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The Velveteen Ocelot

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12. Yes. And the prosecutor will be very, very careful

Sat May 19, 2012, 03:16 PM

May 2012

since this case is so controversial and high-profile. I have to surmise they have evidence we haven't seen yet that supports Zimmerman's guilt, even under FL's stupid "stand your ground" law (at this stage they only have to disclose Brady evidence, which is evidence that could be exculpatory).

The stickier wicket, I think, is how the law was intended to be applied: If you instigate a confrontation that causes the other person to fight back so you now fear for your safety, is it still OK to shoot him? Does the person you started the fight with also have the right to stand his ground? If Martin had been armed would he have been justified in shooting Zimmerman at some point?

This will not be resolved easily or soon; even if Zimmerman is convicted there will certainly be an appeal.

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Facts are difficult to come by in the Trayvon Martin Case, and [View all] MineralMan May 2012 OP

What sickens me is how much money is being sent to Zimmerman 99th_Monkey May 2012 #1

I'm not following it all that closely, so that isn't information MineralMan May 2012 #2

Actually, I was wrong about the amount 99th_Monkey May 2012 #17

Yes, well... MineralMan May 2012 #20

new info. it is over $215,000 in all. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #25

Zimmerman isn't some "well-connected" anything. MineralMan May 2012 #3

Huh? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #15

Actually, you are assuming that his father was MineralMan May 2012 #19

A fair inference I think Voice for Peace May 2012 #30

"That's why fish keep spawning even when their offspring have three heads" MineralMan May 2012 #34

I'm not good at analogies off the cuff Voice for Peace May 2012 #35

What you're seeing is biology at work. MineralMan May 2012 #39

I think anthropomorphizing is part of my survival mechanism Voice for Peace May 2012 #40

From our brains. MineralMan May 2012 #41

thanks! Voice for Peace May 2012 #42

Robert Z completed a 4 day training course to be a magistrate in Virginia Kaleva May 2012 #37

As I recall, his counsel is not accepting compensation. elleng May 2012 #11

Why are you deliberately downplaying this? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #16

I don't see it as being downplayed. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #18

Thanks, Oce! elleng May 2012 #22

To be a magistrate in Virginia, one isn't required to have knowledge of criminal law. Kaleva May 2012 #38

Try the facts: He was a magistrate in VIRGINIA. elleng May 2012 #21

I stand corrected. Thanks for the additional info. ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #27

You're welcome, 99th. elleng May 2012 #29

Actually I am more interested to see what the FBI is going to do. Rex May 2012 #4

Yes, that, too. They're not saying much, MineralMan May 2012 #7

Yes and the fact they are not saying anything Rex May 2012 #13

If they follow the usual course, they won't MineralMan May 2012 #23

Yes I am expecting a lot more fireworks after the local trial. Rex May 2012 #32

An acquaintance of mine The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #5

We have some facts and some non-facts. MineralMan May 2012 #10

PUBLIC information may have been difficult to come by, elleng May 2012 #6

Yup. Well, it will be presented at the trial in an order MineralMan May 2012 #8

Yes, indeed. elleng May 2012 #9

Yes. And the prosecutor will be very, very careful The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #12

All of those things will be part of the trial argument. MineralMan May 2012 #14

It seems to me that they (Zimmerman's legal team) are doing so much leaking... cynatnite May 2012 #24

Lot of ignoring of facts here for some reason NNN0LHI May 2012 #26

YES. And if it had been a police officer who shot Martin, there'd have been more of an investigation MH1 May 2012 #36

We know this, that had there been no public outcry, this case would never have gone to sabrina 1 May 2012 #28

+1 ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #33

Someone on another thread linked a raft of documents from the case. Fact is, the media HiPointDem May 2012 #31