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AngryOldDem

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Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:55 PM

Aug 2015

There comes a time when people have to admit that they have done all they can do. And some here have gone above and beyond.

I think the dog is going to have to go if she decides to get any kind of help. She has to take care of herself first before she can take care of anyone or anything else. If that sounds harsh, I'm sorry.

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Is there anyone in the Philidelphia area that can help a DUer find housing for her and large dog? [View all] J_J_ Aug 2015 OP

Have they contacted the Red Cross? shenmue Aug 2015 #1

Good idea catrose Aug 2015 #66

Kicking for TTW and Yoshi. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #2

kick 840high Aug 2015 #3

Have you tried the Pa. group? KamaAina Aug 2015 #4

Ahem....TTW is trying to have me and ex arrested. Yoshi's back at the doggie daycare..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #5

Holy fuck! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Quackers Aug 2015 #7

this is sad, yoshi could have been in a much better place JI7 Aug 2015 #8

Arrested? sigh...this whole thing just sucks. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #9

Clearly the doggie daycare wasn't quite as bad as TTW first suggested. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #77

TTW is actively pursuing this? daredtowork Aug 2015 #10

But would she accept the case management help? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #14

I have no idea what her situation is daredtowork Aug 2015 #15

She had a revealing post several months ago. pnwmom Aug 2015 #120

During that time many people, including me daredtowork Aug 2015 #154

She indicated that people were trying to steer her to mental health facilities, pnwmom Aug 2015 #155

I'm sure she does daredtowork Aug 2015 #156

I keep reading your posts over and over, and I just don't get it. ladyVet Aug 2015 #215

Here is where I think people are confusing me with darkangel daredtowork Aug 2015 #221

The sad fact is TTW has vehemently refused and demonized all those services. Period. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #219

Yes, I know daredtowork Aug 2015 #222

But...if she is not paying the day care bill, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #80

yes in fact it was law enforcement who contacted me.....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #26

I am so sorry, msanthrope... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #40

sigh daredtowork Aug 2015 #83

omg...Sounds like a " No good deed goes unpunished " whathehell Aug 2015 #177

On the bright side, sort of, if she carries on with the threat of arrest perhaps the underahedgerow Aug 2015 #12

It's REALLY hard to get a person involuntarily committed in PA Freddie Aug 2015 #31

A person can be charged with a crime for repeatedly making false accusations, though. yardwork Aug 2015 #70

True it's a lot easier to get arrested than an involuntary comittment Freddie Aug 2015 #93

I guessed right - I thought that's what she would do with him. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #13

Oh, man. Habibi Aug 2015 #17

:( Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #18

Wait...Yoshi is back at the place where TTW was crying at the way he was neglected? cwydro Aug 2015 #21

They are good and decent people..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #25

I hope he can be adopted out to people who will take good care of him. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #46

They seemed like very compassionate people catrose Aug 2015 #50

I think we can assume that info about the doggy daycare came from an unreliable narrator REP Aug 2015 #61

The ex confirmed much of the situation catrose Aug 2015 #67

The same narrator described their former landlady Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #88

I'm a big fan of Nabakov REP Aug 2015 #90

Unfortunately the facilities haven't changed Yoshi and another semi rescue msanthrope Aug 2015 #62

I'm glad for the exercise catrose Aug 2015 #68

But he wasn't being deliberately mistreated or denied water REP Aug 2015 #86

I did not previously share the name of the doggie daycare because I did not believe that they msanthrope Aug 2015 #95

That's what I thought; this isn't a long-term boarding facility REP Aug 2015 #98

I'm amazed they took the dog back. Demit Aug 2015 #113

I believe they have not been paid REP Aug 2015 #115

Oh I agree. But to have not been paid for the first go-round, then to take him back? Demit Aug 2015 #117

I have no idea REP Aug 2015 #119

That absolutely stinks. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #27

Yeah.....ex and me aren't angry, just sad. my dog walker doesn't deserve msanthrope Aug 2015 #28

Well, seems like there's no reason for any of you to be threatened with arrest. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #29

the Leo who reached out to me indicated that TTW msanthrope Aug 2015 #32

Sigh. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #33

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #53

"make money on democratic Underground soliciting donations for him..." alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #35

TTW made over one thousand dollars with this Yoshi crisis. Those who helped most are being accused bettyellen Aug 2015 #185

This is kind of sad to hear. cwydro Aug 2015 #47

the bottom line is is that both TTW and Yoshi still need help. msanthrope Aug 2015 #49

I'm impressed at how generous your heart remains through all of this BainsBane Aug 2015 #63

Thank you. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #65

So sorry this happened to you TuxedoKat Aug 2015 #59

That's pretty rich that she thinks YOU were going to solicit money at DU by using Yoshi. ... Hekate Aug 2015 #71

I'm pretty sure her actions are nearly guaranteed to stop any other offers of help CreekDog Aug 2015 #97

It's not noteworthy to say that I won't be giving TTW any money thanks to this CreekDog Aug 2015 #205

I think she and Yoshi still need help..... and one way to help Yoshi msanthrope Aug 2015 #208

Just a note, the dog daycare is in Frazer, PA (30 mi west of Phila) Demit Aug 2015 #209

What?? Why? Matariki Aug 2015 #38

You know that prospective client.... jberryhill Aug 2015 #81

you think I would have extrapolated that over? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #85

Hah that's hilarious - I have met that client! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #147

Arrested? Based on what ???!!? eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #127

If you DO get arrested or end up in any legal trouble EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2015 #135

I have stayed out of this but I just have to say beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #162

Thank you.....I feel sick every time I think of Yoshi. He had a msanthrope Aug 2015 #167

And we both know what happens to aggressive dogs when they go to the pound. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #168

Oh hell- am so sorry to hear that. As a pet owner- I thank you for reaching out. bettyellen Aug 2015 #191

there is one who says it's available but for some reason refuses to give any info JI7 Aug 2015 #6

Warning: this large dog, an Akita, which is a guard breed, has been aggressive and might be dangerous pnwmom Aug 2015 #11

Are you really that surprised that she is having trouble finding avebury Aug 2015 #16

Having been a passive observer to all this I can only warn Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #19

I'm pretty sure we've never agreed on anything before alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #30

If there is anyone willing to contact the Pennsylvania SPCA mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #20

But even if someone wanted to do that, cwydro Aug 2015 #22

Yes, there are a number of people who have that information. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #24

I can't imagine that this thread will turn out any different that your other OP. MissB Aug 2015 #23

The sad truth is SheilaT Aug 2015 #34

+1 AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #103

Thank you SheilaT. cwydro Aug 2015 #104

She was posting last spring that she was transitioning to a new career -- bartending. pnwmom Aug 2015 #145

I thought she'd said she'd worked as a bartender recently. SheilaT Aug 2015 #148

I hate to say this, but it also might be kindest thing if Yoshi were euthanized. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #201

Dear DU, please stop and consider if you'd be helping or enabling someone KittyWampus Aug 2015 #36

This is so true and I do not think we should throw good money after bad as the saying goes Tipperary Aug 2015 #52

Yup, my experience as well. Agschmid Aug 2015 #54

msanthrope did yeoman's work, but at this point, anything more is likely enabling. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #84

I wish I could help. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #37

I can almost predict how this ends Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #39

Worst outcome avebury Aug 2015 #48

Apparently, TTW doesn't care. cwydro Aug 2015 #109

Worst outcome is that Yoshi hurts someone CreekDog Aug 2015 #207

No, she DOESN'T have the ability to change anything. She's mentally ill. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #60

I know armchair diagnosis is wrong, Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #149

You can dx the depth of b-line pathology gwheezie Aug 2015 #151

One of her posts was very revealing. A case worker sent her to an interview underahedgerow Aug 2015 #152

She lost the goodwill of two people who went out of their way to help her. Demit Aug 2015 #41

My son was having a play date... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #42

Mine also, when he was nine. jen63 Aug 2015 #44

it may be a case of people pushing the dog too far Lordquinton Aug 2015 #74

Well, since he had grown up jen63 Aug 2015 #78

I wasn't speaking to your case specifically Lordquinton Aug 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #122

What kind of person keeps a dog who bites? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #133

The kind of person who immediately blames the victim Mariana Aug 2015 #161

One of the first things kids should know . Do not go to pet an unknown dog or pet without asking and Person 2713 Aug 2015 #159

Socialize your damned dog then. Codeine Aug 2015 #124

It isn't always the dog's fault or the owners dsc Aug 2015 #153

I had a sweet lovely dog who never bothered anyone. cwydro Aug 2015 #172

I love my dog. I love my kid more. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #132

Please edit to say "dog-aggressive" dog. roody Aug 2015 #43

Also aggressive to humans trying to help. Hekate Aug 2015 #72

Well, that seems to apply to both jberryhill Aug 2015 #89

TTW said it was aggressive to the landlord... AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #91

Msanthrope said it was aggressive to her ex who took it into his home, also to other pets. Not Good. Hekate Aug 2015 #110

Sometimes it behooves us to just follow the words of tavernier Aug 2015 #45

You said it right there Tavernier. Nt Tipperary Aug 2015 #51

SheilaT (I think I have the name right) called this Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #55

Thank you. SheilaT Aug 2015 #69

People should take heed of your proffered info. Interesting observation about JJ, too. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #73

It's fun to stir the shit, but not to stick around and smell it, I guess. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #130

One of my comments on those threads bought me a "hide." alphafemale Aug 2015 #118

I completely understand Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #121

And anyone who sent money for this crap Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #56

Panhandling should not be allowed on DU. woolldog Aug 2015 #150

No. Time to cut her loose. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #57

I'll donate to help cover the costs of rescuing and rehoming Yoshi. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #58

JJ, you REALLY should have read Msanthrope's long thread on trying to help TTW and Yoshi Hekate Aug 2015 #64

And now I find myself questioning your motives. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #75

I think it's time these threads were shut down. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #105

Sorry, I only help people who want help. Not radioactive face-huggers. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #76

TTW and Yoshi both need help. nruthie Aug 2015 #82

The definition of insanity Butterbean Aug 2015 #87

A lot of people would really like to help, but I'm afraid dealing with this situation The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #92

My suggestion to anyone who would think of helping with money Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #94

My thinking is REP Aug 2015 #100

But if she succeeds with any criminal charges, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #107

But she's pursuing criminal charges. I'm sure they'll amount to nothing, pnwmom Aug 2015 #157

I don't think there's grounds for any criminal charges REP Aug 2015 #160

IMO, TWW suffers from a Borderline Personality Disorder. You engage with her at your peril. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #96

I've spent my life dealing with tweakers and ex-tweakers. Codeine Aug 2015 #125

Ex and dog walker had a similar perspective after a face to face. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #169

This is exactly what I think too. cwydro Aug 2015 #174

Well, she did mention her anti-anxiety meds. Demit Aug 2015 #178

Yeah, she specifically mentioned a psychiatrist, cwydro Aug 2015 #180

Well REP Aug 2015 #186

Meh. Once a tweaker, always a tweaker. Codeine Aug 2015 #187

Could be. REP Aug 2015 #197

My recollection of TTW's SheilaT Aug 2015 #195

Here's what I was remembering, from the Feb post-- Demit Aug 2015 #203

Thank you. I missed that. SheilaT Aug 2015 #206

I agree. /nt yardwork Aug 2015 #223

Well I'm pretty sure there are people that are in need that won't sue and call the cops on you CreekDog Aug 2015 #99

I would agree that this woman needs help. And she obviously does not care about her dog. Tipperary Aug 2015 #101

I don't think that is true. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #116

This is not true. Texasgal Aug 2015 #136

So was I a fool for sending $ to the gofundme redstateblues Aug 2015 #102

Many of us donated, and she just recently got another grand from DU. cwydro Aug 2015 #106

What cwydro said. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #108

You should not feel bad. alphafemale Aug 2015 #131

This is actually good advice Marrah_G Aug 2015 #165

Just curious: Where is the OP? Off to start a third thread? Hekate Aug 2015 #111

This one doesn't seem to be going as planned, it seems. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #112

Good question Hekate. cwydro Aug 2015 #114

Right? Just here to stir it up. nt TBF Aug 2015 #139

not until this one reaches 300+ posts foo_bar Aug 2015 #158

This isn't the OP's first time on the merry-go-round... SidDithers Aug 2015 #184

it's ridiculous m-lekktor Aug 2015 #190

I was the person who offered a actual room Corgigal Aug 2015 #123

You're a good person who dodged a bullet big-time. Codeine Aug 2015 #126

And isn't this the damn truth Corgigal Aug 2015 #129

I'm so sorry to pecwae Aug 2015 #128

One thing to consider if you had let her stay at your home avebury Aug 2015 #134

And she'd have been the new hated enemy of the moment. alphafemale Aug 2015 #137

I saw that all the time when I was a deputy Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #138

Some people seem to live their whole lives this way. alphafemale Aug 2015 #141

I believe she is a deeply troubled person who actually does love her dog REP Aug 2015 #143

Yes, she loves the dog and she cannot handle the stress. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #166

She does love that dog. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #146

I also offered her a place Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #140

Just so you know you're not alone Corgigal Aug 2015 #142

Watching this fall apart, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #144

The problem is that as long as TTW doesn't deal with the underlining avebury Aug 2015 #171

I know that now. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #211

you too, are a wonderful person. glad it is not for you to deal with though. bettyellen Aug 2015 #193

you are an angel. funny to note self described curmudgeons and misanthropes are so awesome! bettyellen Aug 2015 #192

No angel here. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #213

I am sorry to hear you lost Sugarbear, Corgigal. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #163

Sadly this entire episode will keep some people from ever helping a Duer again Marrah_G Aug 2015 #164

I don't think there's any question of "real needs" here foo_bar Aug 2015 #173

It shouldn't kdmorris Aug 2015 #196

I think that's the best explanation. She seems mentally unstable. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #210

Yes, plus the number of people who were persecuting her grew daily kdmorris Aug 2015 #217

I mentioned this on another thread: reminiscent of DUer bobbolink Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #214

Yes, bobbolink was another example of that type kdmorris Aug 2015 #216

I have never, ever forgotten bobbolink. So many tried direct help as well as advice. Hekate Aug 2015 #218

Did anyone on this thread contact the Pennsylvania SPCA yesterday mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #170

I am really wondering if there is a way we can put appeals for help such as this CTyankee Aug 2015 #175

Great idea, take her dog away from her instead. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #179

She does not have the dog, and she put it in a doggie daycare (again!) cwydro Aug 2015 #181

The dog is fine. It's in a safe, warm location, it's being fed, has plenty underahedgerow Aug 2015 #183

The "damn dog", as you call it cwydro Aug 2015 #188

I know dogs, had them all my life. Show dogs, big dogs, little dogs, feral underahedgerow Aug 2015 #198

I certainly agree with you that something is wrong with her on a very deep level. cwydro Aug 2015 #199

Right there wid ya. It's time to trash the whole topic actually. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author Tipperary Aug 2015 #204

IMHO people are focusing on Yoshi because the solution is evident Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #189

There is nothing funny at all about this situation. Captain Stern Aug 2015 #212

So why did you start this thread? cwydro Aug 2015 #176

Insider experience. Go to craigslist. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #182

There is a common misunderstanding of the concept of "karma" in the west Recursion Aug 2015 #194

I thought this whole saga was a scam from the start. Captain Stern Aug 2015 #202

If people don't want to donate to TTW, ladyVet Aug 2015 #220