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cascadiance

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29. I wonder if she originally planned to talk about it when "it was too late" already on Saturday...
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 05:05 AM
Jun 2015

... when she and Obama had hoped that he would be able to sign it this weekend before things got "complicated" on Friday and it is going back to the Senate now. Since it isn't done, rather than her taking a stance on it now like perhaps she had earlier planned by having her speech on this weekend, she simply continued to do the strategy of avoiding talking about it.

This weekend was the perfect opportunity if she really wanted TPP to be stopped unless it had "good things" in it that Obama had promised to say it shouldn't be passed any more once the TAA provision was taken out of the bill that goes back before the Senate. Would have been a good excuse for her to have said the right thing and say, "the bill that is now before congress has now been made weaker and I can't support it any more". The timing offered the perfect opportunity to have her put her stamp on Democrats to stop it in congress now, which could ensure that TPA won't get passed. I'd be very thankful to her then if she were to have done that. Not commenting on it makes her appear to be more a part of the problem rather than the solution. She is just fueling more opposition from many of us that are concerned about this issue now. I'm also looking for newer candidates to primary Wyden in the Senate and Bonamici in the House too.

I might pull back from trying to get DeFazio to primary Wyden, if Wyden uses this opportunity to shut down the TPA in the Senate by using the same logic. That the TAA portion he fought to get put in the TPA bill has been removed in the version that is before him now, and that he and other senators can no longer support it. I think that might rescue him from facing a primary challenger in 2016.

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Why would it? n/t zappaman Jun 2015 #1
You're right. It's really nothing but a minor issue. Bonobo Jun 2015 #10
It is when discussing a candidates kickoff speech. zappaman Jun 2015 #12
Bernie Sanders' stances on immigration and equality are clear. We have only to Google JDPriestly Jun 2015 #18
If you count her book as public TM99 Jun 2015 #30
Thanks. I have not read her most recent book. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #32
lol BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #28
Why should she care about a bill that would let corporate courts overturn our government's laws... cascadiance Jun 2015 #26
HRC - Hope And Change Redux - One Can't Bite The Hand That Feeds - America Never Seems To Learn cantbeserious Jun 2015 #2
To paraphrase Jon Stewart: Learning curves are for wusses! nt truebluegreen Jun 2015 #56
So Then - America Is Forever To Be Duped By Corporate Candidates - How Pessimistic cantbeserious Jun 2015 #57
I'm willing to be shocked by us learning from our mistakes. nt truebluegreen Jun 2015 #59
I understand that TPTB have approved of Hillary, senseandsensibility Jun 2015 #3
Your point? sheshe2 Jun 2015 #4
And then people complained about that and people complained about the complaining Fumesucker Jun 2015 #6
He is speaking about it on the campaign trail BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #11
Well... WillyT Jun 2015 #15
Your point? marym625 Jun 2015 #16
Barnie was among the first if not the first politicians to express his support for JDPriestly Jun 2015 #19
+1000 marym625 Jun 2015 #36
He spoke out about it before that, though. One of the first federal politicians to speak out merrily Jun 2015 #52
It won't matter madokie Jun 2015 #5
She's running a content-free campaign. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #7
She hasn't really started her campaign. zappaman Jun 2015 #13
She announced her candidacy 4/12. Must be a Groundhog Day campaign. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #14
Snap! SoapBox Jun 2015 #20
wonder when the next one will be? Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #40
that's funny. she chose a video, and cannot stand all the visuals of Bernie, so it's a redo! TheNutcracker Jun 2015 #54
The trouble here is that by the time she is able to 'judge this,' PatrickforO Jun 2015 #8
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #9
How could she? fadedrose Jun 2015 #17
She even called it the "gold standard in trade agreements" Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #21
You Doin Ok ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #22
Oh, I'm hanging in there Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #24
Likewise... WillyT Jun 2015 #25
Keep up the OPs Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #31
What Art from Arkansas said. Scuba Jun 2015 #39
I wonder if she originally planned to talk about it when "it was too late" already on Saturday... cascadiance Jun 2015 #29
That is the intention. djean111 Jun 2015 #42
Here we have the Democratic front runner that doesn't mention the trade deal. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #23
I don't expect her to davidpdx Jun 2015 #27
I found the fact she only had 500 more people than Senator Sanders did marym625 Jun 2015 #35
I haven't heard a word of any of her speeches and don't care to davidpdx Jun 2015 #37
You are not missing anything marym625 Jun 2015 #38
Surprise! Hillary Clinton's Big Campaign Speech Didn't Mention Free Ponies For Everyone! thelordofhell Jun 2015 #33
Opposing the biggest piece of shit Corporate Giveaway, Job Killing deal ever attempted... 99Forever Jun 2015 #47
I forgot to K&R marym625 Jun 2015 #34
Fuck huffington post just another hit piece on Hillary bigdarryl Jun 2015 #41
I think that she did mention it. murray hill farm Jun 2015 #50
No suprise at all. That would require a definite I'm for it or I'm against it. Autumn Jun 2015 #43
Hard choices Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #44
"I want to judge this when I see exactly what is in it... Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #45
Whatever she says about it some of us will take whatever she says to prove 1 of 2 things: pampango Jun 2015 #46
She didn't commit to the Fight for $15, either Dems to Win Jun 2015 #48
Bump...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #49
Mentioned FDR more than once, but no opinion on TPP, which she helped negotiate. k. nt merrily Jun 2015 #51
If a candidate can't or won't address the issues I care about... 99Forever Jun 2015 #53
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #61
Well, I'm shocked. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #55
Her spokespeople didn't do any better on the Sunday talk shows Mnpaul Jun 2015 #58
a) She's for it SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #60
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