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JDPriestly

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28. The president will take the fall, like it or not.

Mon May 14, 2012, 12:50 PM

May 2012

A win in Wisconsin will embolden Republicans and make them feel invincible.

To the contrary, a loss in Wisconsin will discourage Democrats and depress us.

Winning in Wisconsin is the key to an Obama victory in November. If Obama doesn't care about unions, working people and local government in Wisconsin, what in the world does he care about?

Same for the DNC.

Obama should have been out there working for the working people of Wisconsin way back last winter.
The DNC and the unions need to put some muscle into the Wisconsin race -- lots of it.

If Obama wants to win in November, he has to understand that the people's movement in Wisconsin is his movement. Democrats have to win in Wisconsin if Obama wants to win in November.

The only way Obama can bring Hope to Democrats is to help the people of Wisconsin win their state back.

Has Obama been raptured by DC and the hot-shot international set that hob-nob there?

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Walker up by 9-points in new WI Recall poll, WI Dems upset with DNC [View all] WI_DEM May 2012 OP

How do we turn this around? People, a ROCK would be a better governor lastlib May 2012 #1

In the end it will come down to who gets more of their supporters to the polls WI_DEM May 2012 #3

I am not sure I like the idea of recalls hfojvt May 2012 #63

Let me tell you what happened in California. JDPriestly May 2012 #72

I'm not in Wisconsin any more hfojvt May 2012 #87

(Blink, blink) TheWraith May 2012 #137

We could let the DNC know that we expect SOME of our money to go there. . . n/t annabanana May 2012 #4

We should be calling and e-mailing the dnc and letting movonne May 2012 #34

We're doing it!...As of yesterday morning Signon.org had 100,000 signatures urging the DNC whathehell May 2012 #138

Some of this will turn around as Barrett's media effort gains traction, HereSince1628 May 2012 #35

And time is getting short! Cal33 May 2012 #65

Yeah. AverageJoe90 May 2012 #117

K&R PatSeg May 2012 #2

k&r flamingdem May 2012 #5

I predict Walker survives the recall. Bake May 2012 #6

Think there's a chance Romney might pick him for a running mate if he does survive? TheMightyFavog May 2012 #15

the labor protests may not have been popular either hfojvt May 2012 #69

I predict it will be very close and that the D wins. RBInMaine May 2012 #97

Because.... BlueDemKev May 2012 #105

They should be furious and I can't help but wonder why the DNC isn't stepping in.. whathehell May 2012 #7

only 7 posts in before obama gets blamed if barrett loses.. not bad... dionysus May 2012 #9

Pathetic... whathehell May 2012 #29

I just remember the "comfortable shoes" ruse Plucketeer May 2012 #61

True. whathehell May 2012 #78

I don't know if I'd blame Obama but I'd certainly blame the DNC. Chan790 May 2012 #38

What would "overly pro-labor" look like? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #11

Like maybe in Penn. where Dems have majority they don't vote to strip collective bargaining Bandit May 2012 #21

Thank you. whathehell May 2012 #30

I'll tell you what it would look like whathehell May 2012 #27

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but not everyone agrees with your assessment. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #44

No, and not everyone -- especially people who actually support unions -- agrees with you either whathehell May 2012 #48

Oh, so President Obama was elected to hype unions and build their membership? Really? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #50

You don't understand that organized labor is a TRADITIONAL ALLY of the Democratic Party? whathehell May 2012 #54

Oh, and I certainly understand the ties between the Democratic Party and Unions. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #59

I'm taking it whathehell May 2012 #79

Is there a picket line? You see there's the faction of WI organizers who told the president.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #82

Um, there was more than a "picket line" whathehell May 2012 #85

Did I admit that I "didn't know anything about unions"? I said, I've never been a member. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #88

Did I say that I was a union member? whathehell May 2012 #90

One reason that Democrats aren't strong is the South is the lack of union members JDPriestly May 2012 #74

Thank you.....n/t whathehell May 2012 #92

...and a lack of an educated souls BlueDemKev May 2012 #104

Democrats support unions. JDPriestly May 2012 #73

Oh please stop regurgitating wsws talking points. Ugh. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #76

They blame the DNC? Who here sends money to the DNC? Have you seen the many posts..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #8

well it only took 7 posts for someone to preemptively blame Obama if the dem loses... dionysus May 2012 #10

That's exactly it. It's preemption. Some DU'er are setting the president up to take the fall.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #13

Good point, blaming Obama is weak and invalid, blame Koch money I suppose flamingdem May 2012 #14

first, people say he should stay out of it. now, if the dems lose it'll be his fault for not being dionysus May 2012 #25

Were you in on the planning meetings? Sounds the critics are prepared for any contingency. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #62

The president will take the fall, like it or not. JDPriestly May 2012 #28

President Obama and the DNC didn't recall Scott Walker. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #45

just wondering...were WI Dems wrong (in your opinion) for recalling Scott Walker? nashville_brook May 2012 #49

Not at all. They should have, and they did. What I'm objecting to is the preemptive blame game, Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #53

so, b/c the DNC doesn't have the $ the Koch's have, they shouldn't help? nashville_brook May 2012 #93

Please point out to me where I said, "they shouldn't help". Please? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #94

And they haven't stood tall by the working people of Wisconsin, most of whom are JDPriestly May 2012 #71

Says about as much as your ridiculous hyperbole. "Defending Wall St" is a term used by certain.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #75

perception is politics 0rganism May 2012 #123

"perception is politics". True, but...... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #124

The point is not to blame Obama but to recognize what effect on Obama's JDPriestly May 2012 #32

Spare me the armchair punditry. Obama's not to blame for the disastrous midterms. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #80

Why don't you just declare whathehell May 2012 #83

Because he isn't? Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #86

I wouldn't know it from your posts, LOL. whathehell May 2012 #91

And from your posts, I can certainly see where you're coming from. LOL. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #95

Good... whathehell May 2012 #115

I certainly did. However, it probably wasn't the lesson you thought you were teaching. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #118

Probably not... whathehell May 2012 #119

U Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #120

Oh yeah, your rapier wit is killing me! whathehell May 2012 #121

OKay..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #122

Actually, I show up all the time. JDPriestly May 2012 #89

Well, no one, I'm sure! whathehell May 2012 #31

They are pleading poverty. I was called recently and was unable to help because I had just.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #47

I see that you have an even bigger problem than I thought whathehell May 2012 #56

I send my money right to the source rucky May 2012 #134

What's happening with the criminal investigations of this creep? Why is that not being Lint Head May 2012 #12

it seems that the people of wisconsin love a narcissistic, power hungry newspeak May 2012 #16

One guess .... Arugula Latte May 2012 #107

They just gave another person immunity in the case - that's a good sign. Poiuyt May 2012 #109

Need to make a video that will go viral on YouTube. Lint Head May 2012 #110

Poll is a 1 day robo call taken on mothers day by Il Manu assoc who has given millions to GOP jn2375 May 2012 #17

Thanks for pointing that out mvd May 2012 #130

People hate that man yet are still willing to vote for him - WTF? Initech May 2012 #18

I don't believe it. guardian May 2012 #19

That's my guess, too ... Myrina May 2012 #22

I'd have to agree.... truebrit71 May 2012 #70

It seems suspect to me too... whathehell May 2012 #81

I think the reason the WH and DNC aren't in is because it's a lost cause. Doctor_J May 2012 #20

Bullshit... whathehell May 2012 #36

Thanks for verifying my hypotheses Doctor_J May 2012 #40

Bullshit, again... whathehell May 2012 #52

okay, I agree with we need to take back the media newspeak May 2012 #39

that's why reclaiming it is going to be extremely messy Doctor_J May 2012 #41

"skin in the game." JDPriestly May 2012 #77

Exactly. Protestors have plenty of skin in the game Doctor_J May 2012 #114

+100 whathehell May 2012 #127

No surprise here. Release The Hounds May 2012 #23

That's too bad BlueDemKev May 2012 #24

If Walker loses and the DNC has not supported the Wisconsin Democrats with all they JDPriestly May 2012 #26

I agree, the Walker Recall is a bellweather for the Nov. Election DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #33

You blaming Obama? Imagine that! Ikonoklast May 2012 #42

Exactly! whathehell May 2012 #58

I hope this is just rigged polling data. bluedigger May 2012 #37

Tom Barrett BlueDemKev May 2012 #46

So your case is that Barrett lost last time because he had less votes? bluedigger May 2012 #55

He lost because too many progressives STAYED HOME BlueDemKev May 2012 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueDemKev May 2012 #102

Their site gives no indication of who was polled, where or how. Scuba May 2012 #43

Not Sure What Is Happening In Wisconsin DallasNE May 2012 #51

The Labor Unions nation wide need to step up and take hold in a big way. loudsue May 2012 #57

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, would it help Obama if he would call the DNC and AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #60

Bullshit malaise May 2012 #64

The polls were never showing him losing Thrill May 2012 #66

I'm not at all surprised. The democrats co-opted the movement, channeled their energy into a recall Citizen Worker May 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 May 2012 #68

Contributions to Barrett. ACTBlue is a strong democratic fundraising organization bluestate10 May 2012 #99

I no longer use a credit card. What's the Post Office address to send a check to? Thanks. Cal33 May 2012 #112

Election Fatigue milwaukeelib33 May 2012 #84

Definitely--GOTV is the KEY BlueDemKev May 2012 #106

Tell the DNC what you think! markpkessinger May 2012 #96

Absolute bullshit robo-poll. Others have the momentum going toward the Dem. BULLSHIT POLL ! RBInMaine May 2012 #98

Impossible to believe that Walker is ahead after the devide and conquer bluestate10 May 2012 #100

Scott Walker's Fundraising Letter (Get Your Barf Bag) BlueDemKev May 2012 #103

Well, we should get Rahm in there to fix this. progressoid May 2012 #108

Isn't 'We ask America' a conservative robopollster? BklnDem75 May 2012 #111

seems like they should be mad at voters GusFring May 2012 #113

ATTENTION: Everyone upset with the DNC for LACK of Support for Walker Recall, Please CONTACT below. whathehell May 2012 #116

link not working nt blaze May 2012 #125

This should do it..If not, google "Democratic National Committee" and go to "Contact" page. whathehell May 2012 #126

Thanks! blaze May 2012 #128

You're welcome!...Hopefully, whathehell May 2012 #132

What is the DNC thinking? The general election has a ways to go, and.. mvd May 2012 #129

I agree absolutely and whathehell May 2012 #131

Sadly, the DNC does rub me the wrong way with this mvd May 2012 #133

Thanks...It's really for all of us....We all need whathehell May 2012 #139

BS! Zax2me May 2012 #135

I Guess the DNC is anti-Union fascisthunter May 2012 #136