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In reply to the discussion: Context and the Assange case. [View all]AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)You said: "As this link and hundreds more like it show...." and then coninue in your effort to convince me of your position. I went to the ONE site you provided but found only undocumented negative opinions about Assange so very similar to your own.
http://studentactivism.net/2011/07/12/assange-lawyer-concedes/
--- which is the work of Angus Johnston, whose biased and undocumented statements are very similar to yours. Maybe you are him!
Notice your claim that "....this link and hundreds more like it show...." which suggests that they all are saying what you are saying about Assange.
So stevenleser where are these ".... hundreds more like it..." that you refer to? Are they from Faux Noise and their sychophants?
Please, please, please ---stick with documented facts. Go to the Swedish legal documents inadvertently posted by msanthrope, one of the few who are in your camp. She probably didn't read it because the document totally blows away both of your cases against Assange!
But here it is again kiddo, you have one more chance to get it right!
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/world/20110224-Britain-Ruling-Assange-Extradition-to-Sweden.pdf
Read it. Then ask youself the same question asked by the Swedish legal opionions about this case: Why did the female Swedish prosecutor REFUSE to interview Assange while he was in Sweden? She didn't even try! In that document objective analyses by Swedish legal minds state that the prosecutor's lack of action was unfair to the defendant. She also refused to have him interviewed in England. The document stated that this is unusual and unfair. The document also stated that it was wrong and even illegal to publish anything about an alleged sex crime prior to trial.
Get it that the most telling part of this mess is that the prosecutor did not want closure on the Assange case and that's why she refused to interview him. And it went into the newspapers which made worldwide headlines. This is not the way investigations are conducted normally in Sweden. Instead, she let Assange twist in the wind of uncertainty which creates an environment for anyone to project whatever garbage they want to onto Assage. The prosecutor did this on purpose by creating that environment of uncertainty, along with the usually forbidden publicity.
And you don't think she was influenced from some higher ups with connections to Big Money and Big Power?
This kind of purposful negligence is very unfair to ANY person being accused of a crime. And that is said clearly in the legal documents by Swedish legal experts who seem appalled at the way this case has been "mishandled", and I agree with hifiguy that this was done
ON PURPOSE.
The points that hifiguy was making about activists routinely being targeted and hurt in some way in order to deactivate them is TRUE. It has happend thousands of times throughout history and now is an epidemic in many countries including our own. This is just one case and it should be completely obvious to any educated person who has read a lot about political topics, who also happens to have critical thinking skills.
If you read a few dozen pages of WikiLeaks you might be able to understand how angry and embarrassed the 1/10 percenters would become at the worldwide exposure ratting them out about the tricks they played (and continue to play) and how they rig the games in economic and political systems.
If you are unable to detach yourself from preconceived ideas that were fed to you by your associations with authority figures in the past.... then you need to give up trying to debate these issues. The lens of your brain may have hardened into a very narrow focus. It is obvious to me and to others that your "documentation" is not a genuine attempt to get to the truth, it is just another opinion that matches your own, while the actual legal documents have facts that are facts.
Please open up the lens of your mind and stop this shit. It really is irritating me and I have better things to do that talk to a brick wall.