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In reply to the discussion: Context and the Assange case. [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,317 posts)and that it could possibly be a genuine case of sexual assault or rape. It asserts that the accusations are 'completely phony'. It asserts that the women were made to hook up with Assange by an intelligence agency. It dismisses, as a matter of principle, both that the women had any kind of relationship out of their own free will, and that they then had objections to what Assange did.
Assange accepts both that the women started becoming intimate with him freely, and that they now think he did something wrong. His version is that they were willing early on, and that he always gave them adequate opportunity to stop things and that they did not, so were still willing, and later became unhappy with how he had behaved. This would be something to sort out, in court if necessary. He does not need to fantasise about intelligence agencies putting him into a situation where he would start having sex with a sleeping woman. Because that's the heart of the rape accusation, and he admits he did. Which doesn't fit with anyone trying to set him up.
hifiguy cannot conceive of the women actually telling the truth about how they feel, or how they saw the events. He insists they are tools of an intelligence agency. This automatic dismissal of 2 women as liars trying to entrap a man is fundamentally misogynistic. If we saw it claimed on behalf of someone who wasn't admired politically, we'd all see it for the woman-hating bullshit it is.
It's an idiotic conspiracy theory, anyway, because it would be far easier to extradite Assange to the USA if there was no rape accusation. It would be easier still to do it from the UK, again without a rape accusation that gets in the way. But clinging onto a conspiracy theory that doesn't make sense, to dismiss on principle what 2 women say, just makes it worse.