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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Solly Mack
(97,232 posts)115. Yes. Even if she never made explicitly racist comments in class, there is still her implicit bias.
Implicit bias would affect her understanding, her actions, and her decisions in class in unconscious ways.
Like overt and covert racism - you have explicit and implicit bias. Implicit bias is a bias you may not even be aware is at play - but it directly stems from your conscious thoughts about people along racial, gender, etc. lines)
Let's look at her own words.
"I'm just going to just go ahead and say it...the blacks are the ones causing the problems and this "racial tension". I guess that's what happens when you flunk out of school and have no education. I'm sure their parents are just as guilty for not knowing what their kids were doing; or knew and didn't care.
I'm almost to the point of wanting them all segregated on one side of town so they can hurt each other and leave the innocent people alone. Maybe the 50s and 60s were really on to something. Now, let the bashing of my true and honest opinion begin...GO!"
That's a blatantly racist comment rooted in willful ignorance and stereotypes. She is telling people how she really feels about African-Americans - they are uneducated and it's generational (because that's how she sees African-Americans), that any "racial tension" that exist is brought on by the victims of discrimination - not those doing the discriminating (because that's how she sees white people - just trying to get along in a world where nonwhites complain about everything). Then she goes on to tell the world how she thinks African-Americans are violent thugs who need to be separated so they can hurt each other instead of - white people. Oh, she says "innocent people" but she means white people - like herself and the abusive cop.
What this means is that her thoughts, her feelings, her beliefs will (no exceptions) manifest themselves into unconscious acts/decisions/ means of understanding - or implicit bias.
This will determine how she treats her students. She may not even be aware of what she's doing as she grades papers - but she'll still grade the papers of her African-American students more severely than her white students. Her attitude about her students' parents will spill over onto how she sees the student. She'll treat them differently.
White parents = good parent = student gets treated better.
African-American parents = uneducated, trouble making lazy thug who doesn't care about their kids = student gets treated worse.
She'll be more critical of her brown skinned students. She'll address them differently. She'll consider their answers weaker or dumb.
Her racism will, in all ways, impact the quality of education she passes on to her nonwhite students.
If you were to ask her if she does these things, she'd tell you, "No". And truth is the bias is so ingrained that people are often times unaware they are doing these things - hence, implicit bias.
So, yeah. She should have been fired. Frankly, all racist educators should be fired. (and cops, judges, public defenders, etc.) - Because absolutely none of them are capable of separating their racism from their actions and decisions. People in a position of public trust can and do adversely affect the lives of those they harbor racism/bigotry against and that's never a good thing. Just look at sentencing disparities, rates of conviction for the same crimes, and who, disproportionately, populates our prisons ... can't blame all of that on the lack of money.
No one escapes implicit bias - No one. But some people get up every morning knowing they have to fight against the urge to give in to the environment that helped shaped their early years. Sometimes it comes from your parents and home-life, sometimes it comes from your peers. Usually, one enforces the other. But people can learn and people can become aware and people can change - if they want to.
That woman's students can't afford to wait for her to change. Justice can't wait for police and judges and public defenders to change either. It's waited long enough.
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Do we know for sure, that these opinions were indeed transfered to her students?
Stuart G
Jun 2015
#13
People who are that blatently racist are ALWAYS going to transmit those feelings into behavior.
alphafemale
Jun 2015
#43
Should someone with rascist views be teaching children? Can they really be fair to all students
FSogol
Jun 2015
#9
It depends how bad the statement is and whether its possible it was misconstrued.
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#12
I never really understood the concept of tenure to elementary, or even high school students.
Travis_0004
Jun 2015
#22
Such as school would be illegal in the US, so straw man. A racist teacher is bad for students of the
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#99
Not only racist, but she showed HORRIBLE decision making skills by posting it
NightWatcher
Jun 2015
#25
Her bigotry is based on ignorance and she is a teacher who embraced bigotry when she decided
Jefferson23
Jun 2015
#30
gender too. We had a RKBA'er defending Florida's Scarlet Letter Law the other day nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#50
Pretending the consequences of bigoted speech is "bullying." It's the new way to rationalize...
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#52
If she can't keep it off facebook, she sure as shit can't keep it out of the classroom
Cal Carpenter
Jun 2015
#121
Yes of course she has to be fired, and beware of righty who will find a way to turn (TENURE)
randys1
Jun 2015
#51
are you the one who made the post about reverse racism and how all the black teachers hated you ?
JI7
Jun 2015
#81
You got that wrong, I am not OK..with obvious racist teaching...that was not my point at all.
Stuart G
Jun 2015
#100
Then your mistake was the choice to leave the actual comment out of your post while characterizing
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#104
The fact that you left out the actual comment while demanding absolution for it caused me to go
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#98
That does not explain why you characterized the quote as merely a 'dumb comment'.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#105
Yes. Even if she never made explicitly racist comments in class, there is still her implicit bias.
Solly Mack
Jun 2015
#115