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113. I am still hoping that yes, we can complain about Democrats, but that we can start a debate
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

Yes, during the primaries some of us form a "groupthink." If you disagree with a candidate or, worse, raise a provocative question - that could be raised by the media - your are a troll, and worse.

We all learn from debates. This is why some wish for Biden to join the debate to really force Hillary to address many issues.

When people here succeed in hiding posts of their opponents, even complain enough to put an account of hold - what exactly do they achieve? Do they think that when they canvass for their candidate they would be able to do the same?

Yes, candidates have their groups on DU, but the GD: primaries should be open to honest debate.

I think that if someone truly is anti-Democratic party and Democrats they would eventually be terminated. But to prohibit honest debates will lead people for a great disappointment. Look at Karl Rove on election day at Fox.

This is a debating place and people should rebut and debate instead of just alerting.

Oh, and I wish that jurors, once they agree to serve, would provide explanation to their decision.


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America isn't the same place it was in 2001, if only we could learn . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #1
That was me, WillyT. MineralMan Aug 2015 #2
Lovely post. mahina Aug 2015 #44
Good point, that Hekate Aug 2015 #83
Hey, I'm so old ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #3
I have fond memories of those days. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #4
That WAS a great time, wasn't it? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #8
It is a distant memory. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #11
Oh, I have few complaints ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #12
Yeah it's depressing--well kind of ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #15
That must have been a truly frightening time for you ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #53
Srsly. yowzayowzayowza Aug 2015 #76
Hey Aloha, yowzayowazyowza! "It's not like you're ever gunna need their support for anything".. Cha Aug 2015 #81
Hey, hey. yowzayowzayowza Aug 2015 #110
I am pretty new here. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #39
Nailed it... SidDithers Aug 2015 #9
Joined in 2004, I felt at home with fellow Dems. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #35
I hear ya. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #50
The place changed when we elected a Raine1967 Aug 2015 #54
I think the place changed when ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #58
I am still hoping that yes, we can complain about Democrats, but that we can start a debate question everything Aug 2015 #113
I think it changed during that primary - it became significantly vitriolic and toxic in the lead-up DrDan Aug 2015 #91
. George II Aug 2015 #36
That was a great song! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #101
Wow. That must have been when they have 5 cent coca cola BainsBane Aug 2015 #46
Hell, I remember when it was actually an "underground," in terms of non-mainstream thought villager Aug 2015 #78
DU was "underground" specifically in reference to BushCheney, as per Skinner in Ask the Admins... Hekate Aug 2015 #84
Yes! So much this! nt Skidmore Aug 2015 #92
It's not a question of whether Democrats are the enemy, but rather "enablers" villager Aug 2015 #111
Feel free to start your own website Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #5
Those days were heavy with Democrats. onehandle Aug 2015 #6
I'm with you Bro, everyone was above average in 2001. XRubicon Aug 2015 #7
Sounds like Lake Woebegone. nt elias49 Aug 2015 #10
I wouldn't say that "everyone agreed" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #13
We used to have a common enemy (bush/cheney). Now we have each other. calimary Aug 2015 #41
Precisely. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #47
While I didn't join H2O Man Aug 2015 #14
Yeah I was 2004 ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #16
Long gone and not likely to return. okasha Aug 2015 #19
That was a time when Greens could be found on DU ... and HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #25
Although DU was posting my articles on the Home Page ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #33
"somebody" has been saying that tired meme *SINCE* 2001. UTUSN Aug 2015 #17
What? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #21
"We're Democrats ..." NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #22
However, you aren't talking about me, so .... n/t UTUSN Aug 2015 #24
No, I wasn't talking about you. n/t NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #26
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #59
You conveniently left out ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #61
I just posted the entire front page. including the "greatest" section. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #62
Oh, right ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #64
You said that the DU home page "has nothing but anti-Obama, anti-Dem rhetoric day after day" Scootaloo Aug 2015 #65
Look, sweetie ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #66
Your claim was false, NanceGreggs. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #69
Okay. Fine. What ev. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #71
Have a pleasant evening n/t Scootaloo Aug 2015 #72
Your post of a random front page doesn't disprove her point at all. She's taking the larger view, pnwmom Aug 2015 #86
Seems your getting replies here which proves your point in post 33. oasis Aug 2015 #75
Give it up, Scootaloo artislife Aug 2015 #68
It's not a false claim. blue neen Aug 2015 #77
Actually, Scoots, Nance happens to be right. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #112
Exactly: 'Not. One. Single. Thing.' n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #63
Oh I shouldn't have posted here forgot that I'm one of the "pissants" in your (OP) other thread. n/t UTUSN Aug 2015 #23
replying to yourself again? Skittles Aug 2015 #80
I miss the Top 10 Conservative Idiots list. It's what brought me to DU. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #18
OMG I know right? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #20
Me too. zappaman Aug 2015 #28
These days ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #48
a lot of conservative idiots are du members Doctor_J Aug 2015 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Aug 2015 #108
it was a liberal site back in the day. now we have many staunch defenders of Doctor_J Aug 2015 #27
It's a vocal minority Hydra Aug 2015 #29
Don't remember any "Bush supporters" here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #43
Hi Nance Hydra Aug 2015 #51
Yep. blue neen Aug 2015 #52
"These posters are taking over the site ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #55
They'll be pretty bored. blue neen Aug 2015 #57
" I sure do miss the days, though, when we could come here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #73
They'l turn on each other BainsBane Aug 2015 #70
You're right, of course. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #74
true that. The conservatives used to go away quickly Doctor_J Aug 2015 #97
As well as loud and proud non-Democrats ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #32
I also believe we can be more civil. lovemydog Aug 2015 #90
Not to mention all the screaming and witch hunting arikara Aug 2015 #37
We have people claiming to be "progressive" BainsBane Aug 2015 #49
and those claiming to be democrats who agree with republicans on long lists of issues Doctor_J Aug 2015 #98
Sure seems like old times to me pintobean Aug 2015 #30
You are right back then DU had actual Democrats that weren't throwing the Democratic party under William769 Aug 2015 #31
Boom! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #40
Back atcha sheshe. William769 Aug 2015 #42
Hey.... sheshe2 Aug 2015 #45
In 2001, people didn't post as many drive-by OPs. DanTex Aug 2015 #34
I remember major arguments in 2001 Frances Aug 2015 #38
I wasn't here in '01 laundry_queen Aug 2015 #56
I think the difference, in part is the all the Non-Democrats ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #60
You mean the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #102
I think they should losen up the 'breaking news' time stamp rules & allow 3 days instead of 12 hours Sunlei Aug 2015 #67
I liked it better before the Tiger Beat clubs were formed Skittles Aug 2015 #79
+1,000,000 Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #82
cowards who cannot tolerate any dissent - on a Democratic board Skittles Aug 2015 #85
You got THAT right ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #87
I have to agree with this. cwydro Aug 2015 #88
They are entertaining, though... Violet_Crumble Aug 2015 #95
Thanks for this comment Violet_Crumble! haikugal Aug 2015 #104
the tears of the swooners and canadiens sweeten my coffee KG Aug 2015 #106
not even close DrDan Aug 2015 #89
DU is different today than it was when I joined in 2011. We was all about Democrats getting elected Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #93
George W Bush was President in 2001. Thankfully, DU and America are no longer in that tainted Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #94
Hell, it isn't even the DU of '08 Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #96
People like to complain more on DU3 about other posters and not talk about issues. Rex Aug 2015 #99
True that liberal N proud Aug 2015 #103
What was once alternative is missed when it becomes mainstream. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #105
When I first started here. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #107
How is this NOT another vitrolic meta post? randome Aug 2015 #109
very sorry locking by host consensus azurnoir Aug 2015 #114
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