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calimary

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36. My husband was on about that this morning, too.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jun 2015

She was dragged to it. She didn't find her way there just by a personal and quite logical response to the massacre. If it had been up to her, she would have left it in place and not come out - several days later - to call for its removal. If you'll recall, it was NOT her first reaction. It was brought up very quickly after the massacre and she demurred. THAT was her true feeling. Otherwise she would have blurted out, right then, THAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT, that "YES. You know, that's a very good idea. It's unfortunate that it comes after such a horrible tragedy here in Charleston, but this is a perfect time to take that step - away from the past and into the present and future. We need to send a signal that WE are NOT THAT, and THAT is NO LONGER who we are. It's a hurtful symbol, it hurts people, it represents something very ill in our past, and we need to move forward - AWAY from that part of our past. It's long past time."

Now, imagine if she'd said THAT. Or something like that. But she didn't. She didn't grab that very significant moment to lead the change. She hemmed and hawed and it's our heritage and it's a meaningful symbol to so many of our people and we just need to grieve and this is not the time and blah blah blah. Two-step, side-step, cha-cha-cha.

But if she HAD said that, straight off the bat, when this issue was just starting to percolate and the calls for that hate-rag to be removed had just started, THEN I'd be praising her. But, as with jebbie-boy, taking all week to fart around and hem and haw and tap-dance around whether he would have done the same thing his dry-drunk brother did in Iraq, it took her from Wednesday night to Monday morning - FIVE DAYS - to get there. Doin' the two-step, side-step, cha-cha-cha.

It seems like a no-brainer to us. Certainly seems that way to me. There was no other decision possible. But she danced around it and avoided it for days. She gets no pass from me.

And did anybody notice reince priebus there in that gaggle behind her, too? Interesting that he seemed to kinda hide even as he stood in that group. In the live coverage, you couldn't even see him behind her, from the camera angle, unless she moved a little while talking at the mic, and at that, we only saw about half of his face. Then also in this big group shot that they all posed for afterwards, you really had to search for him because he was STILL standing mostly behind somebody else.

Phony. That's how it strikes me. Just for appearances. Just a veneer. If HE had really wanted to make a statement, he would have positioned himself in the front row by Jim Clyburn.

I don't trust it for a moment. And I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a move bubbling up even now - to wait it out for awhile til the heat dies down and they can start bringing the Dixie Swastika back out into the open again. Wouldn't surprise me. These people do NOT want to give up on it. This is another one of their "sincerely-held beliefs." And they won't give it up without a fight. I wouldn't be surprised if they wait on it in the state legislature til December and January, when they think the heat's died down, and then don't get enough votes to have the damn thing removed. And then it'll be shrug, throw up yer hands, and say "well, guess not. Hey we tried. We're so sorry. It's over. Time to move on. Next!"

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It started to become unavoidable. calimary Jun 2015 #1
It wasn't the massacre that did it ... knightmaar Jun 2015 #35
My husband was on about that this morning, too. calimary Jun 2015 #36
One giant step for a SC governor RobertEarl Jun 2015 #2
Rep. Clayburn did Good Work Here!!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #14
Good for her struggle4progress Jun 2015 #3
I hope she goes through with it shenmue Jun 2015 #7
That might be true... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #13
Yep shenmue Jun 2015 #18
I'll be glad to see the flag removed but I don't think it was a factor in the church shooting. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #4
It is a factor in that it lends credibility to racist thought and makes it appear that the state cui bono Jun 2015 #11
Thank You!!! ^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #12
If that's not a signal to people that racism is okey-dokey, I don't know what is. cui bono Jun 2015 #28
Let me add my THANK YOU. underthematrix Jun 2015 #27
Yes, and when the state flies the flag they are endorsing this hatred and racism. cui bono Jun 2015 #29
It's absolutely a factor. If anyone needs further proof, just go to the gunman's own journal. calimary Jun 2015 #37
And now for the weather: KamaAina Jun 2015 #5
The shooter had a Confederate-flag license plate KamaAina Jun 2015 #6
We cannot stop this.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #10
You can shame someone into doing the right thing iandhr Jun 2015 #8
Is there a problem in doing so? LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #9
Of course not iandhr Jun 2015 #16
Nope. By any means necessary. calimary Jun 2015 #38
Haley has visions of going beyond mere governorship Fumesucker Jun 2015 #15
No props from me...she took too long... joeybee12 Jun 2015 #17
She did good Kalidurga Jun 2015 #19
Well, I'd welcome that. If she stirs up shit against herself from the far wrong, then it means calimary Jun 2015 #39
Aww... Liberalagogo Jun 2015 #20
Liberals always win.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #21
She is bullshitting the media. It won't be removed. SC people will see to it that it stays. Hatred AlinPA Jun 2015 #22
2/3 of the members heaven05 Jun 2015 #25
2/3 is a tall order for SC. 2/3 will probably vote to keep it flying. AlinPA Jun 2015 #26
Plausable denial for when the SC legislators vote to keep racism alive and keep it there. There is a Monk06 Jun 2015 #34
That's a pretty high bar. Especially when it's majority GOP in that state legislature. calimary Jun 2015 #40
It only takes a majority vote to remove the 2/3rds requirement for the removal... Spazito Jun 2015 #43
Well, good. You pulled the knife back out 6" n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #23
Notice she says "move the flag from the Capitol grounds". She doesn't say mnhtnbb Jun 2015 #24
Uh, she couldn't do it sooner?!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #30
A day late and a dollar short. ZX86 Jun 2015 #31
Whatever. GoCubsGo Jun 2015 #32
Whoa.. she must have had Some Pressure! Cha Jun 2015 #33
Probably more like VP ambitions. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #41
Everyone is getting all excited and congratulating her? I'd have congratulated her.... George II Jun 2015 #42
Take it down NOW, before Pinckney mourners have to file past it on Wednesday. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #44
Good. lovemydog Jun 2015 #45
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