A safe haven for what, though? It mustn't be for posting positive stuff about Hillary Clinton... (Reply #292)

In the discussion thread: And Another Thing !!! - The Next Time I Hear That We Are Not To Criticize Or Work Against Democrats. [View all]

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Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:26 AM

Violet_Crumble (35,898 posts)

292. A safe haven for what, though? It mustn't be for posting positive stuff about Hillary Clinton...

Because I was blocked without warning by one host. I won't say who he is as I don't want to be seen as calling anyone out, but apart from one post wishing that host well when he spoke of health issues, the post below is the sum total of what I'd posted in the group. I don't go around attacking any of the Democratic candidates in GD, so I'm a bit confused as to why I was blocked. Do you know why? I would have thought positive contributions about Hillary Clinton would be welcome...

This is the post....

Hello, Hillary Clinton Group. I come bearing gifts!

I saw this in the local paper today and thought you guys might find it interesting to see that both Obama and Hillary Clinton are very popular over here...

Australians love Barack Obama and Pope Francis, don't know China, Japan or India's leaders - poll

Australians would happily host a dinner party with Barack Obama as guest of honour, welcome Hillary Clinton and Pope Francis to the table as warm friends – and gladly see Vladimir Putin suffer food poisoning.

<snip>

Obama's jibes about the Tony Abbott's environmental record at the same meeting hasn't hurt the US President's standing among Australians, with 86 per cent reporting admiration.

If Australians had a vote in the next US election, 77 per cent would send Clinton to the White House – although 19 per cent "don't admire" the former secretary of state and first lady.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/australians-love-barack-obama-and-pope-francis-dont-know-china-japan-or-indias-leaders--poll-20150615-ghnvsg.html

And this interview's from a few years ago, but it's still pretty funny and Hillary Clinton came across as a pretty nice person in it. I don't know if any of you have seen it or are all that interested in seeing it, but I'll post it anyway coz I stumbled across it tonight when I was looking for another Hamish & Andy clip...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11079671

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292 replies	Author	Time	Post
And Another Thing !!! - The Next Time I Hear That We Are Not To Criticize Or Work Against Democrats. [View all]	WillyT	Jun 2015	OP
We have no chance until we wrest the party from the Third Way corporatists.	Broward	Jun 2015	#1
what willyt said. 1 trillion percent.	roguevalley	Jun 2015	#40
Second that.	LoisB	Jun 2015	#61
AGREED!	Rockyj	Jun 2015	#118
Yes, I will work & vote only for progressive Democrats. Not for corporatists. Not for DLC/3rd Wayers	peacebird	Jun 2015	#269
Thom Hartmann....	zentrum	Jun 2015	#84
"us"?	George II	Jun 2015	#144
Well, maybe not you...	PatrickforO	Jun 2015	#194
Certainly not him.	Enthusiast	Jun 2015	#197
He also says you MUST vote for WHOEVER the Dem candidate is so as to cause the least harm WHILE	randys1	Jun 2015	#277
You are forgetting something else, its called the Republican Party.	cstanleytech	Jun 2015	#104
Well, Obama is getting shit done really well now.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#113
Good luck with that as the patient is suffering from both internal bleeding	cstanleytech	Jun 2015	#132
Yes. Same results from being stabbed in the chest and stabbed in the back.	HooptieWagon	Jun 2015	#251
That's true, which is why in the last two mid terms voters did NOT come out for Third Way/DLC	sabrina 1	Jun 2015	#133
Yes and the media ignored the fact	emsimon33	Jun 2015	#219
We MUST take our party back from all the Third Way, Corporatist, Trojan Horse, DINO pieces of shit	kath	Jun 2015	#128
+1!	Enthusiast	Jun 2015	#198
Yes, we must	HassleCat	Jun 2015	#227
Not going to happen, they have no shame or souls and we do.	Rex	Jun 2015	#243
Criticism is not the same as "damn dirty politics against other Democrats"	Hekate	Jun 2015	#2
...	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#85
Push polling a rumor that McCain has a love child is dirty politics. Posting at DU is posting at DU.	merrily	Jun 2015	#90
Amen.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#114
Really, what do you call the ongoing OP's that say if we choose Bernie Sanders we will	davidpdx	Jun 2015	#170
What do I call them? Stupid. Really stupid. It's June, for God's sake. Everything will shake out...	Hekate	Jun 2015	#172
The hypocrisy is that we shouldn't criticize Hillary Clinton because we might hurt her chances	davidpdx	Jun 2015	#173
I stand with you, my dear WillyT. Period. n/t	CaliforniaPeggy	Jun 2015	#3
Thanks Peg !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#11
I also.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#32
:fistbump:	WillyT	Jun 2015	#34
Coming from you, the first four words of your post speak volumes.	merrily	Jun 2015	#80
Indeed. The conscience of DU has spoken.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#187
So do I! Thank you! n/t	Buenaventura	Jun 2015	#203
Damn right. Obama and Senate/House "Democrats" pissed off a LOT of people today.	Triana	Jun 2015	#4
We are just slaves and cannon fodder. n/t	PowerToThePeople	Jun 2015	#5
+1	daleanime	Jun 2015	#24
I am a liberal first	Kalidurga	Jun 2015	#6
Shoulder to shoulder Willy T.	99Forever	Jun 2015	#7
Agreed !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#12
I agree with you WillYT	newfie11	Jun 2015	#8
Thanks newfie11 !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#36
Foolish	Sean23	Jun 2015	#9
You're New Here... Welcome To The Maelstrom...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#13
Serious question, WillyT….	zentrum	Jun 2015	#91
When a Democrat gives "fast track authority" to potentially a complete Republican government in 2016	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#234
well said nt	navarth	Jun 2015	#236
And Your Assumption Suggests That Hillary Clinton Is A Corporate Democrat...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#26
serious doubts	Old Codger	Jun 2015	#38
Welcome to DU. Good to see so many new posters and infrequent speaking up.	merrily	Jun 2015	#86
Every time we vote for corporate dems we make a statement...	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#94
Yes, indeed.	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#127
+10000	MissDeeds	Jun 2015	#135
If we just keep electing more and more corporate Democrats,	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#255
lol	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#283
The corporate Dems	Mnpaul	Jun 2015	#273
that line of reasoning makes sense only if the Dem doesn't do everything in their power to defeat	MisterP	Jun 2015	#103
There is a reason anyone who considers pushing the Democratic Party to the left	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#123
Hey, you're back!	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#129
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?	QC	Jun 2015	#155
Hehehe.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#157
Do those also come in the bohemian variety?	cui bono	Jun 2015	#166
Why is it foolish?	Mnpaul	Jun 2015	#275
Those were the days my friend	Fumesucker	Jun 2015	#10
Let's Keep Dancing...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#14
Unfortunately, he's pretty much doing what I expected	deutsey	Jun 2015	#15
My First Vote Was For Jerry Brown 1974... Then Jimmy Carter 1976... It's All Gone Downhill Since...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#17
Well, at least I got to vote for McGovern.	Fuddnik	Jun 2015	#21
I also first tried to campaign for Jerry Brown when he ran in 1976 for president in the Iowa caucus	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#223
First POTUS vote was for Carter. Though I had supported Mo Udall	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#233
always voting "against" more than I'm voting "for."	Martin Eden	Jun 2015	#92
I Knew What Obama Was About...	CorporatistNation	Jun 2015	#149
K & R!	Le Taz Hot	Jun 2015	#16
I knew you'd be at this party.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#37
:fistbump:	WillyT	Jun 2015	#39
Yes.	99Forever	Jun 2015	#100
Preach! [n/t]	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#130
Right there with you	MissDeeds	Jun 2015	#136
Bernie or Nobody.	Fuddnik	Jun 2015	#18
If you aren't pissed off by this	Aerows	Jun 2015	#19
You voted for the same thing I did. "The Lesser Evil". A Mirage. A Marketing Campaign.	Fuddnik	Jun 2015	#22
We were had. By masters of deception. nt	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#41
I knew when I saw Summers and Geithner in his inner circle	deutsey	Jun 2015	#59
Yep. Appoint the chief arsonists to	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#65
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#44
I'm sure the wise ones will explain it to us all. Finally Democrats and Republicans have a kumbaya.	L0oniX	Jun 2015	#77
You can vote for whoever you want but when we have a nominee the rules of DU are very clear.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#20
Thanks for the totally unnecessary reminder.	HERVEPA	Jun 2015	#23
You're welcome.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#25
Not a reminder	U4ikLefty	Jun 2015	#169
Yep!	emsimon33	Jun 2015	#221
indeed nt	grasswire	Jun 2015	#279
If the choice is between the corporate candidate and one that espouses democratic ideals	hobbit709	Jun 2015	#28
I wish you the best in your choice.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#30
Anyone on DU can vote for whomever he/she chooses.	Le Taz Hot	Jun 2015	#35
The rules are clear.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#43
By my count we are like 12+ months from that clause	Paulie	Jun 2015	#96
People are allowed to post their opinions just like me.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#98
You're not sharing an opinion	Paulie	Jun 2015	#99
No one is stifling anyone.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#102
...	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#145
.	Jeff Murdoch	Jun 2015	#259
JPP	Puglover	Jun 2015	#276
The battle-cry of the boot-licker. [nt]	Jester Messiah	Jun 2015	#205
Indeed...	truebrit71	Jun 2015	#239
Or not vote	emsimon33	Jun 2015	#222
So... The POTUS JUST BROKE DU's RULES ???	WillyT	Jun 2015	#45
I am not saying anyone broke the rules.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#49
You're sure doing a lot of hinting about the rules.	hobbit709	Jun 2015	#56
Not my rules.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#57
Not the point.	hobbit709	Jun 2015	#60
I had no other point but that there are rules here.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#62
I'm not buying any bridges.	hobbit709	Jun 2015	#63
You don't have to.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#66
Not taking a fucking loyalty pledge for you or anyone else. You know what? If she wins	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#117
You don't have to vote for her and I agree she has to earn your vote.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#119
The Rules?	jalan48	Jun 2015	#55
Terms of service.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#58
Thanks, I just read them.	jalan48	Jun 2015	#64
Well you can vote for whoever you want.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#69
That makes sense.	jalan48	Jun 2015	#79
That is what Sanders is doing. He knows she will likely win but he is pushing her to the left.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#81
Good point- I hope she doesn't drift back to the right though.	jalan48	Jun 2015	#83
Doubt Bernie would agree.	merrily	Jun 2015	#108
Ttp is such a divisive bill. I wish Democrats did not support the damn thing.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#110
Ummm, if you think Hillary "might" ever be against the TPP,	NorthCarolina	Jun 2015	#231
Please don't speak for Bernie. That is certainly not what he said he's doing.	merrily	Jun 2015	#106
I think he knows he is the underdog.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#107
Of course. But that is very different from what your prior post said.	merrily	Jun 2015	#109
I think it is consistent.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#112
Yet very different. Underdog does not equal sure loser.	merrily	Jun 2015	#175
We disagree.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#176
Again, Sanders did not say he knows he can't win. He said something very different.	merrily	Jun 2015	#177
What words did I put in his mouth?	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#178
Um, you said Sanders knows he's going to lose. He said the opposite.	merrily	Jun 2015	#181
I said he knows she is likely going to win. I can give an opinion just like you can.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#182
Without looking back, you said he knew she was going to win, or was likely to win and then said	merrily	Jun 2015	#186
Good night.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#188
Can we hold you to that?	kath	Jun 2015	#212
I doubt it...	truebrit71	Jun 2015	#241
Would be super nice though,	kath	Jun 2015	#246
You Da Man Justin.	William769	Jun 2015	#264
Thank you. And I did take the day off and i will be busy the next few days so I won't be on much.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#265
Kiss all the boys boys for me!	William769	Jun 2015	#267
Lol I will.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#268
Will you knock it off? He knows she will likely win?	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#120
I am allowed my opinion and I will state it.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#125
And you believe that myth too?	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#152
I believe Hillary is a much stronger candidate.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#153
No, the "Bernie is only in it to push Hillary to the left" myth.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#158
Well we disagree.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#160
That's a logical conclusion.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#164
Have a good night.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#165
Most of us believe she is not.	cui bono	Jun 2015	#167
Most in the party disagrees with you and agrees with me.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#168
Most in the party don't pay attention to politics and poll for HRC	cui bono	Jun 2015	#244
push hillary	yikes1	Jun 2015	#179
Exactly.	freedom fighter jh	Jun 2015	#204
If she wins the primary she will lose in the general.	Enthusiast	Jun 2015	#201
No advocating for Bernie, or any third party, or for staying home. Those are the terms of service.	merrily	Jun 2015	#95
Ok-thank you for the info.	jalan48	Jun 2015	#97
Bernie is running for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT	Paulie	Jun 2015	#101
The context of the subthread was what the rules mean relative to a nominee.	merrily	Jun 2015	#105
The rules apply in the general not now	Paulie	Jun 2015	#111
Exactly right.	Igel	Jun 2015	#137
Yes, when we have a nominee, we're in the general and I did not bring up the rules.	merrily	Jun 2015	#180
You should post that in the [Clueless group] ...but they might ban you.	L0oniX	Jun 2015	#70
And what group would that be?	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#71
The one where you ban people if they ask you a simple question...	truebrit71	Jun 2015	#242
Oh you mean the safe havens. Oh ok.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#289
A safe haven for what, though? It mustn't be for posting positive stuff about Hillary Clinton...	Violet_Crumble	Jun 2015	#292
You asking that in response to that post is very	cui bono	Jun 2015	#287
Good, I am glad you got a laugh.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#288
Roflmao!	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#156
Maybe the Democratic party	Aerows	Jun 2015	#73
I don't agree.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#76
If you can't match what you say	Aerows	Jun 2015	#87
I understand and share your disappointment.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#89
Tell that to the moneybags	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#183
Well if the nominee is Hillary I predict a significant drop in traffic and ads revenue on DU.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#138
They said they were launching it for fun.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#140
Sure, they did it for fun.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#142
Are you upset they made it?	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#143
Have you ever heard about the Turing test?	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#147
Vaguely.	hrmjustin	Jun 2015	#148
.	Rex	Jun 2015	#245
What on Earth?	Aerows	Jun 2015	#195
its a fact	bunnies	Jun 2015	#213
Without comment.	Aerows	Jun 2015	#235
From what I've read the rules are similar to the Hillary group.	BeanMusical	Jun 2015	#216
The rest of us will just double the money we send to DU	leftofcool	Jun 2015	#262
Ohhh the power to ban. nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2015	#250
I'm with you WillyT	Oilwellian	Jun 2015	#27
Thanks Oilwellian...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#47
You rock too, my friend	Oilwellian	Jun 2015	#121
Word.	Jester Messiah	Jun 2015	#29
Exactly !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#54
Yep. A big fuck you to the 99% from the poodles of the 1%.	GoneFishin	Jun 2015	#31
Absolutely N/T	Old Codger	Jun 2015	#33
I'm with you, WillyT!	truebluegreen	Jun 2015	#42
:fistbump:	WillyT	Jun 2015	#48
This is our last chance to start removing the 1% from the government. "OUR" omitted because...	L0oniX	Jun 2015	#46
100% Agreed. We Were Betrayed..	raindaddy	Jun 2015	#50
Bernie doesn't take bribes. He works for the people.	azmom	Jun 2015	#51
I suspect we are at one of those populists moments	nadinbrzezinski	Jun 2015	#52
When a dominionist cretin like Cruz	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#72
Well he is one with his ear firmly in the right wing	nadinbrzezinski	Jun 2015	#75
I'm with you.	onecaliberal	Jun 2015	#53
Thanks WillyT! nth	Logical	Jun 2015	#67
I am beyond seeing enough of this.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2015	#68
People are at what I call The Popeye Point:	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#74
funny - I can hear popeye's voice reading those words	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2015	#78
It's a memorable meme I have been	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#82
K &.R	rbnyc	Jun 2015	#88
I will not vote for anyone who supports the TPP	The Green Manalishi	Jun 2015	#93
Well said, WillyT	MissDeeds	Jun 2015	#115
Willy - I'm with you.	840high	Jun 2015	#116
From what I can tell, no one is stopping you from working against Democrats.	JoePhilly	Jun 2015	#122
I am with you, WillyT.	glinda	Jun 2015	#124
There is one thing that has been playing in my head all day since I heard the news.	raouldukelives	Jun 2015	#126
K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R!	Phlem	Jun 2015	#131
After 7 years of wussitude, Obama decides to take the gloves off and fight	tularetom	Jun 2015	#134
Seven Years of Wussitude	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#139
Yeah I think he wrote that right after "Love in the Time of the Common Cold"	tularetom	Jun 2015	#146
Gabriel Garcia Marquez was very prescient	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2015	#162
Well now, I don't agree with that.	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#163
not true at all!	ibegurpard	Jun 2015	#151
A bit of hyperbole. I can think of many Dems who have done worse.	McCamy Taylor	Jun 2015	#141
Well, there was Bill Clinton, the Rapidly Shrinking Dog	tularetom	Jun 2015	#154
Preach it, brother!	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2015	#150
If Democrats vote for Clinton	TM99	Jun 2015	#159
Yuuup!	Thespian2	Jun 2015	#161
First, I am deeply disappointed with the party and President Obama on TPP	davidpdx	Jun 2015	#171
It breaks my heart to rec this	senseandsensibility	Jun 2015	#174
I'll stop bashing them	MannyGoldstein	Jun 2015	#184
Don't hold yer breath, Manny.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#189
I could think of a better term than "bashing" for what they're doing to us.	Fuddnik	Jun 2015	#202
I believe Hillary came out against it as soon as her little birds told her it was a fait accompli.	Bonobo	Jun 2015	#185
Turnout in 2016 will be a disaster if a corporate candidate gets the nomination	strategery blunder	Jun 2015	#190
Maybe it is time for primary challenges for all blue dogs.	kenfrequed	Jun 2015	#229
I couldn't agree with you more, WillyT. I'm still fucking furious. My	williesgirl	Jun 2015	#191
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#206
BUT HE GIVES SUCH PURTY SPEECHES	Skittles	Jun 2015	#192
So as to grease the skids	madokie	Jun 2015	#193
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!	Enthusiast	Jun 2015	#196
.	stonecutter357	Jun 2015	#199
Scrap Iron Gadaski	Fairgo	Jun 2015	#200
I'm with you.	mmonk	Jun 2015	#207
In a democracy, we're supposed to hold our public servants accountable. K&R	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2015	#208
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	Jun 2015	#209
Electing Hillary means the extinction of Homo Sapiens.	Admiral Loinpresser	Jun 2015	#210
The problem with approaching politics as team sport . . .	markpkessinger	Jun 2015	#211
Want ... what my grandfather use to say about "want"... rephrased for HOPE	NotHardly	Jun 2015	#214
So, just go along to get along then?	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#256
BINGO.	Triana	Jun 2015	#215
Oh FFS he has not	treestar	Jun 2015	#217
When your job is shipped overseas, as countless thousands will be.	hifiguy	Jun 2015	#237
+1	YoungDemCA	Jun 2015	#238
Yes, but they are having so much fun getting the others riled up.	leftofcool	Jun 2015	#263
The first page of GD is full of people criticizing and working against democrats.	NCTraveler	Jun 2015	#218
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!	emsimon33	Jun 2015	#220
Right on! Keep up the work against Democrats!	zappaman	Jun 2015	#224
Excellent post Willy, i agree	donnasgirl	Jun 2015	#225
Well, OK, but...	HassleCat	Jun 2015	#226
Ho hum what a bore this campaign against Hillary on DU has become and trying to demonize the best	Pisces	Jun 2015	#228
Pathetic.	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#257
I agree this thread is pathetic!!	Pisces	Jun 2015	#271
One issue Democrats	uwep	Jun 2015	#230
There isn't just one issue of disappointment...	cascadiance	Jun 2015	#249
There is a difference between being an "Underground" and hiding your head in the sand.	staggerleem	Jun 2015	#232
From experience, posts that start with	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#258
Right, because it couldn't possibly be someone being honest with you. We don't do that, right?	randome	Jun 2015	#266
And just WHERE did you see the word "but"?	staggerleem	Jun 2015	#270
And my point is proven...[n/t]	Maedhros	Jun 2015	#272
.	randome	Jun 2015	#240
Don't forget Don Siegelman.	Octafish	Jun 2015	#247
Right on, as usual!	Hun Joro	Jun 2015	#248
Don't be naive	DownriverDem	Jun 2015	#252
100% in agreement	d_legendary1	Jun 2015	#253
Right with you!	Hatchling	Jun 2015	#254
With ya Wille	Nite Owl	Jun 2015	#260
I am so sorry you don't like Democrats.	leftofcool	Jun 2015	#261
as someone who GOTVs, sends everyone voting guides, gets to vote all-Dem most of the time	MisterP	Jun 2015	#274
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#280
A-fucking-men.	CharlotteVale	Jun 2015	#278
I'm getting old...is it to soon to say "I give up."?	Paper Roses	Jun 2015	#281
dang, that's a lot of recs.	nilram	Jun 2015	#282
from my mind	marym625	Jun 2015	#284
Thanks... You're A Great Friend !!!	WillyT	Jun 2015	#285
Awe!	marym625	Jun 2015	#286
So true, the notion that we should ignore the betrayal of these Third Way Dems	sabrina 1	Jun 2015	#290
A Last Kick From Me...	WillyT	Jun 2015	#291

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