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161. Well, in the UK, for example, it would have been illegal to buy this, or any other handgun.

Reply to truebrit71 (Reply #159)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:00 PM

Jun 2015

That's one big reason why the homicide rate in the UK is like 25% of what it is in the US.

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Bernie Sanders had this to say regarding the shooting. [View all] PotatoChip Jun 2015 OP

Way. K&r uppityperson Jun 2015 #1

Thank you. lovemydog Jun 2015 #2

K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #3

FOX News A Terrorist Organization billhicks76 Jun 2015 #183

K and R (nt) bigwillq Jun 2015 #4

Thank you for posting this. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #5

I think that is a pretty standard reaction. What will be enlightening though is how still_one Jun 2015 #6

Which makes it non-"standard" as you call it. erronis Jun 2015 #20

+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #28

which is what Nikki Haley just did PatrynXX Jun 2015 #65

Why don't we wait to see what they all say before deciding what they'll say? George II Jun 2015 #119

Don't be silly. Wild speculation is such a useful and fun-filled technique. Scuba Jun 2015 #143

Wild, and more often than not, wrong George II Jun 2015 #151

Probably still_one Jun 2015 #150

I understand that some right wing outlets were saying it was not a racial thing, maddiemom Jun 2015 #157

yes indeedy... they had a black pastor on to say it was probably an attack on christians Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #167

Interesting that there would be a black pastor identifying more as a "Christian" maddiemom Jun 2015 #194

Interesting that there would be a black pastor identifying more as a "Christian" maddiemom Jun 2015 #195

whineybutts Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #196

So far he is the only one who called it 'racism'. So that's makes it non-standard, sadly. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #26

"Not good enough, Bernie!" whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #74

waiting to see what Sanders says first.. Voice for Peace Jun 2015 #168

Actually she did make a statement, but did not call it racism. I noticed this on the MSM also sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #192

yes, well said Fast Walker 52 Jun 2015 #7

hopefully he or someone else will mention fox news and hate radio and the nra Doctor_J Jun 2015 #8

I hope they will - but like abortion our politicians seem to be totally chickenshit about using some bettyellen Jun 2015 #10

Yep, and this is why Bernie is cleaning all their clocks. And he's just gotten started. nt Nay Jun 2015 #59

I hope he speaks up about the war on women's reproductive rights again soon. bettyellen Jun 2015 #60

Bernie has been talking about women's rights and racism all his life. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #94

Isn't it a bit odd you 1) assume I'm happy with lip service 2) lecturing me like this? bettyellen Jun 2015 #118

I've said what I have to say. I do not mean to lecture but rather to point to facts without JDPriestly Jun 2015 #128

I get it. You are not shunting it aside, but I do see it happen here. bettyellen Jun 2015 #136

Bernie gets a 100% rating from NARAL on abortion issues. smokey nj Jun 2015 #142

Yes. We're in a smear-rich environment, though, which usually means a fact-free environment. merrily Jun 2015 #189

k and r niyad Jun 2015 #9

Guns are the primary physical tool of racism. onehandle Jun 2015 #11

Gun lovers and racists are the primary tools of Fox. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #12

Like that. You could add several other qualifiers erronis Jun 2015 #24

^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #25

You won't get an argument outta me on that. calimary Jun 2015 #105

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #153

in the hands of cops. And much as we need more effective gun control, it wouldn't solve cali Jun 2015 #21

This event has devolved into the same tired gun parroting on other forums I'm reading.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #31

No, denial of opportunity is the primary tool of racism. nt LittleBlue Jun 2015 #106

+1 Guns are just an enforcement tool. Scuba Jun 2015 #145

I wish he had said something about the need for better gun control. pnwmom Jun 2015 #13

Way to go. Feel better? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #15

Oh, you poor thing LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #30

... GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #35

can you link to Clinton's statement where she addresses that kplzthx? frylock Jun 2015 #41

What's the turnaround time for her focus group? Divernan Jun 2015 #92

Clinton has tweeted her condolences. No mention of gun control. frylock Jun 2015 #95

An all pupose tweet!?! w/ words from a Hallmark card? Divernan Jun 2015 #103

Yup, she managed to say nothing LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #156

Sure, let's use this occasion and his statement of sympathy to bash Bernie. truebrit71 Jun 2015 #42

Bernie is wrong on gun control and this is a reason why. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #43

So you think gun control would have prevented this? truebrit71 Jun 2015 #48

Probably. If you are truly a Brit, then you understand that. DanTex Jun 2015 #152

I am most truly a Brit....but I don't understand how gun control could have prevented this.... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #159

Well, in the UK, for example, it would have been illegal to buy this, or any other handgun. DanTex Jun 2015 #161

True. However, that is comparing apples to oranges... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #162

Yeah, but places like Canada, Australia, etc. have gun cultures. DanTex Jun 2015 #163

Indeed... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #164

They had a gun culture in Australia, but changed. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #187

Yes. Provided it had been enacted, say, 100 years ago. Joe Chi Minh Jun 2015 #169

How would the Brady Bill have prevented this tragedy? frylock Jun 2015 #96

I wonder how many people upset at "using this occasion" defended NYC_SKP KittyWampus Jun 2015 #72

NYC_SKP was banned for gun/shooting issues/comments? cui bono Jun 2015 #149

I wish Hillary would comment on every dead Iraqi. morningfog Jun 2015 #45

Pimping those freshly dead bodies just to take a dishonest cheap shot at Sanders? arcane1 Jun 2015 #61

and Hillary voted for using Great Big Guns on masses of people all at once and in the thousands SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #81

Solve racism. Solve what drives people to murder. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #86

Perhaps he wanted to stick to something useful. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #87

And yet the Brady Campaign gives him a 100% lifetime score. progressoid Jun 2015 #125

Nothing at all about gun control? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #14

people using this tragedy to take potshots at politicians obviously care more about cali Jun 2015 #27

I understand that mass shootings are excruciatingly awkward for Bernie to respond to, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #37

His statement wasn't awkward at all. Do you have a link to Hillarys statement yet? Autumn Jun 2015 #51

You'll have to wait a couple months. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #89

Clearly it was not awkward for him. And I'm cali Jun 2015 #57

You're going to pimp the dead too, just for a cheap shot? arcane1 Jun 2015 #67

President Obama brought up gun control in his response to the tragedy. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #69

You're pimping the dead by making this about candidates n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #73

And presumably those criticizing Hillary's response are doing the same thing? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #79

Anyone capable of even modest critical thinking can read through this thread and see what happened. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #97

I'm pretty sure I've never once complained about Hillary being "trashed". Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #102

Good luck the passive aggressive technique. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #114

I have no illusions about the number of votes I can garner for Hillary Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #115

Totally uncalled for and utterly thoughtless. madfloridian Jun 2015 #70

Does that also apply to those criticizing Hillary's response? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #85

You are all over this thread with rude uncalled for statements. Stop deflecting. madfloridian Jun 2015 #90

If you want a thread containing nothing but unequivocal praise for Bernie's statement, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #99

People are pointing it out that she didn't address it either.. frylock Jun 2015 #100

Disgusting and classlass LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #71

Just when I think the anti-Sanders brigade can't stoop any lower n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #77

Remember Team Clinton's racist dog whistles in the 2008 primaries? LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #80

How would the Brady Bill have prevented this tragedy? frylock Jun 2015 #98

Oh look, it's you. morningfog Jun 2015 #47

Hello, friend (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #50

I am not at all surprised that you care more about political points morningfog Jun 2015 #52

. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #54

But don't call it racism! morningfog Jun 2015 #56

Huh? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #58

I saw nothing in the quote referencing gun control. But then again, I'm literate... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #78

Sickening reply. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #171

k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #16

once again speaking from his heart olddots Jun 2015 #17

Then he should support stronger gun control laws. nt pnwmom Jun 2015 #23

people using this thread to make petty digs clearly care more about that cali Jun 2015 #29

Has Hillary spoke out? Autumn Jun 2015 #38

She tweeted. morningfog Jun 2015 #49

She tweeted huh? Autumn Jun 2015 #53

It was a heartfelt tweet, though.. frylock Jun 2015 #104

It's sad when a candidate has no acess to the media. Autumn Jun 2015 #107

Yep. A tweet. bunnies Jun 2015 #112

Yeah, I had thought to add their statements to the OPs I did on her and Bernie but Autumn Jun 2015 #117

Im glad that Bernie took the time to say something relevant & meaningful. bunnies Jun 2015 #123

He does support stronger gun control laws. PotatoChip Jun 2015 #46

Your ignorance of his record does not justify this disrespect for murder victims arcane1 Jun 2015 #75

He voted against the Brady law after Jim Brady was shot pnwmom Jun 2015 #82

And is rated "F" by the NRA. arcane1 Jun 2015 #91

And how would either of those prevented this tragedy? frylock Jun 2015 #108

You can sue gun manufacturers for defective products. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #122

Factually untrue. beevul Jun 2015 #137

And Hillary? Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #18

deserves its own thread. nt magical thyme Jun 2015 #32

I guess you missed her 10K attendance rally? leftofcool Jun 2015 #126

Was that this "10K attendance rally?" where she was booed and jeered Divernan Jun 2015 #154

Aren't you the trickster...nt SidDithers Jun 2015 #131

She is going to address it 7n her remarks in Reno shortly. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #139

Here you go. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #165

Again, it's a non-statement statement. Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #172

I think you just like to complain about Hillary. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #174

Thank you Bernie. jwirr Jun 2015 #19

This guy was YOUNG too.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #22

Brainwashing and indoctrination of hate continues. SoapBox Jun 2015 #39

In the South they consider their hate to be part of their heritage. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #55

Southern hate. chev52 Jun 2015 #63

Try the states that voted for Wallace. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #66

You mean, like Arkansas? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #173

Tell that to the jail populations. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #176

Tell what to the jail populations? Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #177

The jails are filled with black people who know the system is rigged against them. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #180

Do you have any evidence that Arkansas is worse in this regard Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #181

All the states in the South do it.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #182

And yet, in California, blacks are far more likely to be incarcerated Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #184

Again, showing there's racism elswhere doesn't take away from Southern Fried Racism. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #185

OK, whatever Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #186

Oh please. cwydro Jun 2015 #68

Then you've heard Confederate flag boosters use the terms "heritage" and "pride". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #76

No, actually I have not. cwydro Jun 2015 #88

On that point, white supremacists all over the country know the words for "Dixie". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #109

Lol. That makes me laugh! cwydro Jun 2015 #113

Most think the last words are "play ball!" Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #121

Exactly! cwydro Jun 2015 #132

That's because you don't have to wish you were there. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #133

Lol! cwydro Jun 2015 #138

On the bright side,... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #141

I think they are dead of heat stroke. cwydro Jun 2015 #144

We have these teeny tiny bugs that crawl right through the screens here but they don't fly or bite. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #147

It is unfair to paint Southerners with such a broad brush NikolaC Jun 2015 #110

I never said ALL Southerners are racist..... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #120

It's too bad that many feel like gun control could have prevented this. erronis Jun 2015 #33

Beautiful statement by Sen. Sanders MissDeeds Jun 2015 #34

This isn't about Sanders, what he has to say, snpsmom Jun 2015 #36

He's right. DawgHouse Jun 2015 #40

honorable response heaven05 Jun 2015 #44

The fact that he is unafraid to say the word racism BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #127

The fact he does not vote for sensible gun control bills also speaks volumes. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #160

In order to eradicate racism, we'd have to split the US between liberals Zorra Jun 2015 #62

Perfect!! lark Jun 2015 #64

K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #83

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #84

Similar to President Obama's statement HockeyMom Jun 2015 #93

"Family cooperating with police" Who? HockeyMom Jun 2015 #116

I am Zappaman and I approve this message. zappaman Jun 2015 #101

K&R! Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #111

Sanders is a good egg. AtheistCrusader Jun 2015 #124

Beautifully stated! It's obscene that this kind of crap still happens. Amimnoch Jun 2015 #129

great response JI7 Jun 2015 #130

I can't stand waiting, yeah still waiting for heaven05 Jun 2015 #134

K & R Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #135

JUST ONE MORE REASON WHY I LOVE HIM!! Plus ChiciB1 Jun 2015 #140

So true and so tragic..it is up to all of us to demand much more from our leaders and Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #146

Right on the money. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #148

. mopinko Jun 2015 #155

Sad... Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #158

Wait, what? I heard racism was over in America. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2015 #166

Well done, Bernie. backscatter712 Jun 2015 #170

I agree Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #179

yes sir. spanone Jun 2015 #175

His letter is much better in that it requests donations. merrily Jun 2015 #178

Donations to the church to be crystal. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #188

I'm with you, Bernie. Take your power and speak for me and most of us. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #190

Not So Sure Beowulf42 Jun 2015 #191

Thank you, Bernie......you left guns out of it. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #193