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MineralMan

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Sat May 19, 2012, 01:46 PM May 2012

Facts are difficult to come by in the Trayvon Martin Case, and [View all]

have been from the start. At the beginning of the case, there was incredibly little information that could be confirmed. Both news sources and others tended to fill in the gaps with suppositions and theories, which ran the gamut from likely to bizarre and unlikely.

Most people formed opinions regarding the case and took definite sides in the matter. Once that happens, it becomes difficult to deal with new information that emerges about the case. Even now, we are hearing conflicting stories about different aspects of what happened. Some facts are clear; others are far from clear.

So, what to do about forming a solid opinion of what charges are correct and what charges may not be correct? Personally, I'm waiting for the trial. I have the opinion that Zimmerman made very serious errors in judgment then ended with a teenager's death. I believe he is culpable in that death, since not doing several of the things he did would have prevented it. I'm of the opinion that Trayvon Martin was on an innocent personal errand, and was confronted by Zimmerman. He may have reacted to that with violence in defense of himself.

What will the jury rule? I do not know. I know that they're going to hear what happened, as best as it can be recounted, and then they're going to decide. At the same time, we'll have a chance to see information presented in one place and in some sort of order. So, we'll all have some additional information, and may discover that some of the things we thought were facts were not facts at all.

Then, I'll be able to form a more solid opinion. Then, I'll be able to comment in a rational way. Right now? I don't have all the facts clearly laid out and without interpretation. Then, I will.

After the trial, I'll be ready to comment on this case and say what I think. I'm just not sure enough of what happened, in detail, to say that much at this point. George Zimmerman is responsible for shooting Trayvon Martin. That I'm sure of. The rest? Not so much.

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What sickens me is how much money is being sent to Zimmerman 99th_Monkey May 2012 #1
I'm not following it all that closely, so that isn't information MineralMan May 2012 #2
Actually, I was wrong about the amount 99th_Monkey May 2012 #17
Yes, well... MineralMan May 2012 #20
new info. it is over $215,000 in all. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #25
Zimmerman isn't some "well-connected" anything. MineralMan May 2012 #3
Huh? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #15
Actually, you are assuming that his father was MineralMan May 2012 #19
A fair inference I think Voice for Peace May 2012 #30
"That's why fish keep spawning even when their offspring have three heads" MineralMan May 2012 #34
I'm not good at analogies off the cuff Voice for Peace May 2012 #35
What you're seeing is biology at work. MineralMan May 2012 #39
I think anthropomorphizing is part of my survival mechanism Voice for Peace May 2012 #40
From our brains. MineralMan May 2012 #41
thanks! Voice for Peace May 2012 #42
Robert Z completed a 4 day training course to be a magistrate in Virginia Kaleva May 2012 #37
As I recall, his counsel is not accepting compensation. elleng May 2012 #11
Why are you deliberately downplaying this? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #16
I don't see it as being downplayed. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #18
Thanks, Oce! elleng May 2012 #22
To be a magistrate in Virginia, one isn't required to have knowledge of criminal law. Kaleva May 2012 #38
Try the facts: He was a magistrate in VIRGINIA. elleng May 2012 #21
I stand corrected. Thanks for the additional info. ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #27
You're welcome, 99th. elleng May 2012 #29
Actually I am more interested to see what the FBI is going to do. Rex May 2012 #4
Yes, that, too. They're not saying much, MineralMan May 2012 #7
Yes and the fact they are not saying anything Rex May 2012 #13
If they follow the usual course, they won't MineralMan May 2012 #23
Yes I am expecting a lot more fireworks after the local trial. Rex May 2012 #32
An acquaintance of mine The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #5
We have some facts and some non-facts. MineralMan May 2012 #10
PUBLIC information may have been difficult to come by, elleng May 2012 #6
Yup. Well, it will be presented at the trial in an order MineralMan May 2012 #8
Yes, indeed. elleng May 2012 #9
Yes. And the prosecutor will be very, very careful The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #12
All of those things will be part of the trial argument. MineralMan May 2012 #14
It seems to me that they (Zimmerman's legal team) are doing so much leaking... cynatnite May 2012 #24
Lot of ignoring of facts here for some reason NNN0LHI May 2012 #26
YES. And if it had been a police officer who shot Martin, there'd have been more of an investigation MH1 May 2012 #36
We know this, that had there been no public outcry, this case would never have gone to sabrina 1 May 2012 #28
+1 ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #33
Someone on another thread linked a raft of documents from the case. Fact is, the media HiPointDem May 2012 #31
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