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18. I have never met a woman who wasn't strong. As for strong political women in America

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:19 AM

Jun 2015

we have some great ones. Two that come to mind immediately are Hillary Clinton and Liz Warren. I don't think that anyone would be afraid to have either, or for that matter any women to lead our nation. Hillary came close in 2008 but the voters chose another.

I don't get your paragraph on Europe in the Middle Ages and saying you see a lot more of the same. I don't get it, I don't see it. I think that a woman who could move people with a spiritual message would be well received. Of course a spiritual message to me would be one that resonates in terms of what needs to be done to fix the massive problems the country and the people have. Take Elizabeth Warren for example, she saw the problem, even before it happened that was created by banks and the lack of oversight and she speaks out against it, I see that as a spiritual message. Look what Obama has said about her because she is openly opposed to the TPP. A leader leads by having a vision of what can and needs to be done and then does it.

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What's Our Problem with "Strong" Women? [View all] McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 OP

Do you really think there is anyone on DU who really thinks that way anymore? jwirr Jun 2015 #1

Yes. chervilant Jun 2015 #2

I do...some of the MRA dudes. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #3

It's not just dudes. n/t seaglass Jun 2015 #11

That's for sure. kcr Jun 2015 #12

Why do you think that strong women Autumn Jun 2015 #19

They could just pipe up with their opinion treestar Jun 2015 #20

So what you are saying is that because you don't like how other strong women speak Autumn Jun 2015 #26

BINGO! nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #32

Where do you get that? treestar Jun 2015 #33

No it's not. A woman saying "you don't speak for me" Autumn Jun 2015 #34

I know what I said and tried to explain it treestar Jun 2015 #37

I'm not being uncivil and a victim and I have not been rude. Autumn Jun 2015 #42

Autumn, why don't we ever see that comment towards any other group on DU? seaglass Jun 2015 #41

They can say that if they chose and yes I have seen a few people Autumn Jun 2015 #43

LOL - you are being criticized for asserting your "truths". closeupready Jun 2015 #44

Yeah, in other words I shouldn't speak for myself. Autumn Jun 2015 #49

DU is sometimes comedy gold. closeupready Jun 2015 #55

Yes we do all speak for ourselves and that should be really obvious. I don't have any issue with seaglass Jun 2015 #48

Thanks seaglass. I did take a bit of flack over that. Autumn Jun 2015 #52

Yes. Some women like to be the exceptions in the old sexist order treestar Jun 2015 #22

That was my mother. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #28

And my mother was an authoritarian, bullying and abusive woman polly7 Jun 2015 #40

Is it someone here you believe is fond of pats on the head? nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #45

Whether they know it or not, Bonobo Jun 2015 #51

My heart needs protectin', and so do I, I, I, I.... closeupready Jun 2015 #56

Yep, a few kcr Jun 2015 #74

They can't be that obvious. polly7 Jun 2015 #75

Wow. I have not run across this or else I am just immune to it. jwirr Jun 2015 #5

I saw a post like that today shenmue Jun 2015 #6

Yay for strong, boo for hawkish. nt Bonobo Jun 2015 #4

Yes. Strong = Elizabeth Warren. Abusive = Hillary Clinton. closeupready Jun 2015 #29

What you said. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #30

You have to vote to invade Iraq in order to be "strong"? n/t eridani Jun 2015 #7

And make speeches about "traditional enemies" Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #9

Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, ... delrem Jun 2015 #8

These are not strong women. Skidmore Jun 2015 #21

Or on a more serious note than those two morons, hifiguy Jun 2015 #62

Because Clinton and Thatcher are so similar? Okay then.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #64

I would call them neither terribly similar nor terribly dissimilar. hifiguy Jun 2015 #65

I don't have a problem with Hillary because she's a "strong" woman. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #10

Best post of the day on the matter. ^ Exilednight Jun 2015 #13

+2 ^^^ Great post! /nt RiverLover Jun 2015 #15

^^ Thread win. winter is coming Jun 2015 #25

Awesome post! peacebird Jun 2015 #35

+5 davidpdx Jun 2015 #71

"Witches" get a bad rap. Wiccan is a religion with Nature as God. RiverLover Jun 2015 #14

Agree with you on that! peacebird Jun 2015 #36

I've heard stories that during the Sixties "Youth Revolution", no_hypocrisy Jun 2015 #16

I don't have any problem with strong women. LWolf Jun 2015 #17

I have never met a woman who wasn't strong. As for strong political women in America Autumn Jun 2015 #18

Seriously? I've met both men and women who were quite weak. never? bettyellen Jun 2015 #24

I have never met a weak woman. All the women in my life have been Autumn Jun 2015 #27

I guess I just come across a more diverse group of people- you've been so fortunate ... bettyellen Jun 2015 #58

I have a very diverse group of friends and family. Autumn Jun 2015 #59

Well- not in terms of strength, lol. bettyellen Jun 2015 #63

Raising hand here -- I'm a woman and I'm weak. betsuni Jun 2015 #47

That's a health issue and a rough one. Autumn Jun 2015 #50

There's strong and then there's abusive. closeupready Jun 2015 #23

True. nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #69

Speaking as an older woman looking back leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #31

I have some optimism on that treestar Jun 2015 #39

That's good news. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #54

To be honest, as a man, I think men who "buy into the closeupready Jun 2015 #57

I think an awful woman boss would fire you for that. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #67

Like many people, I lose it sometimes, but generally I would never closeupready Jun 2015 #72

No one should have to get that upset on the job. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #73

Very true about being your own boss treestar Jun 2015 #66

I have no problem with a strong Woman madokie Jun 2015 #38

There's a big difference between strong belligerant and just pushy. nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2015 #68

My wife isn't madokie Jun 2015 #70

Week Men One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #46

Who is this "WE" that you speak of? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #53

Who is this "Our" you speak of? 99Forever Jun 2015 #60

I like strong women. Obnoxious ones? Not so much. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #61