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DanTex

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64. I don't know, you should probably ask the OP that.

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:36 AM

Jun 2015

I can only speculate as to the motivations of people that constantly bash leading Democrats like Hillary and Obama. I know that this is exactly what the GOP wants and what they encourage, but I truly don't know why people claiming to be the left decide to play along.

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Request: can we simply call the TPP a *Republican* bill [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 OP

Uh oh. neverforget Jun 2015 #1

Scootch over... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #3

Cheers! neverforget Jun 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #18

While we're at it, let's just call the Hillary bashers "Republicans" DanTex Jun 2015 #2

You can call those who don't support Hillary Clinton whatever the hell you want. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #16

It appears that the definition of "liberal" has changed dramatically Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #35

You can thank the Third Way for that. Former DLC. They are deathly afraid of the Left who they know sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #43

Great synopsis, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #44

+1 nt rbnyc Jun 2015 #61

If they started their own party, it would have failed. Infiltrating and Zorra Jun 2015 #67

It is far more profitable and efficient to conquer the world without war. hifiguy Jun 2015 #78

Precisely. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #68

As usual, your words pack a multi-megaton truth bomb. hifiguy Jun 2015 #76

I think "Republican" is probably too generous for people who think there's not DanTex Jun 2015 #54

You're doing fine all by yourself... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #56

Interesting non sequitur. DanTex Jun 2015 #63

So people farther to the left of you are 'Republicans'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #49

I'm talking about people who suffer from mass delusions and don't care about DanTex Jun 2015 #55

So let's see, we've redefined 'bashers' and now 'republicans'.... daleanime Jun 2015 #58

I don't know, you should probably ask the OP that. DanTex Jun 2015 #64

My OP was bashing? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #69

Pretzel logic! Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #100

So the GOP doesn't like the TPP? Strange seeing someone defend the GOP and the bill they love so Rex Jun 2015 #85

Good response. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #99

The TPA bill and TPP itself are both Republican policy priorities. pa28 Jun 2015 #4

How do we know aspirant Jun 2015 #6

IIRC, NAFTA also had most Republican support and most Dems opposing. ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2015 #7

oh Manny - .... 840high Jun 2015 #8

It is a Republican bill. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #9

I agree 100% Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #10

Anyone who denies that inescapable fact is hifiguy Jun 2015 #80

No it really isn't. It's a comprehensive trade reform bill, much more than an FTA. ucrdem Jun 2015 #11

Didn't lobbyists from multi-national corporations help write it? That alone would make it a R bill. jwirr Jun 2015 #13

The USTR wrote it which means, yes the lobbyists wrote it. The USTR is nothing but a revolving Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #25

Thank you. I thought so. jwirr Jun 2015 #26

Also, don't forget........ Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #31

I did know that it was written by GHW bush and only passed because Clinton was in office. No jwirr Jun 2015 #70

Lobbyist just don't lobby Rs. SoS Clinton helped Exilednight Jun 2015 #46

I think that says more about 'SoS Clinton' than it does Democrats as a whole. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #50

That HRC is owned by the corporatists and the MIC is the worst-kept secret hifiguy Jun 2015 #81

You're right, sort of. When legislation is written, IN SECRET, by Multi National Corporations, sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #71

Well, there is a reason that Republicans are out of ideas. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #12

Obama said it's fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years JonLP24 Jun 2015 #39

He left out the word 'stupid'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #51

+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #59

I'm sure it was an unintentional omission Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #66

That's OK with me Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #14

How about an . . FairWinds Jun 2015 #15

You haven't heard? If you are for or against TPP is a secret & is why this is called a secret deal. gordianot Jun 2015 #17

Perhaps this was his 11th dimensional chess strategy all along. zeemike Jun 2015 #19

He has a rook, a pawn, and a king left on the board Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #40

That's why this is his *second term* priority. Marr Jun 2015 #20

China lobbied the 96 elections hard JonLP24 Jun 2015 #34

And the impotent MSM forgets... SoapBox Jun 2015 #21

Yet again you want to take credit away from Obama! joshcryer Jun 2015 #22

Ok, that was funny! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #52

Of course it's a Republican agreement. RichVRichV Jun 2015 #23

Spot on post Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #29

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Jun 2015 #45

At least the ACA wasn't based on a Heritage Foundation idea nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #24

Well it kind of was - Romney Care. jwirr Jun 2015 #27

That's NTF's post's exact point. Duppers Jun 2015 #82

More like a Republican wet dream. nt JeffHead Jun 2015 #28

It's actually an agreement for America and the world's future, some folks are too myopic to get it Hoyt Jun 2015 #30

Hoyt, you need to apply for a job on the Comedy Channel. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #33

Better than TPP is gonna send my job to Mexico so I'm against it no matter how good Hoyt Jun 2015 #38

Here's a summary of why we need the TPP Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #41

Most people probably don't know this but Bush was there for first round of TPP negotiations JonLP24 Jun 2015 #32

Call it what it is AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #36

TPF Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #37

I don't know much about that guy JonLP24 Jun 2015 #42

Just like the Bush tax cuts he fought so hard to make permanent. nt RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #47

You do know that the top income tax rate is back to its Clinton-era level? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #57

It is a Republican bill . . . but why is Obama supporting it? Vinca Jun 2015 #48

Mr bipartisan? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #53

Corporate political spending thanks to our Supreme Court. Obama B Calm Jun 2015 #74

no, its a corporate interests bill, and both parties have guilt Amishman Jun 2015 #60

None more so than those who own the corporations responsible for drafting it. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #104

Damn right it's a republican bill, so was NAFTA. B Calm Jun 2015 #62

Keep hammering that wedge, Manny...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #65

Well... MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #75

"bohnertrade" grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #72

The republican base prefers to call it "Obamatrade". They don't like it at all to say the least. pampango Jun 2015 #73

And Democrats in Congress don't like it Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #97

You're right. The tea party congressmen are the only ones who actually follow their base's wishes. pampango Jun 2015 #102

Oh, FFS Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #105

It is actually pretty hard for me to believe that Democrats in the base are clueless pampango Jun 2015 #106

How can the base have an opinion of a secret agreement? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #107

Only one political party's platform calls for support of the TPP Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #77

Great point! nt City Lights Jun 2015 #87

Great point, except that it's false Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #91

So supporting the TPP is in both party platforms. City Lights Jun 2015 #95

Um, you must have missed this part of the Republican platform Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #90

I stand corrected. Both parties support the TPP Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #93

Except that the majority of Democrats in Congress don't support it Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #96

They are acting in contravention to the Democratic Party's official stance Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #103

Somebody should tell Republicans that whatthehey Jun 2015 #79

Someone should tell the Republican Party that Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #92

This is Obama's baby. bigwillq Jun 2015 #83

They love it, their votes prove it so I have no problems say it. Rex Jun 2015 #84

I do NOT and can NOT understand Obama's support of TPP. KauaiK Jun 2015 #86

I don't understand it either. He is aligned with the Republicans against the Dem Party. If we could sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #89

No Pastiche423 Jun 2015 #88

I await your Charleston thread. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #94

Imagine a "Reagan Economic Zone" Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #98

Tbaggers are against TPP too. They don't like trading with foreigners. Strange alliance. Hoyt Jun 2015 #101