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Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
273. The corporate Dems
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jun 2015

do almost nothing that I want. Why should I bother? I seem to lose ground whether we have a corporate Dem or a corporate Repub. Neither one will defend the constitution, reign in Wall St. or quit meddling in the middle east.

We have no chance until we wrest the party from the Third Way corporatists. Broward Jun 2015 #1
what willyt said. 1 trillion percent. roguevalley Jun 2015 #40
Second that. LoisB Jun 2015 #61
AGREED! Rockyj Jun 2015 #118
Yes, I will work & vote only for progressive Democrats. Not for corporatists. Not for DLC/3rd Wayers peacebird Jun 2015 #269
Thom Hartmann.... zentrum Jun 2015 #84
"us"? George II Jun 2015 #144
Well, maybe not you... PatrickforO Jun 2015 #194
Certainly not him. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #197
He also says you MUST vote for WHOEVER the Dem candidate is so as to cause the least harm WHILE randys1 Jun 2015 #277
You are forgetting something else, its called the Republican Party. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #104
Well, Obama is getting shit done really well now. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #113
Good luck with that as the patient is suffering from both internal bleeding cstanleytech Jun 2015 #132
Yes. Same results from being stabbed in the chest and stabbed in the back. HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #251
That's true, which is why in the last two mid terms voters did NOT come out for Third Way/DLC sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #133
Yes and the media ignored the fact emsimon33 Jun 2015 #219
We MUST take our party back from all the Third Way, Corporatist, Trojan Horse, DINO pieces of shit kath Jun 2015 #128
+1! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #198
Yes, we must HassleCat Jun 2015 #227
Not going to happen, they have no shame or souls and we do. Rex Jun 2015 #243
Criticism is not the same as "damn dirty politics against other Democrats" Hekate Jun 2015 #2
... rbnyc Jun 2015 #85
Push polling a rumor that McCain has a love child is dirty politics. Posting at DU is posting at DU. merrily Jun 2015 #90
Amen. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #114
Really, what do you call the ongoing OP's that say if we choose Bernie Sanders we will davidpdx Jun 2015 #170
What do I call them? Stupid. Really stupid. It's June, for God's sake. Everything will shake out... Hekate Jun 2015 #172
The hypocrisy is that we shouldn't criticize Hillary Clinton because we might hurt her chances davidpdx Jun 2015 #173
I stand with you, my dear WillyT. Period. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #3
Thanks Peg !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #11
I also. hifiguy Jun 2015 #32
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #34
Coming from you, the first four words of your post speak volumes. merrily Jun 2015 #80
Indeed. The conscience of DU has spoken. hifiguy Jun 2015 #187
So do I! Thank you! n/t Buenaventura Jun 2015 #203
Damn right. Obama and Senate/House "Democrats" pissed off a LOT of people today. Triana Jun 2015 #4
We are just slaves and cannon fodder. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #5
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #24
I am a liberal first Kalidurga Jun 2015 #6
Shoulder to shoulder Willy T. 99Forever Jun 2015 #7
Agreed !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #12
I agree with you WillYT newfie11 Jun 2015 #8
Thanks newfie11 !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #36
Foolish Sean23 Jun 2015 #9
You're New Here... Welcome To The Maelstrom... WillyT Jun 2015 #13
Serious question, WillyT…. zentrum Jun 2015 #91
When a Democrat gives "fast track authority" to potentially a complete Republican government in 2016 cascadiance Jun 2015 #234
well said nt navarth Jun 2015 #236
And Your Assumption Suggests That Hillary Clinton Is A Corporate Democrat... WillyT Jun 2015 #26
serious doubts Old Codger Jun 2015 #38
Welcome to DU. Good to see so many new posters and infrequent speaking up. merrily Jun 2015 #86
Every time we vote for corporate dems we make a statement... rbnyc Jun 2015 #94
Yes, indeed. Maedhros Jun 2015 #127
+10000 MissDeeds Jun 2015 #135
If we just keep electing more and more corporate Democrats, Maedhros Jun 2015 #255
lol rbnyc Jun 2015 #283
The corporate Dems Mnpaul Jun 2015 #273
that line of reasoning makes sense only if the Dem doesn't do everything in their power to defeat MisterP Jun 2015 #103
There is a reason anyone who considers pushing the Democratic Party to the left Maedhros Jun 2015 #123
Hey, you're back! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #129
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? QC Jun 2015 #155
Hehehe. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #157
Do those also come in the bohemian variety? cui bono Jun 2015 #166
Why is it foolish? Mnpaul Jun 2015 #275
Those were the days my friend Fumesucker Jun 2015 #10
Let's Keep Dancing... WillyT Jun 2015 #14
Unfortunately, he's pretty much doing what I expected deutsey Jun 2015 #15
My First Vote Was For Jerry Brown 1974... Then Jimmy Carter 1976... It's All Gone Downhill Since... WillyT Jun 2015 #17
Well, at least I got to vote for McGovern. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #21
I also first tried to campaign for Jerry Brown when he ran in 1976 for president in the Iowa caucus cascadiance Jun 2015 #223
First POTUS vote was for Carter. Though I had supported Mo Udall hifiguy Jun 2015 #233
always voting "against" more than I'm voting "for." Martin Eden Jun 2015 #92
I Knew What Obama Was About... CorporatistNation Jun 2015 #149
K & R! Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #16
I knew you'd be at this party. hifiguy Jun 2015 #37
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #39
Yes. 99Forever Jun 2015 #100
Preach! [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #130
Right there with you MissDeeds Jun 2015 #136
Bernie or Nobody. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #18
If you aren't pissed off by this Aerows Jun 2015 #19
You voted for the same thing I did. "The Lesser Evil". A Mirage. A Marketing Campaign. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #22
We were had. By masters of deception. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #41
I knew when I saw Summers and Geithner in his inner circle deutsey Jun 2015 #59
Yep. Appoint the chief arsonists to hifiguy Jun 2015 #65
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #44
I'm sure the wise ones will explain it to us all. Finally Democrats and Republicans have a kumbaya. L0oniX Jun 2015 #77
You can vote for whoever you want but when we have a nominee the rules of DU are very clear. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #20
Thanks for the totally unnecessary reminder. HERVEPA Jun 2015 #23
You're welcome. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #25
Not a reminder U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #169
Yep! emsimon33 Jun 2015 #221
indeed nt grasswire Jun 2015 #279
If the choice is between the corporate candidate and one that espouses democratic ideals hobbit709 Jun 2015 #28
I wish you the best in your choice. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #30
Anyone on DU can vote for whomever he/she chooses. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #35
The rules are clear. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #43
By my count we are like 12+ months from that clause Paulie Jun 2015 #96
People are allowed to post their opinions just like me. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #98
You're not sharing an opinion Paulie Jun 2015 #99
No one is stifling anyone. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #102
... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #145
. Jeff Murdoch Jun 2015 #259
JPP Puglover Jun 2015 #276
The battle-cry of the boot-licker. [nt] Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #205
Indeed... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #239
Or not vote emsimon33 Jun 2015 #222
So... The POTUS JUST BROKE DU's RULES ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #45
I am not saying anyone broke the rules. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #49
You're sure doing a lot of hinting about the rules. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #56
Not my rules. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #57
Not the point. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #60
I had no other point but that there are rules here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #62
I'm not buying any bridges. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #63
You don't have to. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #66
Not taking a fucking loyalty pledge for you or anyone else. You know what? If she wins Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #117
You don't have to vote for her and I agree she has to earn your vote. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #119
The Rules? jalan48 Jun 2015 #55
Terms of service. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #58
Thanks, I just read them. jalan48 Jun 2015 #64
Well you can vote for whoever you want. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #69
That makes sense. jalan48 Jun 2015 #79
That is what Sanders is doing. He knows she will likely win but he is pushing her to the left. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #81
Good point- I hope she doesn't drift back to the right though. jalan48 Jun 2015 #83
Doubt Bernie would agree. merrily Jun 2015 #108
Ttp is such a divisive bill. I wish Democrats did not support the damn thing. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #110
Ummm, if you think Hillary "might" ever be against the TPP, NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #231
Please don't speak for Bernie. That is certainly not what he said he's doing. merrily Jun 2015 #106
I think he knows he is the underdog. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #107
Of course. But that is very different from what your prior post said. merrily Jun 2015 #109
I think it is consistent. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #112
Yet very different. Underdog does not equal sure loser. merrily Jun 2015 #175
We disagree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #176
Again, Sanders did not say he knows he can't win. He said something very different. merrily Jun 2015 #177
What words did I put in his mouth? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #178
Um, you said Sanders knows he's going to lose. He said the opposite. merrily Jun 2015 #181
I said he knows she is likely going to win. I can give an opinion just like you can. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #182
Without looking back, you said he knew she was going to win, or was likely to win and then said merrily Jun 2015 #186
Good night. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #188
Can we hold you to that? kath Jun 2015 #212
I doubt it... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #241
Would be super nice though, kath Jun 2015 #246
You Da Man Justin. William769 Jun 2015 #264
Thank you. And I did take the day off and i will be busy the next few days so I won't be on much. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #265
Kiss all the boys boys for me! William769 Jun 2015 #267
Lol I will. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #268
Will you knock it off? He knows she will likely win? Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #120
I am allowed my opinion and I will state it. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #125
And you believe that myth too? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #152
I believe Hillary is a much stronger candidate. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #153
No, the "Bernie is only in it to push Hillary to the left" myth. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #158
Well we disagree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #160
That's a logical conclusion. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #164
Have a good night. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #165
Most of us believe she is not. cui bono Jun 2015 #167
Most in the party disagrees with you and agrees with me. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #168
Most in the party don't pay attention to politics and poll for HRC cui bono Jun 2015 #244
push hillary yikes1 Jun 2015 #179
Exactly. freedom fighter jh Jun 2015 #204
If she wins the primary she will lose in the general. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #201
No advocating for Bernie, or any third party, or for staying home. Those are the terms of service. merrily Jun 2015 #95
Ok-thank you for the info. jalan48 Jun 2015 #97
Bernie is running for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT Paulie Jun 2015 #101
The context of the subthread was what the rules mean relative to a nominee. merrily Jun 2015 #105
The rules apply in the general not now Paulie Jun 2015 #111
Exactly right. Igel Jun 2015 #137
Yes, when we have a nominee, we're in the general and I did not bring up the rules. merrily Jun 2015 #180
You should post that in the [Clueless group] ...but they might ban you. L0oniX Jun 2015 #70
And what group would that be? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #71
The one where you ban people if they ask you a simple question... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #242
Oh you mean the safe havens. Oh ok. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #289
A safe haven for what, though? It mustn't be for posting positive stuff about Hillary Clinton... Violet_Crumble Jun 2015 #292
You asking that in response to that post is very cui bono Jun 2015 #287
Good, I am glad you got a laugh. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #288
Roflmao! BeanMusical Jun 2015 #156
Maybe the Democratic party Aerows Jun 2015 #73
I don't agree. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #76
If you can't match what you say Aerows Jun 2015 #87
I understand and share your disappointment. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #89
Tell that to the moneybags hifiguy Jun 2015 #183
Well if the nominee is Hillary I predict a significant drop in traffic and ads revenue on DU. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #138
They said they were launching it for fun. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #140
Sure, they did it for fun. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #142
Are you upset they made it? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #143
Have you ever heard about the Turing test? BeanMusical Jun 2015 #147
Vaguely. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #148
. Rex Jun 2015 #245
What on Earth? Aerows Jun 2015 #195
its a fact bunnies Jun 2015 #213
Without comment. Aerows Jun 2015 #235
From what I've read the rules are similar to the Hillary group. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #216
The rest of us will just double the money we send to DU leftofcool Jun 2015 #262
Ohhh the power to ban. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #250
I'm with you WillyT Oilwellian Jun 2015 #27
Thanks Oilwellian... WillyT Jun 2015 #47
You rock too, my friend Oilwellian Jun 2015 #121
Word. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #29
Exactly !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #54
Yep. A big fuck you to the 99% from the poodles of the 1%. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #31
Absolutely N/T Old Codger Jun 2015 #33
I'm with you, WillyT! truebluegreen Jun 2015 #42
:fistbump: WillyT Jun 2015 #48
This is our last chance to start removing the 1% from the government. "OUR" omitted because... L0oniX Jun 2015 #46
100% Agreed. We Were Betrayed.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #50
Bernie doesn't take bribes. He works for the people. azmom Jun 2015 #51
I suspect we are at one of those populists moments nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #52
When a dominionist cretin like Cruz hifiguy Jun 2015 #72
Well he is one with his ear firmly in the right wing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #75
I'm with you. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #53
Thanks WillyT! nth Logical Jun 2015 #67
I am beyond seeing enough of this. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #68
People are at what I call The Popeye Point: hifiguy Jun 2015 #74
funny - I can hear popeye's voice reading those words NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #78
It's a memorable meme I have been hifiguy Jun 2015 #82
K &.R rbnyc Jun 2015 #88
I will not vote for anyone who supports the TPP The Green Manalishi Jun 2015 #93
Well said, WillyT MissDeeds Jun 2015 #115
Willy - I'm with you. 840high Jun 2015 #116
From what I can tell, no one is stopping you from working against Democrats. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #122
I am with you, WillyT. glinda Jun 2015 #124
There is one thing that has been playing in my head all day since I heard the news. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #126
K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! Phlem Jun 2015 #131
After 7 years of wussitude, Obama decides to take the gloves off and fight tularetom Jun 2015 #134
Seven Years of Wussitude lovemydog Jun 2015 #139
Yeah I think he wrote that right after "Love in the Time of the Common Cold" tularetom Jun 2015 #146
Gabriel Garcia Marquez was very prescient Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #162
Well now, I don't agree with that. lovemydog Jun 2015 #163
not true at all! ibegurpard Jun 2015 #151
A bit of hyperbole. I can think of many Dems who have done worse. McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #141
Well, there was Bill Clinton, the Rapidly Shrinking Dog tularetom Jun 2015 #154
Preach it, brother! Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #150
If Democrats vote for Clinton TM99 Jun 2015 #159
Yuuup! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #161
First, I am deeply disappointed with the party and President Obama on TPP davidpdx Jun 2015 #171
It breaks my heart to rec this senseandsensibility Jun 2015 #174
I'll stop bashing them MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #184
Don't hold yer breath, Manny. hifiguy Jun 2015 #189
I could think of a better term than "bashing" for what they're doing to us. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #202
I believe Hillary came out against it as soon as her little birds told her it was a fait accompli. Bonobo Jun 2015 #185
Turnout in 2016 will be a disaster if a corporate candidate gets the nomination strategery blunder Jun 2015 #190
Maybe it is time for primary challenges for all blue dogs. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #229
I couldn't agree with you more, WillyT. I'm still fucking furious. My williesgirl Jun 2015 #191
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #206
BUT HE GIVES SUCH PURTY SPEECHES Skittles Jun 2015 #192
So as to grease the skids madokie Jun 2015 #193
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #196
. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #199
Scrap Iron Gadaski Fairgo Jun 2015 #200
I'm with you. mmonk Jun 2015 #207
In a democracy, we're supposed to hold our public servants accountable. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #208
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2015 #209
Electing Hillary means the extinction of Homo Sapiens. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #210
The problem with approaching politics as team sport . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #211
Want ... what my grandfather use to say about "want"... rephrased for HOPE NotHardly Jun 2015 #214
So, just go along to get along then? Maedhros Jun 2015 #256
BINGO. Triana Jun 2015 #215
Oh FFS he has not treestar Jun 2015 #217
When your job is shipped overseas, as countless thousands will be. hifiguy Jun 2015 #237
+1 YoungDemCA Jun 2015 #238
Yes, but they are having so much fun getting the others riled up. leftofcool Jun 2015 #263
The first page of GD is full of people criticizing and working against democrats. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #218
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! emsimon33 Jun 2015 #220
Right on! Keep up the work against Democrats! zappaman Jun 2015 #224
Excellent post Willy, i agree donnasgirl Jun 2015 #225
Well, OK, but... HassleCat Jun 2015 #226
Ho hum what a bore this campaign against Hillary on DU has become and trying to demonize the best Pisces Jun 2015 #228
Pathetic. Maedhros Jun 2015 #257
I agree this thread is pathetic!! Pisces Jun 2015 #271
One issue Democrats uwep Jun 2015 #230
There isn't just one issue of disappointment... cascadiance Jun 2015 #249
There is a difference between being an "Underground" and hiding your head in the sand. staggerleem Jun 2015 #232
From experience, posts that start with Maedhros Jun 2015 #258
Right, because it couldn't possibly be someone being honest with you. We don't do that, right? randome Jun 2015 #266
And just WHERE did you see the word "but"? staggerleem Jun 2015 #270
And my point is proven...[n/t] Maedhros Jun 2015 #272
. randome Jun 2015 #240
Don't forget Don Siegelman. Octafish Jun 2015 #247
Right on, as usual! Hun Joro Jun 2015 #248
Don't be naive DownriverDem Jun 2015 #252
100% in agreement d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #253
Right with you! Hatchling Jun 2015 #254
With ya Wille Nite Owl Jun 2015 #260
I am so sorry you don't like Democrats. leftofcool Jun 2015 #261
as someone who GOTVs, sends everyone voting guides, gets to vote all-Dem most of the time MisterP Jun 2015 #274
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #280
A-fucking-men. CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #278
I'm getting old...is it to soon to say "I give up."? Paper Roses Jun 2015 #281
dang, that's a lot of recs. nilram Jun 2015 #282
from my mind marym625 Jun 2015 #284
Thanks... You're A Great Friend !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #285
Awe! marym625 Jun 2015 #286
So true, the notion that we should ignore the betrayal of these Third Way Dems sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #290
A Last Kick From Me... WillyT Jun 2015 #291
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