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In reply to the discussion: I am not amused. [View all]

DirkGently

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36. I am increasingly amused by the Trump "candidacy!"
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:51 AM
Aug 2015

Trump is

a) Not going to be President

b) A continuing problem for the Republicans, far more than he is for Dems.

Look at what he's doing here.

He's pointing out that he's a "donor," who has actually written checks to these people (and "our" people). So Republicans have a philosophical problem right off the bat. In GOP-world, the rich are *supposed* to make all the decisions. They are our betters. Witness the group boot-lick when Jamie Dimon went to Congress to explain Chase's crimes. Witness the ludicrously inflated "$10 billion net worth." He's a rockstar to mid-low information Republican voter.

So how can they attack him as illegitimate? Under-qualified? He is everything the Republicans aspire to be: Brash, irrational, dismissive; smug.

They can't come after him. Not hard anyway. Not yet.

Look at his "policy" views as well. He says nasty things, sure. But they're playground taunts, and they play to other problems Republicans have.

On immigration:
The most egregious thing he's said (since being a "birther," anyway) was his attack on Mexican immigrants, calling them "rapists." Horrible, to be sure, but also so gross as to be dismissed by most. AND, what can the Republicans do? They can't attack him too hard, because they all need the base that believes that garbage. And YET, at some point, the big business people can't have illegal immigration restricted *too much,* because they know it actually makes them money.

And we're not building a gigantic wall, or having a business meeting with Mexico or whatever Trump's supposed solution is. It's kiddie talk. Exactly the kind of thing Republicans like to imply, but would never implement. Who would provide the cheap labor on their factory farms?

They're TRAPPED. Trapped with this guy, in a little bitty phonebooth of their own premises and talking points. Did you see their pale, quivering faces at the debate? They're terrified to even criticize him. Lindsey Graham did, and Lindsey's basically gone now.

The man is an idiot, but he's not stupid, if you know what I mean. So the net is that he's throwing out things that make conservatives look moronic, which the business class cannot (but must) refute, that the base loves, but which will NEVER HAPPEN.

On women:
Yes, he says all kinds of nasty names. But did you notice his support of Planned Parenthood? He pointed out abortions are a fraction of what they do in the process. What the hell do Republicans do with that?

Or the fact that he's a relatively recent convert to "Pro-life," who never weighs in on all the insane propositions the Republicans have to actually destroy the right to abortion? When Huckabee and Walker and Rubio start talking their grotesque theories about fetal Constitutional rights being superior to the life of women ... NOTHING from this guy.

He doesn't believe it.

On religion:
I heard a clip yesterday, in which someone brought a copy of Trump's book, "The Art of the Deal" to one of his events. He was thrilled, and started to say something typically smarmy about it being the best book or whatever. Then he stopped himself, and very carefully said it was his "second favorite book." Besides the Bible. (waits for applause). "Because, yeah, nuthin's better n' the Bible. Yeah." (or awkward words to that effect).

Have you ever heard this man quote the Bible?

He is PLAYING THEM. I don't want to speculate as to whether Trump's ego would lead him to actually accept the nomination, although I think it's highly unlikely it gets that far. If he did, though -- yay for us? I've got my eye on Rubio and (blerg) Bush as the likely GOP nominees. Either of them could conceivably be a problem for whoever we nominate.

But Trump? I think every second he is in the spotlight is a win for Dems. He is swinging the Republican base at its nominees like a wrecking ball. He's not even bothering Hillary (She came to my wedding?) or Bernie.

Yes, the man presents himself as an ass. And that part frankly is probably not an act. But "Republican candidate for President?"

He's hurting their brand, mocking their candidates, and taking up nearly all the media coverage, without advancing their cause AT ALL.

As Dems, we could wish for a lot worse.


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I am not amused. [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP
K&R Quackers Aug 2015 #1
I wouldn't count on him imploding. olegramps Aug 2015 #35
I would. Quackers Aug 2015 #45
My fear that the inevitable will only happen after he wins the presidency. olegramps Aug 2015 #48
Yes and he could take the whole country down with him when it happens Person 2713 Aug 2015 #52
Maybe it's time this country grew up and learned what democratic socialism really is passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #100
Sanders can win. He just needs to explain the tricks that the banks and Wall Street JDPriestly Aug 2015 #83
You give way too little credit to the Bush Crime Family. Currently Trump is keeping the rhett o rick Aug 2015 #94
neither am i....k&r... spanone Aug 2015 #2
I'm not amused, but I think he's useful to Democrats electorally. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #3
I am not convinced of that. cali Aug 2015 #4
Neither am I. zeemike Aug 2015 #32
He really is bad for us kenfrequed Aug 2015 #47
This: "...he might actually make truly insane republican bullshit look reasonable by comparison." CrispyQ Aug 2015 #62
^^^ Agreed^^^ kenfrequed Aug 2015 #67
That's been my hypothesis also. Time will tell. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #76
Haha! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #97
Trump makes your entire country look really bad just by his candidacy. Just sayin'. n/t HickFromTheTick Aug 2015 #5
he certainly does. cali Aug 2015 #6
The entire republican party does exactly that.... FarPoint Aug 2015 #7
Sadly, almost half of America doesn't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks, cuz, CrispyQ Aug 2015 #63
Teh Stooopid is heartbreaking, isn't it? I think there's a correlation between valerief Aug 2015 #75
I just don't think he'd be a very good varnisher el_bryanto Aug 2015 #8
lol. yeah, he sucks at vanishing. alas. cali Aug 2015 #10
Okay, we'll get right on that jberryhill Aug 2015 #9
no, but I'd take a voodoo doll with orange hair and some hatpins cali Aug 2015 #13
Trump is the inevitable merger of reality TV and life for many, many people NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #11
Good point! elias49 Aug 2015 #22
I've thought this for years. The IQ of the average American must be in double digits libdem4life Aug 2015 #34
I don't know. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #55
OK, well in your Mom's case, I'll make an exception. For people who watch TV libdem4life Aug 2015 #56
Yep. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #57
Thing is, that if you look closely at the names, they were intended to inform... libdem4life Aug 2015 #58
Hopefully Trump will alienate every available group against the GOP Gothmog Aug 2015 #12
IMO he shows the success of 40 years of GOP attempts to demoralize and turn off the electorate since Hortensis Aug 2015 #14
even worse than that ellennelle Aug 2015 #28
Yes. We may come to be known as the Worst Generation. Still time, and need!, to be great, though. Hortensis Aug 2015 #74
Up to the Republican party and their voters to find Mr. Trump "repulsive". perhaps one of the old Sunlei Aug 2015 #15
Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake. Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #16
+1 Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #19
Exactly! ctsnowman Aug 2015 #37
I think you underestimate the stupidity of the American Right Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #17
These days, impossible. But Big Money will trump, and turn, their stampede toward the cliff. Hortensis Aug 2015 #23
no. I'd bet my last cent that he'll be done by November. cali Aug 2015 #24
I think you made a good point. The anti-intellectuals that dominate the far right AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #86
You could be just as right Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #90
He assures a democratic zentrum Aug 2015 #18
Bingo. bullsnarfle Aug 2015 #29
If there were no Trump, would it be necessary to invent him? malthaussen Aug 2015 #20
Yep, he is toxic for the country. Jamastiene Aug 2015 #21
I've owned several JackInGreen Aug 2015 #25
Careful--he'll sue you Orrex Aug 2015 #26
now that's funny cali Aug 2015 #27
The part that worries me is that a lot of people who have never voted before like him. LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #30
Well said. lisby Aug 2015 #31
Seriously? You've been around long enough to know better. Dawgs Aug 2015 #33
I am increasingly amused by the Trump "candidacy!" DirkGently Aug 2015 #36
Is there a Republican candidate who would make you say, Eric J in MN Aug 2015 #38
This is madness Glassunion Aug 2015 #39
Well, I look forward to debates between Trump and Bernie. libdem4life Aug 2015 #40
The world is right to be afraid of America and it's military being one day in fascist hands, guided Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #41
Too true kenfrequed Aug 2015 #42
Ummm, I'm just gonna say it, Darb Aug 2015 #43
not a chance. cali Aug 2015 #46
You are showing a vulnerability. Darb Aug 2015 #50
you're simply naive cali Aug 2015 #65
I think many will agree with you davidpdx Aug 2015 #44
No, not amused, but he represents the heart of what the repubs have become Thekaspervote Aug 2015 #49
Every Republican on that stage was a different shade of stupid. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #51
That's what I was thinking. It's like a strange reality show where participants Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #85
He's chewing up the republican party from the inside. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #53
Name recognition, tv star, millionaire, woman hater, racist, bigot ...what's to stop him? L0oniX Aug 2015 #54
I agree. what worries me is that too many people find him credible. we have seen this niyad Aug 2015 #59
Yes, I want him to go away. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #60
This nation is full of malignant narcissists. Initech Aug 2015 #61
I'm in 100% agreement with you. n/t SpankMe Aug 2015 #64
No thanks, he is causing havoc among the GOP hopefuls. Rex Aug 2015 #66
I disagree Kermitt Gribble Aug 2015 #68
He's basically what Republicans embody d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #69
I think his currecnt success speaks to the problems in our country. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #70
I wanna see him go broke from the attempt. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #71
Every time you say his name his ego gets some wings. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #72
No, no, no! I want him to REALLY unleash his inner psycho lunatica Aug 2015 #73
But the polls, madamesilverspurs Aug 2015 #77
It frightens me to know that the mentality of a large segment of the US public AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #79
It's an obsession with insults and public humiliation as "entertainment" arcane1 Aug 2015 #78
More than that, it also indicates that there are a fair number of unstable people out there, and still_one Aug 2015 #80
i agree with you. nt DesertFlower Aug 2015 #81
I would not count on his imploding that quickly. There is a lot of anger in the country. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #82
+1000s DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #84
True that! Martin Eden Aug 2015 #91
Yes, yes, yes...he is BAD for America. SoapBox Aug 2015 #87
For first time in a long while... K & R +1000!!!!!! TRoN33 Aug 2015 #88
Trump Epitomizes the 'Individualist' swilton Aug 2015 #89
+1!!! The media talks about "how he is sucking all of the oxygen from the room." Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #92
That's exactly what I wanted to say Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #98
We will go in the next few months Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #93
Trump is part of the Oligarch controlled Kabuki theater. When they are finished with him rhett o rick Aug 2015 #95
Even more than that, I'd love it if the assrockets that think he's fabs BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2015 #96
Trump is our society's creation Recursion Aug 2015 #99
"...who embodies the absolute worst things about this country" C Moon Aug 2015 #101
He can vanish after he splits the Republican vote. diane in sf Aug 2015 #102
And the other GOP candidates DON'T make you want to gag? Lodestar Aug 2015 #103
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #104
if Trump is a Republican strategy, There's a Downside NJCher Aug 2015 #105
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