias. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #115

Uhh -- YEAH. It was a long racist rant. Bye, bye to this bigoted creep. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #116

Depends on the comment, but in this case absolutely. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #118

had one in our district get fired over a fb post arely staircase Jun 2015 #119

She should have been fired for two reasons mythology Jun 2015 #123