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The Velveteen Ocelot

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5. An acquaintance of mine
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:03 PM
May 2012

who is, shall we say, a gun enthusiast, was going on about just the other day how Martin was an enormous kid and a "gang-banger" who got himself justifiably shot because he was beating the crap out of Zimmerman, and that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should just STFU.

I pointed out that the discovery materials that had just been released (including the autopsy report) showed that Martin was 5"11" and 158 lbs. (not exactly enormous), and that his only injury other than the gunshot wound was a small abrasion on his left ring finger (not the knuckles), which is inconsistent with the results of beating the crap out of somebody. I also told him that Martin had no criminal record and had not been a member of a gang, and that his only known infraction was a suspension from his high school (where he was a good student with high grades) because he was found with an empty plastic bag that had apparently contained pot. I told him these were established facts, not the opinions of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, and he should check it out himself, from a source other than Fox News.

*silence* Then...

"Well, I guess we're just going to have to wait for the results of the trial, I mean we really don't have all the facts yet, do we...?"

I said, we do have some of the facts. Check 'em out.

I guess folks don't always like facts unless they support what they already believed to be true.



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What sickens me is how much money is being sent to Zimmerman 99th_Monkey May 2012 #1
I'm not following it all that closely, so that isn't information MineralMan May 2012 #2
Actually, I was wrong about the amount 99th_Monkey May 2012 #17
Yes, well... MineralMan May 2012 #20
new info. it is over $215,000 in all. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #25
Zimmerman isn't some "well-connected" anything. MineralMan May 2012 #3
Huh? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #15
Actually, you are assuming that his father was MineralMan May 2012 #19
A fair inference I think Voice for Peace May 2012 #30
"That's why fish keep spawning even when their offspring have three heads" MineralMan May 2012 #34
I'm not good at analogies off the cuff Voice for Peace May 2012 #35
What you're seeing is biology at work. MineralMan May 2012 #39
I think anthropomorphizing is part of my survival mechanism Voice for Peace May 2012 #40
From our brains. MineralMan May 2012 #41
thanks! Voice for Peace May 2012 #42
Robert Z completed a 4 day training course to be a magistrate in Virginia Kaleva May 2012 #37
As I recall, his counsel is not accepting compensation. elleng May 2012 #11
Why are you deliberately downplaying this? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #16
I don't see it as being downplayed. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #18
Thanks, Oce! elleng May 2012 #22
To be a magistrate in Virginia, one isn't required to have knowledge of criminal law. Kaleva May 2012 #38
Try the facts: He was a magistrate in VIRGINIA. elleng May 2012 #21
I stand corrected. Thanks for the additional info. ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #27
You're welcome, 99th. elleng May 2012 #29
Actually I am more interested to see what the FBI is going to do. Rex May 2012 #4
Yes, that, too. They're not saying much, MineralMan May 2012 #7
Yes and the fact they are not saying anything Rex May 2012 #13
If they follow the usual course, they won't MineralMan May 2012 #23
Yes I am expecting a lot more fireworks after the local trial. Rex May 2012 #32
An acquaintance of mine The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #5
We have some facts and some non-facts. MineralMan May 2012 #10
PUBLIC information may have been difficult to come by, elleng May 2012 #6
Yup. Well, it will be presented at the trial in an order MineralMan May 2012 #8
Yes, indeed. elleng May 2012 #9
Yes. And the prosecutor will be very, very careful The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #12
All of those things will be part of the trial argument. MineralMan May 2012 #14
It seems to me that they (Zimmerman's legal team) are doing so much leaking... cynatnite May 2012 #24
Lot of ignoring of facts here for some reason NNN0LHI May 2012 #26
YES. And if it had been a police officer who shot Martin, there'd have been more of an investigation MH1 May 2012 #36
We know this, that had there been no public outcry, this case would never have gone to sabrina 1 May 2012 #28
+1 ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #33
Someone on another thread linked a raft of documents from the case. Fact is, the media HiPointDem May 2012 #31
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