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UtahJosh

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61. That doesn't ring true to me at all.

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:25 AM

Jul 2015

He was more concerned with "family shame" than with staying in a torture camp for a few more years?

What, was he more afraid of his father and grandfather than the actual enemy who was standing ready to torture him mercilessly?

Or did he really abide by a family "code of ethics" that would forbid such a disgrace for the sake of the family dedicated to the military cause? If so, even that in itself sounds pretty fucking heroic to me.

I dunno...I was never a McCain fan (even still, I think the dude really should retire and stop fucking up the Senate along with his fifty-plus compatriots), but excuses about him rejecting early release "for the wrong reasons" really smack of desperate partisanship, and maybe even a little swiftboating.

Just sayin...

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Why I support Trump's comments about McCain [View all] AverageGuy Jul 2015 OP

I felt similarly, but I was offered this reply to a similar comment Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1

Many POWs refused early release as it entailed basically turning treasonous riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #4

Actually, that's one of Stockdale's policies that's no longer taught. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #43

And they were also heroes. Trump, however, is just a lump. nt pnwmom Jul 2015 #44

I don't understand. If you are a prisoner rainy Jul 2015 #55

In McCain's situation JonLP24 Jul 2015 #71

And he took a great deal of savage beatings for it underpants Jul 2015 #10

McCain would not go home because of the shame it would reflect on his family AverageGuy Jul 2015 #14

That doesn't ring true to me at all. UtahJosh Jul 2015 #61

I bet Trump will visit vets this week to show that all vets are heroes awake Jul 2015 #2

3 of my uncles were POW's they loathed McCain. "You aren't supposed to get captured" summed mulsh Jul 2015 #3

So you had three uncles get captured but they loathed McCain for getting captured? topological Jul 2015 #6

They loath McCain because he's a "showboating scumbag" to quote one of them. enjoy your visit to DU. mulsh Jul 2015 #32

Trump was talking about your three uncles as well. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #25

Dude Dorian Gray Jul 2015 #57

If Trump wants to McCain bash, he should stick to the political McCain Siwsan Jul 2015 #5

All o the Republicans running this year are AverageGuy Jul 2015 #16

Lindsey Graham is a reserve JAG officer Siwsan Jul 2015 #18

He is, and retired just before launching his campaign nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #45

Not Rick Perry ann--- Jul 2015 #39

As a Vietnam War era vet, I would expect you to know onenote Jul 2015 #42

So what war did they fight in? AverageGuy Jul 2015 #49

True. But that doesn't make your OP accurate onenote Jul 2015 #65

Very true davidpdx Jul 2015 #47

I just think there are a yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #7

I support Trump helping the GOP lose in 2016. Keep quacking through the primaries, Donald! n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #8

No veteran should have his military record disparaged vankuria Jul 2015 #9

I agree davidpdx Jul 2015 #46

Look I liked McCain (before he went over to the dark side) AverageGuy Jul 2015 #50

You voted for McCain/Palin in 08? XRubicon Jul 2015 #52

Yes I did, as I explained it at that time AverageGuy Jul 2015 #60

So you are viguy007 who was ppr'ed? XRubicon Jul 2015 #66

I appreciate your service to our country davidpdx Jul 2015 #69

Agree totally with your post & finally someone remembered the attacks & mockery of Senator Kerry by EV_Ares Jul 2015 #58

Yes I do vankuria Jul 2015 #63

No one who wants to be Commander in Chief onenote Jul 2015 #11

Trump will be the finest Cmdr-in-Chief that God ever devised ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #12

I don't support them - not so BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #13

I agree, but I do give McCain credit for refusing to leave without MiniMe Jul 2015 #15

I'm surprised Trump didn't mention that time McCain poured gasoline on his starter... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #17

That never happened. former9thward Jul 2015 #27

I worked on the flight decks of the USS America, USS Ranger, and USS Constellation. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #36

No, my fault. former9thward Jul 2015 #38

LOL no it's MY fault! cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #40

Except what you are saying is nothing like what Trump said. Trump did not say 'they are all heroes' Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #19

And there you have it. xmas74 Jul 2015 #23

Don't spoil the moment by bringing up what Trump actually said... XRubicon Jul 2015 #29

I am another Vietnam-era vet and agree with you DrDan Jul 2015 #20

The wackos get all the publicity early and name rcognition as a result. lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #21

That is what the Republicans hope. AverageGuy Jul 2015 #30

Trump thanks you for supporting his comments... nt XRubicon Jul 2015 #22

Only telling the truth as I see it AverageGuy Jul 2015 #28

You should take another look at what Trump said XRubicon Jul 2015 #31

I'd say it's your ann--- Jul 2015 #37

Well, in that case, I think you're on the wrong forum. ladyVet Jul 2015 #41

There is no such thing . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #53

Well, Trump said a stupid thing AverageGuy Jul 2015 #54

Your stories don't add up pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #56

see post 60 and my reply... nt XRubicon Jul 2015 #67

I honor McCain's war record, oldandhappy Jul 2015 #24

You are wrong. former9thward Jul 2015 #26

"I like people who don't get captured." Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #33

I agree with you ann--- Jul 2015 #35

You support that lunatic's comments? ann--- Jul 2015 #34

Trump is garbage Skittles Jul 2015 #48

Worse, that chickenhawk trashes all POWS for being captured pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #59

correct Skittles Jul 2015 #68

+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #51

Our poster has not yet bothered to answer how he supports Trump's actual quote. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #62

Indeed pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #64

You're right. Bernie Sanders had to save the VA from McCain and the privatizers JonLP24 Jul 2015 #70