So, what are your plans since the glorious revolution is not coming?

[TheKentuckian]

72. We change or slip into fascism for as long as the Earth can support it until the resources aren't

there and we see massive die off and plunge into darkness for as many generations as the eye can see and in all probability this will be the highwater mark of our race because there will be no "low hanging fruit" resource wise and our race ends where it began on this little dot in the corner suburbs of an unremarkable galaxy trapped like rats incapable of growing beyond rats on a sinking ship.

If we go on like this the big fail and the beginning of the end is at hand. We will have stepped to the edge of the beginnings of our promise and walked away preferring death and regression.

Our time is short-30, 50, or a hundred years we will have dug our hole so deep that the odds of climbing out will be beyond minimal.

What I find interesting is that the status quo and the establishment parties are seen on an infinite time line but any other effort must work as quick as crazy glue sets or they have failed.

The usual refrain of "elect more progressives and liberals" is desirable and laudable but our progress through our present system is making even that goal of working within the system we have is becoming a pipe dream in both possibility and impact if an advance is made.

The game board is increasingly to the advantage of not just the establishment which is deadly enough to the broad prosperity of us "small people" but worse to powerful regressive forces.

We need whatever pressure that can be mounted from outside the establishment and push for and accept any gains that can be consolidated within it while continuously demanding more.

We need more pressure and more types of pressure from outside of the current decision making process, Occupy is not enough. The establishment considers Occupy a hindrance to be eradicated but not a threat. Regressives are motivated by fear and there is little cause for fear, not in a direct sense. They want the populace to be wedged from the movement and resent it following the "don't start nothing won't be nothing" principle.

I support Occupy to the hilt because for whatever faults they have with tactics and structure (and I agree they are there though probably for very different reasons than you) because they have more effectively framed the problems in months than anyone else has over decades and apparently aren't solely focused on some way to prop up the status quo with band-aids, spit, duct tape, and inflating the next bubble for fake growth and the short term illusion of increasing prosperity.

Honestly, I think the focus on the 99% is misplaced though it is a good marketing hook because revolutionary movement be they peaceful or martial can't depend on any such numbers or even a majority because you always have about a third who are willfully compliant slaves to the machine Tory types and you have another third that is between sympathetic and hopeful for the status quo thinking that with a little tinkering that all will be well as it was in some short and exceptional period in the past along with those who accept whatever is.

Radicalizing the 15% that are naturally inclined seems more fundamental and growing to the about 35% that is without much else to lose or can be made to see the coming deadend would be more in line with what I see as natural evolution to build a movement that won't go away and cannot easily be killed.

I also believe that Occupy just in nature cannot be the extreme, there needs to be more envelope pushing groups of a less savory disposition and more radical nature to allow a group like Occupy to be more palatable for the establishment to work with and the vast middle section of the populace to coalesce around and accept.

Sure Occupy has structural concerns and tactics that cannot appeal to most. It is an organization of humans and humans in opposition (out of frustration with real and willful, predatory structural defects that are design to prey on the vast majority be it 80% or 99%) and mass messaging isn't an easy thing to do when the far right controls mass media be it directly like Faux or more subtly in the "liberal media" where by a mix of cuckolding into this state of false neutrality of playing referee rather than fact finding, by acquisition of key holdings, by changing laws, by striping away public funding, by erasing the concept of news as a public service, and importantly defunding actual reporting and investigation in favor of providing essentially entertainment have set up an environment that about the only messages that can appeal to a majority are fear, tax cuts, stroking vanities, and feedback loops on the beltway "common wisdom" which is a bunch of largely demonstrably disproven bullshit about tax cuts, exceptionalism, greed, and fears to distract from pilfering and suicidal avarice.

I've yet to hear a possible, much less a plausible message or tactics that would appeal to the majority and especially the vast majority to affect a fundamental paradigm shift which is substantially different from efforts for inclusion of excepted persons to the existing system.
Both the claim and the critique are nonsensical because it isn't possible at this stage in human development.