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alp227

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68. What the racist teacher said was far beyond an opinion.

Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:01 AM

Jun 2015

That "opinion" is a sign that the teacher cannot do her job fairly to all children regardless of race, unlike "pro gay/pro choice/non Christian" opinions. That's the "free speech absolutist" problem I'm noticing even in DU juries: bigotry dismissed as "just an opinion".

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Stuart G Jun 2015 OP

I guess it would depend on the comment. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #1

Making racist comment about policeman who drew gun and sat on black teenager Stuart G Jun 2015 #3

Yes, that teacher should be fired. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2015 #5

I agree, she needed to be fired...nt StopTheNeoCons Jun 2015 #10

exactly uppityperson Jun 2015 #120

Do you think it is an accident the black kids are the ones who get tblue37 Jun 2015 #76

I was gonna say no, but then read the quote 6chars Jun 2015 #79

For that comment? Jamastiene Jun 2015 #80

Absolutely. Ms. Toad Jun 2015 #95

That person has no business teaching children. yardwork Jun 2015 #108

How does what she obviously feels transfer to her students? djean111 Jun 2015 #2

Do we know for sure, that these opinions were indeed transfered to her students? Stuart G Jun 2015 #13

we can assume that they will be. there is a very strong presumption that geek tragedy Jun 2015 #24

People who are that blatently racist are ALWAYS going to transmit those feelings into behavior. alphafemale Jun 2015 #43

Ok, well aside from that Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #49

i'm only racist after 5pm noiretextatique Jun 2015 #70

I wouldn't want my child sitting in one of her classrooms notadmblnd Jun 2015 #102

that wasn't a dumb comment. It was a racist screed. cali Jun 2015 #4

You nailed it, Cali. brush Jun 2015 #7

Exactly. Why is it even a question whether she should be fired? Good heavens. If I Nay Jun 2015 #29

She shouldn't be in front of ANY children, minority or not. madinmaryland Jun 2015 #62

It depends. If you're talking about the teacher who wrote: lovemydog Jun 2015 #6

She Lost Me At "the blacks" ProfessorGAC Jun 2015 #38

I'd have to question every grade she's ever given in the past daredtowork Jun 2015 #78

she's not only racist, she's barely literate noiretextatique Jun 2015 #71

Yeah, I think making racist comments on Facebook is grounds MineralMan Jun 2015 #8

Should someone with rascist views be teaching children? Can they really be fair to all students FSogol Jun 2015 #9

Nope and nope. nt Nay Jun 2015 #31

sometimes if you are correcting spelling hfojvt Jun 2015 #83

That's the real issue Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #117

That teacher deserved to lose her job over those comments. Paladin Jun 2015 #11

It depends how bad the statement is and whether its possible it was misconstrued. stevenleser Jun 2015 #12

I think it was enough to fire a teacher treestar Jun 2015 #14

People post lots of things on the internet that should not be posted. Stuart G Jun 2015 #18

she's a white supremacist. no need to inquire further. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #21

Stupid is a stupid does TexasProgresive Jun 2015 #28

why should they waste money on her? noiretextatique Jun 2015 #82

In this case, YES! nt frogmarch Jun 2015 #15

Did she have tenure? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #16

I never really understood the concept of tenure to elementary, or even high school students. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #22

no but to take one example dsc Jun 2015 #53

I think her post was extreme enough to be fired over. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #17

What the racist teacher said was far beyond an opinion. alp227 Jun 2015 #68

Yes, I very clearly stated that I think the teacher should be fired. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #72

Yes, extreme enough to get fired..but, due process?, hearing? etc. Stuart G Jun 2015 #87

Yeah, interesting topic in my opinion. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #103

Thank You..that was my reason for that topic. Stuart G Jun 2015 #113

If there's a whites-only school she's qualified to teach there. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #19

Teachers like this are bad for white kids, too. nt Nay Jun 2015 #37

presumably a school with a whites-only admission policy would disagree. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #40

Such as school would be illegal in the US, so straw man. A racist teacher is bad for students of the Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #99

Teachers get fired all the time for comments Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #20

Yes, no, maybe so. It depends on the specific comments. Throd Jun 2015 #23

Not only racist, but she showed HORRIBLE decision making skills by posting it NightWatcher Jun 2015 #25

a mere dumb comment, no? White supremacism, yes nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #26

what's the comment? samsingh Jun 2015 #27

Here ya go. Hate speech. Nasty. Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #33

that's very nasty. the teacher has no business teaching samsingh Jun 2015 #48

one calling for a return to Jim Crow apartheid geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35

Her bigotry is based on ignorance and she is a teacher who embraced bigotry when she decided Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #30

A dumb comment? Insensitive? Saying something stupid? Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #32

Bullying it's the new way to get what you want. ileus Jun 2015 #34

who's doing the bullying in your view? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #36

Always interesting to read the views of people who like to post in RKBA Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #42

gender too. We had a RKBA'er defending Florida's Scarlet Letter Law the other day nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #50

Who's doing the bullying in this case? Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #41

Pretending the consequences of bigoted speech is "bullying." It's the new way to rationalize... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #52

Not a shock coming from you, please explain your comment! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #94

Ask youself two things: Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #39

Some people really should just stay off of social media altogether. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #44

That was NOT a dumb comment. 99Forever Jun 2015 #45

Yes kimbutgar Jun 2015 #46

Honestly, I can't believe you are even asking this. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #47

I am asking this because of this idea. Stuart G Jun 2015 #56

she said she doesn't want black kids in her school or in her geek tragedy Jun 2015 #60

i would not that woman anywhere near my black niece noiretextatique Jun 2015 #73

"Black on white" racism?? kath Jun 2015 #109

If she can't keep it off facebook, she sure as shit can't keep it out of the classroom Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #121

Yes of course she has to be fired, and beware of righty who will find a way to turn (TENURE) randys1 Jun 2015 #51

Why not? BklnDem75 Jun 2015 #54

It was beyond "dumb" ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #55

In that particular case, Yes. Absolutely. Iggo Jun 2015 #57

Absolutely. Igel Jun 2015 #58

Firing her was the right thing to do, and good riddance! DawgHouse Jun 2015 #59

In this case... sendero Jun 2015 #61

Do you think this is a case of reverse racism? nt. LexVegas Jun 2015 #63

What do you mean? nt alp227 Jun 2015 #67

the poster noiretextatique Jun 2015 #74

And he speaks of "black on white" racism in a post above... kath Jun 2015 #110

my opinion Skittles Jun 2015 #64

I bet her black students didn't care for her, either. LeftyMom Jun 2015 #65

If it's a racist comment, absolutely n/t kcr Jun 2015 #66

It wasn't the comment so much as the feelings and attitude behind the comment. pnwmom Jun 2015 #69

as others have pointed out: you are minimizing her comment noiretextatique Jun 2015 #75

Yes Kalidurga Jun 2015 #77

are you the one who made the post about reverse racism and how all the black teachers hated you ? JI7 Jun 2015 #81

Yes, immediately Prism Jun 2015 #84

In this womans case Egnever Jun 2015 #85

Should a moronic, racist teacher be defended on a liberal forum? 6000eliot Jun 2015 #86

Yes. THAT teacher should be fired immediately for THAT comment about THAT issue. Orrex Jun 2015 #88

As to this woman? You betcha. (nt) Paladin Jun 2015 #89

If the comment is "the blacks are the ones causing the problems" then yes. DanTex Jun 2015 #90

Well in this new age of social media, they will be fired. Glassunion Jun 2015 #91

The social media does indeed have a "do it now", "right now" attitude.. Stuart G Jun 2015 #96

Of course not! In 1960s Alabama or South Africa, she would've been Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2015 #92

You are ok with obvious racists teaching? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #93

You got that wrong, I am not OK..with obvious racist teaching...that was not my point at all. Stuart G Jun 2015 #100

Then your mistake was the choice to leave the actual comment out of your post while characterizing Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #104

I did not include the comment for this reason. Stuart G Jun 2015 #107

Unions didn't "institute procedures" Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #122

Reread your OP. You didn't stress procedure, you didn't even use the word. JHB Jun 2015 #114

I'm conflicted. LWolf Jun 2015 #97

The fact that you left out the actual comment while demanding absolution for it caused me to go Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #98

I will try to answer that again Stuart G Jun 2015 #101

That does not explain why you characterized the quote as merely a 'dumb comment'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #105

That was wrong on my part. Stuart G Jun 2015 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2015 #106

I think you have your answer etherealtruth Jun 2015 #111

Yes. Even if she never made explicitly racist comments in class, there is still her implicit bias. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #115

Uhh -- YEAH. It was a long racist rant. Bye, bye to this bigoted creep. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #116

Depends on the comment, but in this case absolutely. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #118

had one in our district get fired over a fb post arely staircase Jun 2015 #119

She should have been fired for two reasons mythology Jun 2015 #123