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68. You did the right thing. The hardest, but Right(TM) thing.

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 10:49 AM

Aug 2015

MAD props. Seriously, that is not easy. No one could ask more of you.

Very similar scenario unfolded for a woman my mom was trying to aid, big dog (rescue), eviction, difficulties with the owner, etc. Because the dog was not removed from her care, he ended up living with her in a bad place he could not be, ended up lashing out and biting someone on the forearm, not badly, but enough for legal action. Owner was faced with 'destroy the dog, or if he bites again, you go to jail.'.

A victim of the owner's circumstances, a dog that could have had a long happy life in the right setting, was destroyed that day before any of us could even act.

You did the right thing. Yoshi has a chance now.

I'd hug the shit out of you right now if I could. TTW needs help, that's clear, but help of the human kind. Yoshi can't help her, though losing him and his companionship will likely injure TTW further. Sad, but better long term. Probably safe to assume TTW would prefer Yoshi live happy in a better setting, than be faced with a choice like my mom's neighbor. One option is a loss but constructive. The other is entirely destructive for her an Yoshi. Choice is clear, if painful.

Good on you.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] msanthrope Aug 2015 OP

You and your ex did the best that anyone could do under the circumstances. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #1

Thank you....I am hoping everyone behaves. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #4

ORIGINAL OP.....for posterity. msanthrope Aug 2015 #394

If I recall correctly, the breed standard for Akitas Jane Austin Aug 2015 #131

One of TTW objections to the New Jersey rescue was the use of individual kennels msanthrope Aug 2015 #150

Its better to think of it less like a domesticated pet, and more like a working dog. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #153

Exactly Aerows Aug 2015 #197

I did not know that Yoshi was an Akita... hlthe2b Aug 2015 #2

Ex and I did not know what an Akita was, frankly, and we are dog lovers who have been around dogs msanthrope Aug 2015 #5

One sad thought is this is why homeless people often avoid shelters daredtowork Aug 2015 #124

You haven't done anything wrong, and only tried to help. cwydro Aug 2015 #3

I think that TTW cannot face giving up Yoshi, and I get that. Luckily, this shelter has personnel msanthrope Aug 2015 #6

You've done what you could. cwydro Aug 2015 #8

Could you clarify TTW is doing temp work while looking for a job in your OP daredtowork Aug 2015 #121

my understanding is that she is signed with an agency. msanthrope Aug 2015 #135

given the situation, I'm going to hazard a guess magical thyme Aug 2015 #37

lol daredtowork Aug 2015 #234

Akitas are tough breeds. a la izquierda Aug 2015 #7

This is sad all the way around. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #9

Thanks - to you and your ex Habibi Aug 2015 #10

You did your best for him. I wish him and TTW the best of luck! Adrahil Aug 2015 #11

You handled this well gwheezie Aug 2015 #12

I will donate today to Women's Humane Society in Besalem magical thyme Aug 2015 #13

they are good people I thank you for your generosity.....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2015 #14

Uncalled for. Habibi Aug 2015 #17

What a terribly cruel comment to make. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #28

+1 CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #104

mean & snide comment pal, irisblue Aug 2015 #54

That is just beyond beyond. What is wrong with you? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #59

That's just mean. eom. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #98

Your comment is not needed. 840high Aug 2015 #122

What a horrible thing to say! ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #211

I think you and yr ex did do the best thing for Yoshi... Violet_Crumble Aug 2015 #15

there's no human involved in this that doesn't feel terrible this morning..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #21

Maybe you feel terrible, but you and the ex are the classic standup guys. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #62

thank you and I will pass this along to my ex I can't tell you msanthrope Aug 2015 #69

I agree on all counts. JTFrog Aug 2015 #149

I agree, and thank you for this post. What decent, decent people the msanthropes are. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #247

Thank you Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #18

thanks to you and Marta too Steve for everything...nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #22

Jesus, what a difficult situation. I totally appreciate all of your efforts to try bullwinkle428 Aug 2015 #19

With Some Experience RobinA Aug 2015 #20

We're all wishing for that forever home for poor Yoshi. cwydro Aug 2015 #26

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I guess the library is open. N T msanthrope Aug 2015 #25

Hi Frank Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #27

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This message was self-deleted by its author SheilaT Aug 2015 #82

Support for Omaha Steve catrose Aug 2015 #140

Support for Omaha Steve + 100000 irisblue Aug 2015 #141

Truly! I'd like love to see the alert & results catrose Aug 2015 #146

Its easy to do NOTHING but judge. RiverLover Aug 2015 #29

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You sure are into this for only having 4 posts. Rex Aug 2015 #39

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Why are you lying? The OP states Rex Aug 2015 #42

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So YES you made that up, thanks have a nice day then. Rex Aug 2015 #46

Do.not.feed. cyberswede Aug 2015 #48

I doubt the person I am talking to is even close to that cute. Rex Aug 2015 #50

I think it's ok gwheezie Aug 2015 #47

The rescue is in the northeast not Texas irisblue Aug 2015 #60

Referring to the other home gwheezie Aug 2015 #64

it is very sad irisblue Aug 2015 #66

the D you member in Texas is no longer willing...... msanthrope Aug 2015 #79

Yes I agree gwheezie Aug 2015 #83

Take someones dog in, feed it take care of it, then pay the actual owner to come walk it? snooper2 Aug 2015 #44

You and your ex are good people. beemer27 Aug 2015 #24

I can only commend you for what you and your ex has already done. Xyzse Aug 2015 #33

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Do you have more information that we don't know? gwheezie Aug 2015 #40

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Oh just stop...... justamama83 Aug 2015 #49

I once took in an unwanted dog. Unfortunately Tipperary Aug 2015 #35

Same dog that was reported to growl and go after people coming to work on TTW rental snooper2 Aug 2015 #36

snooper2, why are you laughing @ TTWs' loss of Yoshi? irisblue Aug 2015 #53

Sucks she doesn't have her dog, but she was offered a place to live WITH her dog for a year snooper2 Aug 2015 #75

Yeah, it was SC. cwydro Aug 2015 #96

Soap opera??? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #127

it would not have worked out as we now know JI7 Aug 2015 #177

But Yoshi and TTW would have made one move- together- into a less stressful situation. And if it bettyellen Aug 2015 #350

YOU ARE SO MEAN!!!! How could you laff at TTW's poor dog in a miserable situation. trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #218

You did your best, far more than 99% of the people here would do imo. Rex Aug 2015 #51

you did your best. sometimes that is all there is. mopinko Aug 2015 #52

Thank you and your ex for all this. All of it. I'm sure some will be harsh, Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #55

Truely sad. blackspade Aug 2015 #56

I am certainly sorry to hear this. SheilaT Aug 2015 #57

Sorry to hear that Yoshi exists? That the doggie daycare exists? That MsAnthrop did her very underahedgerow Aug 2015 #73

No, I'm sorry to hear that the situation with Yoshi is so bad. SheilaT Aug 2015 #87

actually, the situation is not bad at all. Texasgal Aug 2015 #94

Doncha know? She's protecting us from scammers! It's because she cares deeply for the well being of underahedgerow Aug 2015 #102

I never claimed the dog didn't exist. SheilaT Aug 2015 #105

when your life falls apart for WHATEVER reason, you will learn about Kali Aug 2015 #107

Let's hope she receives all the compassion and kindness she has shown to others. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #109

So what? Texasgal Aug 2015 #111

So what? SheilaT Aug 2015 #115

You are not pointing out various Texasgal Aug 2015 #132

Does the homeless shelter know that you found the plight of someone on the verge of homelessness JTFrog Aug 2015 #227

She is with a temp agency--working as much as she can get. She is also signing tblue37 Aug 2015 #152

msanthrope already clarified it was a temp agency. =.= daredtowork Aug 2015 #240

TTW was not required to put her life on public display Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #357

Well, the dog MAY be placed Mariana Aug 2015 #172

The shelter is run Texasgal Aug 2015 #176

The dog is no longer at the shelter Mariana Aug 2015 #198

I just saw that. Texasgal Aug 2015 #202

I know. Mariana Aug 2015 #208

I know! now just oops sorry after all the accusing Person 2713 Aug 2015 #100

I'm really torn here magical thyme Aug 2015 #80

+ infinity n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #86

When in the world have I pretended to be a medical professional? SheilaT Aug 2015 #88

many times. magical thyme Aug 2015 #126

Never worked in health care administration. Never claimed to. SheilaT Aug 2015 #129

registration at a hospital is health care administration magical thyme Aug 2015 #133

Trust me, I was not in health care administration. SheilaT Aug 2015 #136

Why in the world are you attacking me like this? BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO MEAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #221

I'm still looking for your heartless posts........ 7962 Aug 2015 #235

Tough situation. I'm sorry you had to deal with it. MineralMan Aug 2015 #58

Thank You Msanthrope and your EX Texasgal Aug 2015 #61

Thank you for thjs.....you and moosepoop have worked behind the scenes msanthrope Aug 2015 #91

Thank you for trying. That's all that can be expected of anyone. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #63

Yoshi needs to be with people who know Akita's. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #65

We had a Pyr snpsmom Aug 2015 #71

It might depend on whether the dog was bred as an AKC show dog leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #72

I hope so, too. n/t snpsmom Aug 2015 #81

I have known only wonderful Aussie shepherds Tipperary Aug 2015 #144

Anatolian Shepherd, not an Aussie, which is not a huge or dangerous breed. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #154

Oh dear. This is what I get for reading on my phone Tipperary Aug 2015 #161

BIG doggies! nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #199

Anatolia we're used as war dogs. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #187

I'll do you one better. Stop breeding dogs, roody Aug 2015 #185

You deserve a medal, and some hugs if you can stand them, seriously. bettyellen Aug 2015 #67

You did the right thing. The hardest, but Right(TM) thing. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #68

the scenario you described was exactly what we feared for Yoshi. msanthrope Aug 2015 #99

It's an unfortunately common scenario. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #134

Just a clarification, please. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #70

Me and ex share your concern..... we didn't want to surrender Yoshi just anywhere.... msanthrope Aug 2015 #90

Please stay in touch with the shelter and rescue, and follow what happens to him. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #92

Absolutely.....my ex and I will not let this dog msanthrope Aug 2015 #97

much respect for you and your Ex irisblue Aug 2015 #110

I am not religious at all, yet I find myself wanting to say, "Bless you!" to you and your ex. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #156

It looks like you have gotten Yoshi's situation stabilized. I just wish there were a place for TTW CTyankee Aug 2015 #74

If it helps persuade TTW to sign over Yoshi- if he bites someone he would be put down. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #76

My admiration for your efforts to help TTW and Yoshi... virgdem Aug 2015 #77

You and your ex did the right thing. TDale313 Aug 2015 #78

I am so sorry to read this dsc Aug 2015 #84

I think you and your ex did absolutely the best you could. stage left Aug 2015 #85

Thank you for the time and effort to help Yoshi and TTW. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #89

YOu are a very kind and compassionate person. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #93

Above and beyond the call Generic Other Aug 2015 #95

Thank you for getting Yoshi on his way to the rescue that knows his breed well Person 2713 Aug 2015 #101

Bravo!! wildheart Aug 2015 #103

wildheart, welcome to DU irisblue Aug 2015 #114

thank you! wildheart Aug 2015 #116

I think you did the right thing. Kali Aug 2015 #106

I love the breed, considered one but it's true they usually aren't good with other dogs. Sunlei Aug 2015 #108

Kudos to you and your ex for your efforts in this difficult situation. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #112

msanthrope, you and your ex are incredible! Spazito Aug 2015 #113

I deeply respect you and your ex for all you've done to help Yoshi. herding cats Aug 2015 #117

"a dude with a goofy black lab trying to care for a wolf in the middle of a city.� pnwmom Aug 2015 #118

I believe underahedgerow Aug 2015 #125

.... easttexaslefty Aug 2015 #217

Completely Understandable daredtowork Aug 2015 #119

+1. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #157

I've been of the opinion that TTW is not a "scam" - TBF Aug 2015 #120

I will get in touch with the shelter where Yoshi is now. cwydro Aug 2015 #123

Awesome. Will you let us know about that so we can do the same. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #128

Sounds good - TBF Aug 2015 #130

I will; it may take me a couple of days to do. cwydro Aug 2015 #147

And if it is mental illness, that increases her need rather than reduces it. The system should be pnwmom Aug 2015 #145

Yup - more victims of Reagan's "Revolution" nt TBF Aug 2015 #170

You've been put in an impossible situation and have made the kindest decisions REP Aug 2015 #137

Many of us are just a few paychecks away from TTW's situation .... shireen Aug 2015 #138

There are places that you can contact... virgdem Aug 2015 #166

Akitas are a tough breed. PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #139

My husband is a dog-walker a la izquierda Aug 2015 #284

There's one down the street from me PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #314

TTW made several posts in previous threads that the dog cwydro Aug 2015 #316

No, PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #339

Thanks for doing all you did. roody Aug 2015 #142

poor TTW.I wish her well...a home that allows her to be with Yoshi Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #143

Do you know how awesome you are? missingthebigdog Aug 2015 #148

You did everything you could--and your ex especially went above and beyond. tblue37 Aug 2015 #151

You did great! Quackers Aug 2015 #155

In case you miss this edit on my original reply to your OP: tblue37 Aug 2015 #158

I simply don't know. The last time I had it a civil conversation with TTW msanthrope Aug 2015 #159

Here in cheap rent Kansas I had to pay $1400 up front to rent a place with my cats, and tblue37 Aug 2015 #160

I think TTW not only needs financial help but helping setting financial goals. msanthrope Aug 2015 #162

That is so touching. A hired dog walker who does not even know TTW is tblue37 Aug 2015 #164

I hope TTW listens to her. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #167

It might be a combination of not having enough funds and making mistakes with what she does have. pnwmom Aug 2015 #173

She should not be angry at you. That really seems to indicate that she Tipperary Aug 2015 #163

Rightly or wrongly, TTW is extremely upset at me and ex. I'm hoping she can calm down msanthrope Aug 2015 #165

You're doing all the right things for Yoshi. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #168

you did all the right things. irisblue Aug 2015 #169

When my grandmother suffered a stroke in 1985, she adamantly insisted that we never, ever tblue37 Aug 2015 #171

You know you did everything you could for your Grandma, even though she couldn't appreciate it. pnwmom Aug 2015 #178

I have that as one of my goals when I get older .To remember gratitude when help is needed Person 2713 Aug 2015 #375

I hope on some level your grandmother sensed that you all cared. Demit Aug 2015 #184

Yeah, I have to hold on to that. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #188

We had to put my grandmother in a nursing home Aerows Aug 2015 #212

It is not always a bad thing- if they have some wits about them enough to socialize and can take bettyellen Aug 2015 #224

Just for the record, nursing home regulations prohibit restraining residents without pnwmom Aug 2015 #241

I know, because we discussed it. They did not feel they could handle her without restraints, so it bettyellen Aug 2015 #244

I have to say this. I donated to her before. But... Adrahil Aug 2015 #277

It's sad that they aren't able to be together. DawgHouse Aug 2015 #174

you're an inspiration to DU steve2470 Aug 2015 #175

There are millions in similar situations. So the real solution isn't a nice billionaire pnwmom Aug 2015 #179

true steve2470 Aug 2015 #181

Second Update in Op..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #180

Thanks for the update steve2470 Aug 2015 #182

Yes...I think everyone involved has done the limit of what can be done. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #183

That is a very sad development. Demit Aug 2015 #189

And you tried to do still more. You are awesome. randome Aug 2015 #191

What the... MoonRiver Aug 2015 #186

Maybe in her car? nt No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #192

Does she have a car? n/t MoonRiver Aug 2015 #213

I thought I had read on the earlier posts from TT, but I could have it confused No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #216

No problem one way or the other. Please don't delete. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #220

she did, yes. and she made two trips to visit Yoshi, so I think still does. bettyellen Aug 2015 #226

Sometimes we have to step back, and this may be one of those times. No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #190

Unfortunately, she isn't just making a decision for herself -- she's making it for Yoshi. pnwmom Aug 2015 #205

Yoshi attacking is a real possibility and yes, the poor dog Ineeda Aug 2015 #237

This is unfortunate gwheezie Aug 2015 #194

To be fair to TTW, she did make it clear that she was not looking to relinquish Yoshi. StevieM Aug 2015 #225

Yes, in fact that was one thing she was especially worried about. DawgHouse Aug 2015 #229

Part of the reason TTW will not succeed. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #238

I cannot tell you how accurate this post is---TTW screamed at me that Yoshi is "her property" and msanthrope Aug 2015 #252

I know how you both feel. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #256

Your last paragraph is everything I fear most. But it is out of my hands right now.... msanthrope Aug 2015 #257

If I may suggest one thing after reading this post. Sunlei Aug 2015 #261

They called ex to tell him. Apparently, it was quite the scene. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #263

Thank you, your family did the best you could to help her with the dog. Sunlei Aug 2015 #278

Oh dear . Peace now to ex and you for caring and then enduring this Person 2713 Aug 2015 #378

Thank you for that last paragraph because although I had withheld Tipperary Aug 2015 #267

Sadly, I think this post speaks volumes about TTW's entire situation suffragette Aug 2015 #309

sadly shanti Aug 2015 #393

You did everything you could do. herding cats Aug 2015 #228

TTW seems incapable of putting Yoshi's need beforee her own. Adrahil Aug 2015 #193

Akita's are large, guardian dogs Aerows Aug 2015 #195

TTW is currently in a home where there has been violence....in fact, a housemate assaulted her. I msanthrope Aug 2015 #201

Me too Aerows Aug 2015 #209

And I wouldn't be surprised if that large dog was part of the problem the landlord had with her. pnwmom Aug 2015 #203

She told me that her current landlord would not have the dog. HHer current situation, her housemate msanthrope Aug 2015 #207

You did your best, and we all appreciate your efforts. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #196

This is all so very sad. demmiblue Aug 2015 #200

I'm so sad and scared for them both. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #204

You and your ex went above and beyond, ladyVet Aug 2015 #206

That's a sad second update. tammywammy Aug 2015 #210

You and your ex did an amazing job for Yoshi nadine_mn Aug 2015 #214

It's very hard to face that sometimes people can't help you help them. nolabear Aug 2015 #215

I fear the endgame of this story...TTW is so beaten down it seems hard to see how she CTyankee Aug 2015 #219

Me, too - but I understand her mentality daredtowork Aug 2015 #233

It's not 'punishment'. That is ridiculously unfair. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #239

Thank you for an excellent post and rebuttal. Nt Tipperary Aug 2015 #271

Excellent post (again). Demit Aug 2015 #280

I agree. cwydro Aug 2015 #286

There was something like a mob mentality going on there. Demit Aug 2015 #289

A rebuttal to your nonsense "excellent rebuttal" daredtowork Aug 2015 #296

No. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #302

I have seen this before as well daredtowork Aug 2015 #304

No, it can't be given back. It may already be too late for this dog. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #307

I'm familiar with the landscape of services and you aren't daredtowork Aug 2015 #317

You don't know anything about me. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #319

I'm going by the attitude you have shown in your posts, which have been cold and mean-spirited. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #321

I have posted NOTHING mean-spirited. Not in this thread. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #323

Nope, you haven't been mean spirited, and you have been analytical. cwydro Aug 2015 #331

Yes....you've nailed it. This post is exactly what is going on. I've tried...but I also msanthrope Aug 2015 #231

Clearly your legal training and experience have served you well in this instance. No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #259

Msanthrope, your EX - Moosepoop & everyone who have been helping TTW & her dog trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #222

Kudos to you and your ex kiva Aug 2015 #223

wow Locrian Aug 2015 #230

I just hope she can get him the veterinary care he needs magical thyme Aug 2015 #232

You did ALL you could. Sadly, she refused what was best for the dog. 7962 Aug 2015 #236

Thank you for doing everything you could to save Yoshi. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #242

She reclaimed him because there was no assurance he wouldn't be killed. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #243

Thank you for mentioning tbat. Does this include "Akita Rescue" daredtowork Aug 2015 #246

They did the best for the dog they could. Shelter would have held the dog for the legal 3-5 days, Sunlei Aug 2015 #249

Agreed. They did the best they could. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #291

Nonsense. She reclaimed him because she didn't want him going to the rescue in NJ. msanthrope Aug 2015 #251

Well, among other things, these threads are clear evidence that you were trying to save Yoshi tblue37 Aug 2015 #265

i'm so sorry shireen Aug 2015 #290

Absolutely she reclaimed him because she didn't want him going to the rescue. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #292

I am sympathetic to your frustration, especially after you tried to help her. But look at this from StevieM Aug 2015 #295

ITA - the exact opposite of what she expected happened. DawgHouse Aug 2015 #300

agreed. and if everybody was telling her she has to give up Yoshi, that would explain magical thyme Aug 2015 #266

I'm glad you understood what I was trying to say. hamsterjill Aug 2015 #293

I am in awe of your kindness and thoughtfulness. phylny Aug 2015 #245

You really have gone over and above. SoapBox Aug 2015 #248

You and your ex are good people. TY so much for filling us in. It's so sad how the saga continues... Hekate Aug 2015 #250

Thank you for this post. I don't take TTW's rejection personally, but I am glad that finally, msanthrope Aug 2015 #255

Financial guidance, really? LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #262

I know you are right. Thank you for that bit of cold water to the face. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #264

The family, yes� Demit Aug 2015 #282

Her family did steer her toward mental health services because they were concerned... bettyellen Aug 2015 #303

Sending you a PM. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #268

This is very bad news, and it doesn't speak well for the shelter. cwydro Aug 2015 #253

Under PA law, they had to release him, regardless of her circumstances. PA is a horrible state for msanthrope Aug 2015 #254

Sorry to know that TTW has threatened you and ex with theft charges, etc. No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #258

Well, it's an empty threat, born of anger, and I'm not taking it too seriously. I think she still msanthrope Aug 2015 #260

Where is Moosepoop in all of this? cwydro Aug 2015 #269

I've been in communication with Moosepoop. I don't think she has any more info than us right now... msanthrope Aug 2015 #270

Oh, ok. cwydro Aug 2015 #272

No good deed goes unpunished, I guess, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #329

I haven't heard from TTW since the phone call last weekend. Moosepoop Aug 2015 #273

A couple of years ago I encountered a situation where I was worried for a dog's welfare. Vinca Aug 2015 #276

Did anyone think of the COUPLE who was PICKING UP BOTTLES TO GET BY? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #299

Everyone is well aware of them and they are well aware of the services available to them. Vinca Aug 2015 #315

If you have been reading TTW's posts daredtowork Aug 2015 #318

The only conspiracy was to save the dog seveneyes Aug 2015 #334

Nevertheless, I'm pointing out TTW can read. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #343

Would you rather the dog suffer from lack of food, medical care, etc? Vinca Aug 2015 #335

I'm not making a judgment call on this, but TTW did daredtowork Aug 2015 #346

Well there is a conspiracy on this board to steal Yoshi daredtowork Aug 2015 #301

Le sigh. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #305

Your posts are well thought out and reasonable. But I fear that talking Tipperary Aug 2015 #312

This is simply not true. Texasgal Aug 2015 #306

People here have offered homes to TTW and her dog but been refused... bettyellen Aug 2015 #308

Agreed. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #310

i do believe it was right to step in and help the dog- I know she can't see it could bettyellen Aug 2015 #313

It's not ridiculous at all daredtowork Aug 2015 #326

Your paranoid fantasies are maligning too many members of DU now. Demit Aug 2015 #336

lol. Many members suggested "Akita Rescue". That's called "a fact". nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #356

No, she chose NOT to allow Yoshi to be fostered to a home that would tend to his medical issues. bettyellen Aug 2015 #338

TTW's own emotional needs don't count? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #355

not more than Moosepoops life, or Yoshi's - both of which she knowingly put in danger this week. bettyellen Aug 2015 #368

She was looking for a place to put Yoshi where she could get him back some day. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #390

I love animals Aerows Aug 2015 #332

Yes, the situation degraded quickly and there were no better options. I do believe Misanthrope would bettyellen Aug 2015 #340

TTW's Terms daredtowork Aug 2015 #320

But she can't meet her own terms gwheezie Aug 2015 #337

These are decisions poverty made daredtowork Aug 2015 #349

I've been homeless gwheezie Aug 2015 #367

I hope things are better for you now. daredtowork Aug 2015 #391

her terms? they put people's lives in danger- period. the alternative was to leave him "dying" in bettyellen Aug 2015 #342

That sounds so much like "personal responsibility" daredtowork Aug 2015 #351

Actually alot of people Texasgal Aug 2015 #358

Yes I've noticed that. Including me. Why are you pointing this out? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #360

when you beg for help- you do not get to set unreasonable terms. real life does not work that way. bettyellen Aug 2015 #364

Neither of us know exactly what TTW told msanthrope's Ex or the Dogwalker daredtowork Aug 2015 #386

I truly think you are wrong. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #373

I agree with that daredtowork Aug 2015 #383

It's a rough situation and I believe that many people did not understand TTW's state. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #388

The dog frightened her EX. Texasgal Aug 2015 #345

Uh, why are you explaining that to me? daredtowork Aug 2015 #347

You've eluded that's there is Texasgal Aug 2015 #353

I've confirmed that TTW read the forum correctly daredtowork Aug 2015 #387

Far from it gwheezie Aug 2015 #311

I agree daredtowork Aug 2015 #322

I'm all for putting people above dogs Aerows Aug 2015 #324

I agree: I think there can only be a bad outcome to this situation now daredtowork Aug 2015 #328

what really frightens me is her OTT anger and paranoia.- cannot imagine how Yoshi can cope with that bettyellen Aug 2015 #348

Because she was betrayed daredtowork Aug 2015 #359

TTW was not forthcoming about Yoshi being an attack dog. That is a bigger betrayal- to put those bettyellen Aug 2015 #366

hmm perhaps you are confused about the notion of charity daredtowork Aug 2015 #382

But everybody betrays TTW, and maybe that is for a reason? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #374

No, there isn't and wasn't any conspiracy to steal Yoshi. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #371

I didn't say there was a conspiracy to steal Yoshi daredtowork Aug 2015 #389

You did what you could - TBF Aug 2015 #274

That's the long and the short of it......to be fair to TTW, it's incredibly difficult msanthrope Aug 2015 #275

Dumb question. What's transitional housing? Violet_Crumble Aug 2015 #281

It can be many different things.....in this case, someplace for TTW to msanthrope Aug 2015 #285

I totally agree, and you are wonderful patient and perceptive daredtowork Aug 2015 #298

You raise interesting questions. I'm not sure there are right answers. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #341

I'm humbled by your generosity and kindness. Thank you!!! Oneironaut Aug 2015 #279

Per your latest update: I fear this will not end well. MineralMan Aug 2015 #283

Sigh. My heart sank a little when I saw she had reclaimed Yoshi. TDale313 Aug 2015 #287

Yep. Yoshi will suffer because of this decision. Poor thing. Quackers Aug 2015 #294

I have no way of knowing ttw gwheezie Aug 2015 #288

Sigh... you are a mensch. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #297

hugs to everyone involved elehhhhna Aug 2015 #327

Wow, this thing went off the charts on the Nutsotometer Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #325

As someone with two brothers who are mentally ill and have to take meds KittyWampus Aug 2015 #330

very overly sensitive Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #352

Yeah, me too, been there multiple times. bravenak Aug 2015 #380

Bravenak is right irisblue Aug 2015 #384

Looks like all the people piling on SheilaT woolldog Aug 2015 #333

SheilaT was unkind in her responses curlyred Aug 2015 #344

According to what standard? Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #354

Wow, ok. you should try reading them again then. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #361

You only have 88 posts daredtowork Aug 2015 #362

You notice that too? SMH Person 2713 Aug 2015 #372

What does that have to do with anything? Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #385

She was spot on in her analysis woolldog Aug 2015 #363

No she was not. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #365

She correctly argued woolldog Aug 2015 #370

Look. We all KNEW that TTW had some mental health issues going on,which were complicating the Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #376

That was her reaction to finding her dog had been taken away daredtowork Aug 2015 #392

NO ONE OWES HER AN APOLOGY. She was horrible in her statements. MEAN!!! trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #377

She certainly will not get one from me! Texasgal Aug 2015 #379

She didn't believe the dog even existed without a picture when this post started! Person 2713 Aug 2015 #381

You went above and beyond and should be thanked and blessed emsimon33 Aug 2015 #369