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In reply to the discussion: "I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae? [View all]Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)50. food for thought - a quote she posted on her FB
Here is a quote she has as one of her photos and she posted it June 24. I am trying to absorb this quote, the context of the original author and sentiment of those sharing it currently. But I thought it might offer a glimmer into her mindset (her very young mindset, from photos and observation she was in high school just a few years ago).
The quote is from James Baldwin from an article in Esquire in the July 1960 issue and re-run in 2007:
Northerners indulge in an extremely dangerous luxury. They seem to feel that because they fought on the right side during the Civil War, and won, that they have earned the right merely to deplore what is going on in the South, without taking any responsibility for it; and that they can ignore what is happening in Northern cities because what is happening in Little Rock or Birmingham is worse. Well, in the first place, it is not possible for anyone who has not endured both to know which is "worse." I know Negroes who prefer the South and white Southerners, because "At least there, you haven't got to play any guessing games!" The guessing games referred to have driven more than one Negro into the narcotics ward, the madhouse, or the river.
So my take is this - that those of us whites who say that we "get it" will rarely be just accepted as having "gotten it", that we are indeed not only part of the problem, but that we are more responsible than the actual overt, open racists.
That we are more responsible because we are silently complicit in the racist system, and benefitting from the racist system, all the while feeling smug about our "liberal" credentials and being the ones not only saying we have black friends, but actually having black friends, whether we admit it or not we have a benevolent arrogance about us that we "get it" while not admitting that we are all being so passive, without digging in the back-breaking ditch of making drastic changes -- and this smugness is what does more harm than good. It is more insulting in the long run than the overt racist. And my guess is that occasionally marching/protesting at our convenience is enough to make a dent and bring us street cred as "getting it".
So maybe we should forget about telling anybody that we get it, and just go about the work of fixing the systemic racism, or perhaps we get out of the way until what? I am not sure. I read the demands on the official BLM site, and some of them are the same things everybody would openly want to tackle such as body cams, dash cams, better screening and training of police, stronger auditing, stricter investigations of racial profiling, etc.
The only thing I can say with every earnest feeling from the depths of my heart and mind -- is that I want to get it.
But my problem is my work history and my old Vice President. I like to fix things. My VP had a very long saying and a tough expectation from us all. She would say
Don't come to me with an issue. Don't come to me with an issue and a list of possible solutions. Don't come to me with an issue and an analysis of which solution will work the best. Take the initiative, do not ask permission - come to me only after you have tried two of your best solutions and then show me the data on the incremental changes made with each solution you tried.
But "fixers" like me may be part of the problem. I want to help. I want to march and protest alongside. If I shouldn't want to help, let me know. If I should want to help, but then not help, because helping is less helpful than just supporting from afar, I want to know that too.
[link:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207121360255689&set=a.1074679150513.13056.1332215538&type=3&theater]
link:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207121360255689&set=a.1074679150513.13056.1332215538&type=3&theater
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"I had a Sarah Palin button on backpack" Who is BLMS's Marissa "Johnson" Jenae? [View all]
Blue State Bandit
Aug 2015
OP
Not necessarily. No fundie I've ever met would post "scandalous shit" and "the cross" in the same
merrily
Aug 2015
#320
No, but there's always a question of who, from the other side, finds their way into a movement,
villager
Aug 2015
#29
A minority rights movement usually draws from across the political spectrum, but I'm completely in
Hortensis
Aug 2015
#357
I don't doubt what you are saying, but I need a source better than Facebook or twitter.
still_one
Aug 2015
#178
That's _HER_ facebook. It's her own words. There is no better source than her own words. (nt)
jeff47
Aug 2015
#283
I know. However, I want someone to interview her, and ask her, or a reliable independent source
still_one
Aug 2015
#298
You think that is on equal footing with cable news? Those are church's with choir practice.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Aug 2015
#337
And several replies from Mara Willaford, who shared the stage with her in Seattle. nt
tblue37
Aug 2015
#129
I would not doubt for an instant that it's a shell game. A little misdirection that is the whole
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#48
Oh you bet! Stupid 'gotcha' questions that avoid anything like the real issues.
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#196
At minimum, we know damn well Sanders will get a "why do black people hate you" debate question
arcane1
Aug 2015
#227
It doesnt have to be the politicians it can be the ones who fund them like the Koch brothers
cstanleytech
Aug 2015
#75
There are still a few Repukes that can chew gum and spit at the same time
LiberalLovinLug
Aug 2015
#328
It's a very small minority (myself included) that sees it as dirty tricks
dreamnightwind
Aug 2015
#25
A dirty trick that cost 10K people time, money, the Sander's campaign & Police.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2015
#52
it doesn't have to be like that -wouldn't a religious Sarah Palin fan want to attack liberals?
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#58
She appears to be doing this herself, in the hopes it results in a paying gig. (nt)
jeff47
Aug 2015
#285
Lotta fundies play the "Your liberals arent liberal enough or are the wrong kind of liberal" game
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2015
#113
not sure why you picked my post, in particular, to dredge this thread up.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#365
Because you are sane enough to get exactly what I mean about blacks and slavery and christianity.
bravenak
Nov 2015
#366
I saw that. Both her writing and her actions are ones of hate and anger. And her anger is not just
jwirr
Aug 2015
#156
I'm beginning to believe what I thought was not worth considering, that this could be
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#88
she's not she's a self described "Radical Christian Mullatanist" her Twitter page LSF Thot
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#332
That would explain where and when she learned the tactics used against Sanders. eom
Malraiders
Aug 2015
#13
I suppose that leads to the question. Who is grooming her now since the GOP wouldn't have her?
pa28
Aug 2015
#18
Take as many snapshots and such of the Facebook page. Methinks a large wiping of posts is in the
4lbs
Aug 2015
#31
If you are on a Mac, there's a 'Grab' utility that lets you do screenshots...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#229
My thoughts exacty- for everyone's sake MSM must report on this broadly & Now
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#51
Rachael has not been reporting much on sensitive topics lately. Most coverage is of Conservatives.
glinda
Aug 2015
#83
Rachel is compromised by the network I realize. But this is a truth which caused much
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#97
Could be, he's very bright but limited by the network right now. His plutocrat book received
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#152
I know. It's like 20 Hillary's, 20 Trumps and 5 per Bush/Walker/Rubio to one Bernie name drop since
Blue State Bandit
Aug 2015
#144
There's definitely a Bernie blackout on msnbc now. And Melissa Harris Perry didn't mention
Stardust
Aug 2015
#231
+1,000 Those programs we regularly watch on FSTV (the Free Speech TV Channel) on Dish TV
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#266
Clear from the start that dirty tricks was the reason for the disruptions n/t
brentspeak
Aug 2015
#40
40. Clear from the start that dirty tricks was the reason for the disruptions
AlbertCat
Aug 2015
#276
No, I also don't want BLM to be damaged, this is of much to concen to them I think.
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#148
Seems as if she could have benefitted from Sanders-style economic justice.
WorseBeforeBetter
Aug 2015
#142
Personally, the parents and loved ones of those within the movement. And not an endorsement.
Blue State Bandit
Aug 2015
#130
She is a Republican who is angry about social injustice as it affects black people
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#68
I see where the confusion lies... She must be from the #BlackLivesMatterUnlessTheyAreGay movement
fbc
Aug 2015
#79
Actually, there are a number of LGBT supportive thins posted on her FB page. n/t
Ms. Toad
Aug 2015
#205
Part of the point of BLM is that the Dem Establishment take the black vote for granted
daredtowork
Aug 2015
#82
BLM could affect the race if they can motivate people who don't usually vote in primaries
doxyluv13
Aug 2015
#100
Disingenuous, disruptive SCUM. And if they surface again... should be dealt with as such.
AzDar
Aug 2015
#101
Where's Hillary? She didn't denounce. Are they Fundies, Rogue Feminists, or Operatives?
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2015
#106
This dumbfuck sported a Palin button and expects something other than derision?
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2015
#120
Sure looks like her, and I read in other threads that she's a fundie.
WorseBeforeBetter
Aug 2015
#151
Wow. And what do you suppose constitutes 'the other side' for someone who backs Sarah Palin against
Marr
Aug 2015
#149
Her Point was to get people talking and thinking about Racial Injustice in the System
Heather MC
Aug 2015
#163
It's not her fault people are choosing to focus on unimportant things because they are uncomfortable
Heather MC
Aug 2015
#174
You have a point about the focus on how dangerous it is to be living while black in America.
Ford_Prefect
Aug 2015
#175
Oh well I didn't notice. I just read the post, I never pay attention to who post what.
Heather MC
Aug 2015
#209
Well, how should she behave after seeing body after body of her dead brothas and sistas
Heather MC
Aug 2015
#284
I don't take advice from Sarah Palin fans. Fuck this republican piece of shit.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2015
#253
I just want some solid proof before she and BLM get smeared beyond recognition
Blue_Tires
Aug 2015
#219
It's not too often you see a "FEMINIST" with Thong-wearing TWERKING earrings! nt
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2015
#251
I'll just say that I am VERY suspicious of a group that attacks Bernie with more vigor than
kestrel91316
Aug 2015
#198
"GOP shoulda groomed me right then...now they gotta see me on the other side *shrugs*"
BeanMusical
Aug 2015
#237
I think community service should have been imposed, but she is doing more then that on her own.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
Mar 2016
#381
here's a thought for you. A Christian fundamentalist demanded that a Jew who lost most
cali
Aug 2015
#255
If this self-aggrandizing, bird-brained professional disruptor is "the future"
brentspeak
Aug 2015
#291
Good post, but I do feel she inclines more toward the GOP than not, and even if that s
tblue37
Aug 2015
#304
"The Real Black Lives Matter Wants Activists To Apologize To Senator Sanders"
red dog 1
Aug 2015
#347
Apparently they either feel bad or intimidated and the proof is their use of the word
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#400
Yep, we take issue with one of their OPs we're bad, even if those OPs are race baiting
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#403
Of course, 99.99% of DU swears this never happened, and the OP says he did nothing wrong, so...
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#405
If only Sanders supporters spent their time talking up what they thought was good about Bernie
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#407
If you have a problem w/ this post alert it. Just cause Bill didn't do so well
Blue State Bandit
Apr 2016
#411