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186. Well

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:29 PM

Aug 2015

Having known someone with a severe disorder who tried to self-medicate and also saw a psychiatrist, I've seen how it's like pulling teeth to get that person to get proper treatment, and once they've found a doctor, they can be very leery of "outside" mental health practioners. If a person is still competent, as seems to be the case here (and I mean in the legal sense, not in the "good at getting things done" sense&quot , getting caught up in the System probably sounds like a nightmare.

The symptoms of long-time use of some substances can mimic certain psychiatric disorders, and some psychiatric disorders can be mistaken for substance abuse. I don't know what's the case here, but I do that fixing her life from afar isn't possible. Even up close would require extraordinary measures.

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Is there anyone in the Philidelphia area that can help a DUer find housing for her and large dog? [View all] J_J_ Aug 2015 OP

Have they contacted the Red Cross? shenmue Aug 2015 #1

Good idea catrose Aug 2015 #66

Kicking for TTW and Yoshi. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #2

kick 840high Aug 2015 #3

Have you tried the Pa. group? KamaAina Aug 2015 #4

Ahem....TTW is trying to have me and ex arrested. Yoshi's back at the doggie daycare..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #5

Holy fuck! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Quackers Aug 2015 #7

this is sad, yoshi could have been in a much better place JI7 Aug 2015 #8

Arrested? sigh...this whole thing just sucks. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #9

Clearly the doggie daycare wasn't quite as bad as TTW first suggested. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #77

TTW is actively pursuing this? daredtowork Aug 2015 #10

But would she accept the case management help? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #14

I have no idea what her situation is daredtowork Aug 2015 #15

She had a revealing post several months ago. pnwmom Aug 2015 #120

During that time many people, including me daredtowork Aug 2015 #154

She indicated that people were trying to steer her to mental health facilities, pnwmom Aug 2015 #155

I'm sure she does daredtowork Aug 2015 #156

I keep reading your posts over and over, and I just don't get it. ladyVet Aug 2015 #215

Here is where I think people are confusing me with darkangel daredtowork Aug 2015 #221

The sad fact is TTW has vehemently refused and demonized all those services. Period. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #219

Yes, I know daredtowork Aug 2015 #222

But...if she is not paying the day care bill, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #80

yes in fact it was law enforcement who contacted me.....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #26

I am so sorry, msanthrope... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #40

sigh daredtowork Aug 2015 #83

omg...Sounds like a " No good deed goes unpunished " whathehell Aug 2015 #177

On the bright side, sort of, if she carries on with the threat of arrest perhaps the underahedgerow Aug 2015 #12

It's REALLY hard to get a person involuntarily committed in PA Freddie Aug 2015 #31

A person can be charged with a crime for repeatedly making false accusations, though. yardwork Aug 2015 #70

True it's a lot easier to get arrested than an involuntary comittment Freddie Aug 2015 #93

I guessed right - I thought that's what she would do with him. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #13

Oh, man. Habibi Aug 2015 #17

:( Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #18

Wait...Yoshi is back at the place where TTW was crying at the way he was neglected? cwydro Aug 2015 #21

They are good and decent people..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #25

I hope he can be adopted out to people who will take good care of him. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #46

They seemed like very compassionate people catrose Aug 2015 #50

I think we can assume that info about the doggy daycare came from an unreliable narrator REP Aug 2015 #61

The ex confirmed much of the situation catrose Aug 2015 #67

The same narrator described their former landlady Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #88

I'm a big fan of Nabakov REP Aug 2015 #90

Unfortunately the facilities haven't changed Yoshi and another semi rescue msanthrope Aug 2015 #62

I'm glad for the exercise catrose Aug 2015 #68

But he wasn't being deliberately mistreated or denied water REP Aug 2015 #86

I did not previously share the name of the doggie daycare because I did not believe that they msanthrope Aug 2015 #95

That's what I thought; this isn't a long-term boarding facility REP Aug 2015 #98

I'm amazed they took the dog back. Demit Aug 2015 #113

I believe they have not been paid REP Aug 2015 #115

Oh I agree. But to have not been paid for the first go-round, then to take him back? Demit Aug 2015 #117

I have no idea REP Aug 2015 #119

That absolutely stinks. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #27

Yeah.....ex and me aren't angry, just sad. my dog walker doesn't deserve msanthrope Aug 2015 #28

Well, seems like there's no reason for any of you to be threatened with arrest. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #29

the Leo who reached out to me indicated that TTW msanthrope Aug 2015 #32

Sigh. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #33

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #53

"make money on democratic Underground soliciting donations for him..." alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #35

TTW made over one thousand dollars with this Yoshi crisis. Those who helped most are being accused bettyellen Aug 2015 #185

This is kind of sad to hear. cwydro Aug 2015 #47

the bottom line is is that both TTW and Yoshi still need help. msanthrope Aug 2015 #49

I'm impressed at how generous your heart remains through all of this BainsBane Aug 2015 #63

Thank you. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #65

So sorry this happened to you TuxedoKat Aug 2015 #59

That's pretty rich that she thinks YOU were going to solicit money at DU by using Yoshi. ... Hekate Aug 2015 #71

I'm pretty sure her actions are nearly guaranteed to stop any other offers of help CreekDog Aug 2015 #97

It's not noteworthy to say that I won't be giving TTW any money thanks to this CreekDog Aug 2015 #205

I think she and Yoshi still need help..... and one way to help Yoshi msanthrope Aug 2015 #208

Just a note, the dog daycare is in Frazer, PA (30 mi west of Phila) Demit Aug 2015 #209

What?? Why? Matariki Aug 2015 #38

You know that prospective client.... jberryhill Aug 2015 #81

you think I would have extrapolated that over? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #85

Hah that's hilarious - I have met that client! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #147

Arrested? Based on what ???!!? eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #127

If you DO get arrested or end up in any legal trouble EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2015 #135

I have stayed out of this but I just have to say beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #162

Thank you.....I feel sick every time I think of Yoshi. He had a msanthrope Aug 2015 #167

And we both know what happens to aggressive dogs when they go to the pound. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #168

Oh hell- am so sorry to hear that. As a pet owner- I thank you for reaching out. bettyellen Aug 2015 #191

there is one who says it's available but for some reason refuses to give any info JI7 Aug 2015 #6

Warning: this large dog, an Akita, which is a guard breed, has been aggressive and might be dangerous pnwmom Aug 2015 #11

Are you really that surprised that she is having trouble finding avebury Aug 2015 #16

Having been a passive observer to all this I can only warn Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #19

I'm pretty sure we've never agreed on anything before alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #30

If there is anyone willing to contact the Pennsylvania SPCA mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #20

But even if someone wanted to do that, cwydro Aug 2015 #22

Yes, there are a number of people who have that information. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #24

I can't imagine that this thread will turn out any different that your other OP. MissB Aug 2015 #23

The sad truth is SheilaT Aug 2015 #34

+1 AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #103

Thank you SheilaT. cwydro Aug 2015 #104

She was posting last spring that she was transitioning to a new career -- bartending. pnwmom Aug 2015 #145

I thought she'd said she'd worked as a bartender recently. SheilaT Aug 2015 #148

I hate to say this, but it also might be kindest thing if Yoshi were euthanized. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #201

Dear DU, please stop and consider if you'd be helping or enabling someone KittyWampus Aug 2015 #36

This is so true and I do not think we should throw good money after bad as the saying goes Tipperary Aug 2015 #52

Yup, my experience as well. Agschmid Aug 2015 #54

msanthrope did yeoman's work, but at this point, anything more is likely enabling. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #84

I wish I could help. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #37

I can almost predict how this ends Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #39

Worst outcome avebury Aug 2015 #48

Apparently, TTW doesn't care. cwydro Aug 2015 #109

Worst outcome is that Yoshi hurts someone CreekDog Aug 2015 #207

No, she DOESN'T have the ability to change anything. She's mentally ill. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #60

I know armchair diagnosis is wrong, Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #149

You can dx the depth of b-line pathology gwheezie Aug 2015 #151

One of her posts was very revealing. A case worker sent her to an interview underahedgerow Aug 2015 #152

She lost the goodwill of two people who went out of their way to help her. Demit Aug 2015 #41

My son was having a play date... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #42

Mine also, when he was nine. jen63 Aug 2015 #44

it may be a case of people pushing the dog too far Lordquinton Aug 2015 #74

Well, since he had grown up jen63 Aug 2015 #78

I wasn't speaking to your case specifically Lordquinton Aug 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #122

What kind of person keeps a dog who bites? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #133

The kind of person who immediately blames the victim Mariana Aug 2015 #161

One of the first things kids should know . Do not go to pet an unknown dog or pet without asking and Person 2713 Aug 2015 #159

Socialize your damned dog then. Codeine Aug 2015 #124

It isn't always the dog's fault or the owners dsc Aug 2015 #153

I had a sweet lovely dog who never bothered anyone. cwydro Aug 2015 #172

I love my dog. I love my kid more. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #132

Please edit to say "dog-aggressive" dog. roody Aug 2015 #43

Also aggressive to humans trying to help. Hekate Aug 2015 #72

Well, that seems to apply to both jberryhill Aug 2015 #89

TTW said it was aggressive to the landlord... AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #91

Msanthrope said it was aggressive to her ex who took it into his home, also to other pets. Not Good. Hekate Aug 2015 #110

Sometimes it behooves us to just follow the words of tavernier Aug 2015 #45

You said it right there Tavernier. Nt Tipperary Aug 2015 #51

SheilaT (I think I have the name right) called this Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #55

Thank you. SheilaT Aug 2015 #69

People should take heed of your proffered info. Interesting observation about JJ, too. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #73

It's fun to stir the shit, but not to stick around and smell it, I guess. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #130

One of my comments on those threads bought me a "hide." alphafemale Aug 2015 #118

I completely understand Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #121

And anyone who sent money for this crap Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #56

Panhandling should not be allowed on DU. woolldog Aug 2015 #150

No. Time to cut her loose. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #57

I'll donate to help cover the costs of rescuing and rehoming Yoshi. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #58

JJ, you REALLY should have read Msanthrope's long thread on trying to help TTW and Yoshi Hekate Aug 2015 #64

And now I find myself questioning your motives. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #75

I think it's time these threads were shut down. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #105

Sorry, I only help people who want help. Not radioactive face-huggers. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #76

TTW and Yoshi both need help. nruthie Aug 2015 #82

The definition of insanity Butterbean Aug 2015 #87

A lot of people would really like to help, but I'm afraid dealing with this situation The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #92

My suggestion to anyone who would think of helping with money Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #94

My thinking is REP Aug 2015 #100

But if she succeeds with any criminal charges, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #107

But she's pursuing criminal charges. I'm sure they'll amount to nothing, pnwmom Aug 2015 #157

I don't think there's grounds for any criminal charges REP Aug 2015 #160

IMO, TWW suffers from a Borderline Personality Disorder. You engage with her at your peril. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #96

I've spent my life dealing with tweakers and ex-tweakers. Codeine Aug 2015 #125

Ex and dog walker had a similar perspective after a face to face. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #169

This is exactly what I think too. cwydro Aug 2015 #174

Well, she did mention her anti-anxiety meds. Demit Aug 2015 #178

Yeah, she specifically mentioned a psychiatrist, cwydro Aug 2015 #180

Well REP Aug 2015 #186

Meh. Once a tweaker, always a tweaker. Codeine Aug 2015 #187

Could be. REP Aug 2015 #197

My recollection of TTW's SheilaT Aug 2015 #195

Here's what I was remembering, from the Feb post-- Demit Aug 2015 #203

Thank you. I missed that. SheilaT Aug 2015 #206

I agree. /nt yardwork Aug 2015 #223

Well I'm pretty sure there are people that are in need that won't sue and call the cops on you CreekDog Aug 2015 #99

I would agree that this woman needs help. And she obviously does not care about her dog. Tipperary Aug 2015 #101

I don't think that is true. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #116

This is not true. Texasgal Aug 2015 #136

So was I a fool for sending $ to the gofundme redstateblues Aug 2015 #102

Many of us donated, and she just recently got another grand from DU. cwydro Aug 2015 #106

What cwydro said. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #108

You should not feel bad. alphafemale Aug 2015 #131

This is actually good advice Marrah_G Aug 2015 #165

Just curious: Where is the OP? Off to start a third thread? Hekate Aug 2015 #111

This one doesn't seem to be going as planned, it seems. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #112

Good question Hekate. cwydro Aug 2015 #114

Right? Just here to stir it up. nt TBF Aug 2015 #139

not until this one reaches 300+ posts foo_bar Aug 2015 #158

This isn't the OP's first time on the merry-go-round... SidDithers Aug 2015 #184

it's ridiculous m-lekktor Aug 2015 #190

I was the person who offered a actual room Corgigal Aug 2015 #123

You're a good person who dodged a bullet big-time. Codeine Aug 2015 #126

And isn't this the damn truth Corgigal Aug 2015 #129

I'm so sorry to pecwae Aug 2015 #128

One thing to consider if you had let her stay at your home avebury Aug 2015 #134

And she'd have been the new hated enemy of the moment. alphafemale Aug 2015 #137

I saw that all the time when I was a deputy Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #138

Some people seem to live their whole lives this way. alphafemale Aug 2015 #141

I believe she is a deeply troubled person who actually does love her dog REP Aug 2015 #143

Yes, she loves the dog and she cannot handle the stress. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #166

She does love that dog. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #146

I also offered her a place Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #140

Just so you know you're not alone Corgigal Aug 2015 #142

Watching this fall apart, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #144

The problem is that as long as TTW doesn't deal with the underlining avebury Aug 2015 #171

I know that now. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #211

you too, are a wonderful person. glad it is not for you to deal with though. bettyellen Aug 2015 #193

you are an angel. funny to note self described curmudgeons and misanthropes are so awesome! bettyellen Aug 2015 #192

No angel here. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #213

I am sorry to hear you lost Sugarbear, Corgigal. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #163

Sadly this entire episode will keep some people from ever helping a Duer again Marrah_G Aug 2015 #164

I don't think there's any question of "real needs" here foo_bar Aug 2015 #173

It shouldn't kdmorris Aug 2015 #196

I think that's the best explanation. She seems mentally unstable. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #210

Yes, plus the number of people who were persecuting her grew daily kdmorris Aug 2015 #217

I mentioned this on another thread: reminiscent of DUer bobbolink Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #214

Yes, bobbolink was another example of that type kdmorris Aug 2015 #216

I have never, ever forgotten bobbolink. So many tried direct help as well as advice. Hekate Aug 2015 #218

Did anyone on this thread contact the Pennsylvania SPCA yesterday mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #170

I am really wondering if there is a way we can put appeals for help such as this CTyankee Aug 2015 #175

Great idea, take her dog away from her instead. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #179

She does not have the dog, and she put it in a doggie daycare (again!) cwydro Aug 2015 #181

The dog is fine. It's in a safe, warm location, it's being fed, has plenty underahedgerow Aug 2015 #183

The "damn dog", as you call it cwydro Aug 2015 #188

I know dogs, had them all my life. Show dogs, big dogs, little dogs, feral underahedgerow Aug 2015 #198

I certainly agree with you that something is wrong with her on a very deep level. cwydro Aug 2015 #199

Right there wid ya. It's time to trash the whole topic actually. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author Tipperary Aug 2015 #204

IMHO people are focusing on Yoshi because the solution is evident Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #189

There is nothing funny at all about this situation. Captain Stern Aug 2015 #212

So why did you start this thread? cwydro Aug 2015 #176

Insider experience. Go to craigslist. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #182

There is a common misunderstanding of the concept of "karma" in the west Recursion Aug 2015 #194

I thought this whole saga was a scam from the start. Captain Stern Aug 2015 #202

If people don't want to donate to TTW, ladyVet Aug 2015 #220