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25. Dispatcher should have instructed Z

Sun May 20, 2012, 12:51 AM

May 2012

I agree that this sounds more like advice. At least it seems to have been taken that way . . . if it mattered at all to Z. What Zimmerman obviously needed in this situation was direct instruction to break off his pursuit.

Think of the cliche: "tell it to him/me like he/I was a 5 year old."

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Trayvon Martin ran from George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman ran him down. [View all] Egalitariat May 2012 OP

GZ got out of his car armed and pursued Trayvon Martin- after being told not to notadmblnd May 2012 #1

Advised, not directed ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #15

he called the police department and the officer on dispatch said "we don't need you to do that" notadmblnd May 2012 #18

Dispatcher should have instructed Z ashling May 2012 #25

I would concede that it was advice if the instruction came from a 911 dispatch notadmblnd May 2012 #42

I am not trying to defend Z ashling May 2012 #45

The dispatcher was asking Zimmerman to act reasonably. JDPriestly May 2012 #61

Again, you have nothing to indicate it was an officer ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #70

Oh please... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #27

Apples and Oranges ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #49

Here's something that you don't seem to understand GZ did not call 911 he called Sanford PD notadmblnd May 2012 #50

That is the first time I have heard that it was an LEO that Zimmerman spoke to that night before the ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #51

I knew you would come up with something to rationalize and justify it in your mind. notadmblnd May 2012 #56

Have a link to what you posted? ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #59

see post #50 notadmblnd May 2012 #60

If I called 911 about a suspicious person and was asked if I was following them, after responding sabrina 1 May 2012 #57

I think the question will be whether he acted reasonably under the circumstances, JDPriestly May 2012 #63

That should be considered by the jury when assessing his mental state ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #71

Well, the HOA that Zimmerman represented specifically instructs watchmen to not intervene magical thyme May 2012 #62

but why didn't he follow the advice? Blue_Tires May 2012 #65

I've always wondered... If it's a gated community, there is usually a guard at the guard house kayakjohnny May 2012 #2

Only in the high end ones, and Zimmerman's is not ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #16

What do you mean "ran him down"? There are several possible ways of taking that. uppityperson May 2012 #3

Actually, no. There is a very well-understood 'way of taking that'. The Doctor. May 2012 #8

"Ran him down" to me usually means in a vehicle. Why on earth would you feel the need to insult uppityperson May 2012 #12

Nobody knows Peregrine May 2012 #4

His friend on the phone heard it abelenkpe May 2012 #5

actually an eye witness did see two men in a chase magical thyme May 2012 #64

Martin's girlfriend said Martin called her and said he was scared of creepy guy following him. ZombieHorde May 2012 #6

you tell us...is it? Blue_Tires May 2012 #7

"These assholes always get away." - George Zimmerman n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #9

He had to run him down. He was standing his ground. Why do you hate America? Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #10

He won' t fry malaise May 2012 #37

I know...what I've said consistently is that he's gonna walk. Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #43

I don't think he'll walk malaise May 2012 #44

Here is the underlying issue that concerns me... Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #55

Excellent point malaise May 2012 #69

A witness said there was a chase with one person about 10 feet behind the other Quixote1818 May 2012 #11

What The Fuck is a "Whiteness?" (edited) Skip Intro May 2012 #21

I've not read that witness statement Youngat50 May 2012 #26

So do you think Zimmerman's story lacks credibility too? Quixote1818 May 2012 #28

The "source" said... Youngat50 May 2012 #34

The fact is we don't know who started the fight but we do know Quixote1818 May 2012 #47

Your argument is based on reasonable person concept ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #53

You "wonder about the intelligence of" Tray's girlfriend? Good grief and good bye. uppityperson May 2012 #52

A person with 17 posts to their handle... 99Forever May 2012 #54

She will be cross-examined, and the jury will decide her credibility. JDPriestly May 2012 #67

Zimmerman's claim of Martin circling his car makes no sense magical thyme May 2012 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Quixote1818 May 2012 #28

So you joined DU just to say this? Interesting. Lilyeye May 2012 #31

Actually, no. Youngat50 May 2012 #35

"the guy following him" alphafemale May 2012 #33

Because Stand Your Ground doesn't allow for that. Youngat50 May 2012 #36

So you would not be scared to death by some big guy coming after you at night if you were 17? Quixote1818 May 2012 #46

What makes you think she didn't say something? lunatica May 2012 #38

This is uninformed just plain stupid jibberish cr8tvlde May 2012 #58

I suspect that she did not come forward because she was 16 years old JDPriestly May 2012 #66

right shimonitanegi May 2012 #13

He had such a huge issue with black kids... Youngat50 May 2012 #41

This entire episode was instigated by one person bupkus May 2012 #14

Morally of course. Legally is TBD and there is a lot of fuzz on it. ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #17

Hot damn, thanks for coming forward. flvegan May 2012 #20

Case closed is based on a grown man armed with a 9 mm pistol bupkus May 2012 #39

We don't know if that is right, or if what Zimmerman says, Skip Intro May 2012 #19

Which of Zimmerman's several versions are we supposed to believe? Fumesucker May 2012 #22

I was only aware of one. Has he contradicted himself on what happened? Skip Intro May 2012 #23

This goes into some detail Quixote1818 May 2012 #24

Let's see. One had a gun and the other had Skittles. Wonder who was the intimidater. Lint Head May 2012 #32

Why of course the one with Skittles LiberalFighter May 2012 #40

Yes - it's not against the law to run from another citizen Taverner May 2012 #48