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KauaiK

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86. I do NOT and can NOT understand Obama's support of TPP.

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 05:32 PM

Jun 2015

It's like he's being blackmailed or owes something to someone. There isn't one shred of benefit out of the agreement. Why would he damage his legacy with this monstrosity?

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Request: can we simply call the TPP a *Republican* bill [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 OP

Uh oh. neverforget Jun 2015 #1

Scootch over... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #3

Cheers! neverforget Jun 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #18

While we're at it, let's just call the Hillary bashers "Republicans" DanTex Jun 2015 #2

You can call those who don't support Hillary Clinton whatever the hell you want. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #16

It appears that the definition of "liberal" has changed dramatically Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #35

You can thank the Third Way for that. Former DLC. They are deathly afraid of the Left who they know sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #43

Great synopsis, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #44

+1 nt rbnyc Jun 2015 #61

If they started their own party, it would have failed. Infiltrating and Zorra Jun 2015 #67

It is far more profitable and efficient to conquer the world without war. hifiguy Jun 2015 #78

Precisely. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #68

As usual, your words pack a multi-megaton truth bomb. hifiguy Jun 2015 #76

I think "Republican" is probably too generous for people who think there's not DanTex Jun 2015 #54

You're doing fine all by yourself... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #56

Interesting non sequitur. DanTex Jun 2015 #63

So people farther to the left of you are 'Republicans'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #49

I'm talking about people who suffer from mass delusions and don't care about DanTex Jun 2015 #55

So let's see, we've redefined 'bashers' and now 'republicans'.... daleanime Jun 2015 #58

I don't know, you should probably ask the OP that. DanTex Jun 2015 #64

My OP was bashing? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #69

Pretzel logic! Jumpin Jack Flash Jun 2015 #100

So the GOP doesn't like the TPP? Strange seeing someone defend the GOP and the bill they love so Rex Jun 2015 #85

Good response. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #99

The TPA bill and TPP itself are both Republican policy priorities. pa28 Jun 2015 #4

How do we know aspirant Jun 2015 #6

IIRC, NAFTA also had most Republican support and most Dems opposing. ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2015 #7

oh Manny - .... 840high Jun 2015 #8

It is a Republican bill. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #9

I agree 100% Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #10

Anyone who denies that inescapable fact is hifiguy Jun 2015 #80

No it really isn't. It's a comprehensive trade reform bill, much more than an FTA. ucrdem Jun 2015 #11

Didn't lobbyists from multi-national corporations help write it? That alone would make it a R bill. jwirr Jun 2015 #13

The USTR wrote it which means, yes the lobbyists wrote it. The USTR is nothing but a revolving Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #25

Thank you. I thought so. jwirr Jun 2015 #26

Also, don't forget........ Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #31

I did know that it was written by GHW bush and only passed because Clinton was in office. No jwirr Jun 2015 #70

Lobbyist just don't lobby Rs. SoS Clinton helped Exilednight Jun 2015 #46

I think that says more about 'SoS Clinton' than it does Democrats as a whole. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #50

That HRC is owned by the corporatists and the MIC is the worst-kept secret hifiguy Jun 2015 #81

You're right, sort of. When legislation is written, IN SECRET, by Multi National Corporations, sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #71

Well, there is a reason that Republicans are out of ideas. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #12

Obama said it's fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years JonLP24 Jun 2015 #39

He left out the word 'stupid'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #51

+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #59

I'm sure it was an unintentional omission Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #66

That's OK with me Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #14

How about an . . FairWinds Jun 2015 #15

You haven't heard? If you are for or against TPP is a secret & is why this is called a secret deal. gordianot Jun 2015 #17

Perhaps this was his 11th dimensional chess strategy all along. zeemike Jun 2015 #19

He has a rook, a pawn, and a king left on the board Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #40

That's why this is his *second term* priority. Marr Jun 2015 #20

China lobbied the 96 elections hard JonLP24 Jun 2015 #34

And the impotent MSM forgets... SoapBox Jun 2015 #21

Yet again you want to take credit away from Obama! joshcryer Jun 2015 #22

Ok, that was funny! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #52

Of course it's a Republican agreement. RichVRichV Jun 2015 #23

Spot on post Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #29

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Jun 2015 #45

At least the ACA wasn't based on a Heritage Foundation idea nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #24

Well it kind of was - Romney Care. jwirr Jun 2015 #27

That's NTF's post's exact point. Duppers Jun 2015 #82

More like a Republican wet dream. nt JeffHead Jun 2015 #28

It's actually an agreement for America and the world's future, some folks are too myopic to get it Hoyt Jun 2015 #30

Hoyt, you need to apply for a job on the Comedy Channel. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #33

Better than TPP is gonna send my job to Mexico so I'm against it no matter how good Hoyt Jun 2015 #38

Here's a summary of why we need the TPP Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #41

Most people probably don't know this but Bush was there for first round of TPP negotiations JonLP24 Jun 2015 #32

Call it what it is AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #36

TPF Elwood P Dowd Jun 2015 #37

I don't know much about that guy JonLP24 Jun 2015 #42

Just like the Bush tax cuts he fought so hard to make permanent. nt RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #47

You do know that the top income tax rate is back to its Clinton-era level? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #57

It is a Republican bill . . . but why is Obama supporting it? Vinca Jun 2015 #48

Mr bipartisan? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #53

Corporate political spending thanks to our Supreme Court. Obama B Calm Jun 2015 #74

no, its a corporate interests bill, and both parties have guilt Amishman Jun 2015 #60

None more so than those who own the corporations responsible for drafting it. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #104

Damn right it's a republican bill, so was NAFTA. B Calm Jun 2015 #62

Keep hammering that wedge, Manny...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #65

Well... MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #75

"bohnertrade" grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #72

The republican base prefers to call it "Obamatrade". They don't like it at all to say the least. pampango Jun 2015 #73

And Democrats in Congress don't like it Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #97

You're right. The tea party congressmen are the only ones who actually follow their base's wishes. pampango Jun 2015 #102

Oh, FFS Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #105

It is actually pretty hard for me to believe that Democrats in the base are clueless pampango Jun 2015 #106

How can the base have an opinion of a secret agreement? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #107

Only one political party's platform calls for support of the TPP Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #77

Great point! nt City Lights Jun 2015 #87

Great point, except that it's false Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #91

So supporting the TPP is in both party platforms. City Lights Jun 2015 #95

Um, you must have missed this part of the Republican platform Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #90

I stand corrected. Both parties support the TPP Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #93

Except that the majority of Democrats in Congress don't support it Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #96

They are acting in contravention to the Democratic Party's official stance Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #103

Somebody should tell Republicans that whatthehey Jun 2015 #79

Someone should tell the Republican Party that Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #92

This is Obama's baby. bigwillq Jun 2015 #83

They love it, their votes prove it so I have no problems say it. Rex Jun 2015 #84

I do NOT and can NOT understand Obama's support of TPP. KauaiK Jun 2015 #86

I don't understand it either. He is aligned with the Republicans against the Dem Party. If we could sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #89

No Pastiche423 Jun 2015 #88

I await your Charleston thread. nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #94

Imagine a "Reagan Economic Zone" Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #98

Tbaggers are against TPP too. They don't like trading with foreigners. Strange alliance. Hoyt Jun 2015 #101