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Adrahil

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24. Of course, it is all subjective.....

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 12:27 PM

Jun 2015

But I will say I oppose cheap shots against Bernie too, such as the suggestion that he doesn't support racial justice enough, or that he is somehow not pro-woman enough. Those suggestions are bullshit, IMO.

But to me, it's not about advancing a particular political career, it's about ensuring we win the White House, and as many other down-ticket races as possible, in 2016. I don't see how many of the posts here support that effort.

I happen to think Hillary is our best shot at that. I am perfectly willing to listen to arguments to the contrary, but over-the-top nonsense like calling her a DINO or Republican-lite is harmful, IMO. I mean, it sure as hell doesn't convince me that Bernie is the guy to support. But maybe that was never the goal to begin with.

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Stop with the damn dirty politics against other Democrats [View all] LynneSin Jun 2015 OP

Thanks and I agree. At the end of the day, we'll have a nominee and we'll need to pull together. FSogol Jun 2015 #1

Amen to that. tosh Jun 2015 #2

K&R - Harshly negative posts about Democratic candidates are a big turn-off. MineralMan Jun 2015 #3

Bingo! RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #4

Exposing Hillary's many misdeeds is not about Bernie Sanders. It's about avoiding another DINO. Scuba Jun 2015 #5

No offense, but "DINO" is the kind of bullshit... Adrahil Jun 2015 #7

Hey, if you think a pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-TPP woman can be a Democrat ... Scuba Jun 2015 #13

No more and no less than simplistic bumper-stickers are yours... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #17

Of course.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #19

No offense, but we are a divided party. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #35

Post of the thread! LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #64

Indeed rbnyc Jun 2015 #81

Democrats in Congress have 3 sub caucuses: Progressive, Blue Dog, and New Democrat. merrily Jun 2015 #101

We're not THAT divided.... Adrahil Jun 2015 #119

"DINO" is Ignorant bullshite.. "another dino".. is another ignorant cheap pot shot at President Cha Jun 2015 #112

The biggest bullshit anybody can post is calling Hillary Clinton a DINO. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #12

Meh. Scuba Jun 2015 #14

A DIDO (Democrat in Deed Only) is worth a thousand riding the brand. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #50

Bernie Sanders is no Democrat. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #79

Then being one isn't worth the ink I used to fill out my registration. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #109

If he doesn't stand for democratic principles passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #110

Thanks for providing an example of the problem Politicub Jun 2015 #43

I agree with you .. the problem is yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #6

Google the author? Adrahil Jun 2015 #9

All of this stuff takes TIME...and Time means someone else will post it first. yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #15

Why is important that you post it first? Adrahil Jun 2015 #18

If I don't post first someone else yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #30

Just make sure said kitty photos haven't been posted before. Beartracks Jun 2015 #59

Heh...you made me smile!! stop that! yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #29

Yeah fuck yeah yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #31

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Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #42

And we could do with less of your posts around here. I think that'll happen soon enough. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #44

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #45

and your response seems to exemplify the OP's point. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2015 #53

I hope they get rid of you. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #55

Gone LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #58

Thank you. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #62

Enjoy your stay! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #49

Wow. It's like the House Un-American Activities Committee has been reborn. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #51

There is no need to google an author. That's just lazy, echo chamber thinking-- Marr Jun 2015 #40

I wouldn't worry about that so much. Raine1967 Jun 2015 #65

No I am done... yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #66

I understand the frustration. Raine1967 Jun 2015 #68

I have access to many Asian news websites... yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #69

Don't let the trolls and disruptors get you down here Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #85

This person is no troll... yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #87

I take your point Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #90

Sorry Rhiannon I am done... yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #92

I know I'm not going to change your mind Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #93

I am sad about that. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #94

I will post in GD...and yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #96

If it's any consolation, Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #98

You shouldn't let it bother you when someone questions your source. Most of the time I don't know A Simple Game Jun 2015 #78

I'll say this bigtree Jun 2015 #8

but ultimately, this board is about advancing Democrats and defeating Republicans. Adrahil Jun 2015 #10

it doesn't remove your bias to claim that you're for 'advancing Democrats' bigtree Jun 2015 #20

Of course, it is all subjective..... Adrahil Jun 2015 #24

I happen to think the two criticisms you raised are absolutely fair bigtree Jun 2015 #36

Totally. I think we all need to remember it, regardless which Democrat we're supporting. calimary Jun 2015 #88

If you think it is a skewed cheap shot, then defend your candidate passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #114

That's not the point, though, is it? Adrahil Jun 2015 #118

What may be a perjorative reference to you, passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #120

You can ask for comity all you want...People come here to fight! DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #11

Gandhi said this about the 2016 primaries... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #16

Gandhi was so ahead of his time! LynneSin Jun 2015 #32

Well, it looks like at least one of the folks posting 6+ anti-Hillary hit OPs per day is on a stevenleser Jun 2015 #21

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #70

DUers should be able to post the pros and the cons of our candidates. demmiblue Jun 2015 #22

Nothing wrong with negative when it is based on facts and not innuendos LynneSin Jun 2015 #37

Also, starting a meta thread in GD is just asking for trouble. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #23

We are fortunate to have some great candidates in this election. Laser102 Jun 2015 #25

Meta in GD but of course this will be allowed to stand! nt Logical Jun 2015 #26

+1 Of course it will. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #54

Agreed-a Sanders supporter evidently felt that calling me a bad father would win my support Gothmog Jun 2015 #27

I agree 100%. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #28

We can all tell the difference between campaign "hit pieces" and information about a candidate leveymg Jun 2015 #33

K&R liberal N proud Jun 2015 #34

Agreed! Dem bashing helps the GOP lewebley3 Jun 2015 #39

Well said and very true! 40RatRod Jun 2015 #41

I don't think it is helpful to cover up the weaknesses of the candidates. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #46

K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #47

Looks like someone's getting nervous Fearless Jun 2015 #48

This can't be said enough. we can do it Jun 2015 #52

A kay and and arr !! SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #56

Mud slinging can be counter-productive - if Candidate A or candidate A's supporters are spreading hedgehog Jun 2015 #57

K&R mate. Main matter is that whomever wins primary for us wins the General. Amimnoch Jun 2015 #60

It really doesn't count for much what takes place on an online forum tularetom Jun 2015 #61

Amen Cryptoad Jun 2015 #67

You mean like passing the TPP? truebrit71 Jun 2015 #71

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2015 #72

LynneSin, you are about as wrong as you can be. Martin Eden Jun 2015 #73

+1 AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #91

My head and heart totally agree, SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2015 #74

agreed! we'll talk only about past proposals and policies, their role in the party structure, MisterP Jun 2015 #75

More cowbell! HassleCat Jun 2015 #76

"Underground"? jalan48 Jun 2015 #77

+1 rbnyc Jun 2015 #82

Me too. I don't think some of the folks on here really know what the term means. jalan48 Jun 2015 #83

Though I share your view of the word underground, dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #100

I think maybe a mission statement for this site would be appropriate. jalan48 Jun 2015 #102

Seeing David Allen as the DLC site designer didn't answer it for you? dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #103

See my sig line wyldwolf Jun 2015 #106

Thanks for the clarification. I guess the name David Allen didn't ring a bell. jalan48 Jun 2015 #107

No problem dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #113

Thanks for the info. jalan48 Jun 2015 #117

Very good point. kath Jun 2015 #84

I'll just go with the founder of this site's definition of Underground. wyldwolf Jun 2015 #105

You know I love you, but no. rbnyc Jun 2015 #80

DU has O'Malley and Chaffee supporters? progressoid Jun 2015 #86

Metric users for Chafee? LynneSin Jun 2015 #89

My first reaction was to agree. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #95

Very much agree LynneSin. lovemydog Jun 2015 #97

Amen. One of the worst offenders is on timeout. Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #99

Amen, sister Hekate Jun 2015 #104

No negative ads and comments Sean23 Jun 2015 #108

I'm confused...are you talking to Obama? ibegurpard Jun 2015 #111

Here was some dirty politics against Democrats. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #115

It's nice of you to ask, Lynne.. but that's not going to happen. On the plus side.. it only says Cha Jun 2015 #116